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why thank you.liftsiron said:
there is a huge guy at the gym but he is not strong !!
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A lot of people think you have to get strong to get big. When people see me train, it is easy to think I believe that as well as my poundages are on the heavy side.
However, I don't believe in strength training for muscle gains. Nor have I ever gotten size results from it. If I did strength train, I would certainly be a lot stronger than I currently am, but I would also think my physique would be lesser too.
As I said before, I never strive to get more reps, but rather BETTER reps. I am not in there to work with weights, I am in there to make those weights work for me. Some bodyparts such as my chest and biceps only respond to low reps. 5-6 per set. So I have to use a weight that is heavy enough to get what I want out of those 5-6 reps when my muscles fire. For instance, I am at 120lb dumbells on the shoulder press. I need reps in the range of 7-10 for this bodypart. Now, I could easily use more weight or rather, take the 120's and fire them up about 12-13 times. However, I would compromise form then. And when I do that, I suffer the loss of benefits.
On one hand look at powerlifters who primarily train for strength... they do not have the muscle development or seperation that bodybuilders have. Though there are a few exceptions. then look at bodybuilders who train for size and thickness., they are not necessarily the strongest in the gym, though there are excepts to this as well. (Like Ronnie and Mike Franc.)
Overall, I would rather look like I could bench 500 than actually be able to do it.
However, I don't believe in strength training for muscle gains. Nor have I ever gotten size results from it. If I did strength train, I would certainly be a lot stronger than I currently am, but I would also think my physique would be lesser too.
As I said before, I never strive to get more reps, but rather BETTER reps. I am not in there to work with weights, I am in there to make those weights work for me. Some bodyparts such as my chest and biceps only respond to low reps. 5-6 per set. So I have to use a weight that is heavy enough to get what I want out of those 5-6 reps when my muscles fire. For instance, I am at 120lb dumbells on the shoulder press. I need reps in the range of 7-10 for this bodypart. Now, I could easily use more weight or rather, take the 120's and fire them up about 12-13 times. However, I would compromise form then. And when I do that, I suffer the loss of benefits.
On one hand look at powerlifters who primarily train for strength... they do not have the muscle development or seperation that bodybuilders have. Though there are a few exceptions. then look at bodybuilders who train for size and thickness., they are not necessarily the strongest in the gym, though there are excepts to this as well. (Like Ronnie and Mike Franc.)
Overall, I would rather look like I could bench 500 than actually be able to do it.
MsBeverlyHills
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AAP nailed it...training for size is different than training for strength.
its pretty funny that you actually asked this guy how come hes weak for his size...surprised your around to post about it..LOL!
(jsut teasing ya
its pretty funny that you actually asked this guy how come hes weak for his size...surprised your around to post about it..LOL!
(jsut teasing ya
The_Eviscerator
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AAP said:
You just summed it up right there. Too often we get caught up in the "how much do you lift?" mindset, when we should be concentrating on the "what is the quality of your contraction?" approach. I see guys all the time lifting weight with the sloppiest form and their bodies look sloppy. I frequently make the weight I am using as hard to lift as possible by accentuating stretches and making the eccentric portion at least 3-5 seconds. Not only have I become more dense and developed... I avoid the the elbow and tendon injuries related to using excessive poundages.
bigsonrising
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AAP, did you say 120 lb DBs on the military press??
c3bodybuilding
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Right now I am training with more volume, higher reps, and lighter weight. It feels weird at first, but my body is actually responding quicker, than when I train with heavy weight, and low reps.
I think you should have months at a time where you do heavy lifts, and lower reps. Then later use a bit more volume, reps and lighter weight.
I've reached a point where I stopped caring about strength. I've gone as far as I'd like to go there. There comes a point where doing dips with 130lbs around your waist and then getting sore elbows, tendons along with sore pecs isn't fun.
I think you should have months at a time where you do heavy lifts, and lower reps. Then later use a bit more volume, reps and lighter weight.
I've reached a point where I stopped caring about strength. I've gone as far as I'd like to go there. There comes a point where doing dips with 130lbs around your waist and then getting sore elbows, tendons along with sore pecs isn't fun.
little chris
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I have the opposite at my gym. There is a guy in there about 6'2 180lbs ripped and does 140lb d-bell presses, 275lb shoulder presses and over 600lb shrugs. not bad for a skinny guy.
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imagine thatbigsonrising said:
