The truth about orals! Read this!

[chanmanfoo]

i have been saying this for years. i just dont understand the people that say "only run adrol for four weeks" or "dont run dbol longer than six". good post juice.
foo

 

[Dark_Stalker]

Excellent post Juice !

 

[Texas Ranger]

So, orals aren't REALLY that bad, huh? I'd still throw caution to the wind and use ALA and Milk Thistle, but that's just me. If you felt the need to use Orals in conjunction with your injectables for a full cycle. Why not use them in 4-5 week intervals throughout? Just a thought...

 

[McBane]

I question how much of an issue lipid profiles are. I've gone into this in the past so I won't do it now, however, inflammation, oxidation and fibrin are the real "big-hitters" with heart disease and can all be controlled with supplements such as nattokinase, samento, serrapeptase, vitamin c, l-lysine and garlic. There's a few others but this sure is a good start. The bottom line is that you CAN protect yourself.

Hm, I've never really done much research into protecting your lipid profile, wasn't aware there were methods that were that effect (I know there are some prescription meds but usually those have their probs too), besides cardio and lots of EFA's. If you'd care to share with us dosages and supplements you would recommend I'd be very interested in checking them out, as it's my main concern with steroid usage, and should be for most. Also if you got any studies in regards to the supps you listed helping protect lipid profile throw them up, if not, no biggy, just state your opinion on what protocol you would take to protect it and I can do a little searching myself Of course any studies I can find to help corroborate what you say I'll share

 

[TheBigCEE]

Solid Info

Regardless of conclusions or opinion, this is an excellent post!

 

[Baoh]

JA ... alot of the problem I have on running several orals at the same time, is a possible receptor conflict... using one oral and one inject usually works great with me... when I get into several orals at the same time... I find... the effect isn't as strong PER oral as if I had only used one... if that makes sense...

C-ditty

No such thing.

 

[McBane]

Hm, I've never really done much research into protecting your lipid profile, wasn't aware there were methods that were that effect (I know there are some prescription meds but usually those have their probs too), besides cardio and lots of EFA's. If you'd care to share with us dosages and supplements you would recommend I'd be very interested in checking them out, as it's my main concern with steroid usage, and should be for most. Also if you got any studies in regards to the supps you listed helping protect lipid profile throw them up, if not, no biggy, just state your opinion on what protocol you would take to protect it and I can do a little searching myself Of course any studies I can find to help corroborate what you say I'll share

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[Baoh]

Flax oils, fish oils, garlic extract, red rice yeast extract (very effective), and so forth. There are some other nice ones, and I have a feeling that NAC would be beneficial here, too. Also, take a high-dose B-complex.

 

[McBane]

Flax oils, fish oils, garlic extract, red rice yeast extract (very effective), and so forth. There are some other nice ones, and I have a feeling that NAC would be beneficial here, too. Also, take a high-dose B-complex.

Found good stuff basically on olive oil, fish oil, flax seed oil, garlic, vitamin A, C, E, and hypothetically alphalipoic acid (as it increases effectiveness of C&E vitamins), and selenium but couldn't find anything about red rice yeast extract. Is there a different name for it, or is there something in it that is responsible for the effect?

Found good stuff on niacin too which comes as no surprise, but was reading a little bit about its negative effect on liver, couldn't really determine to what degree though.

 

[Baoh]

Found good stuff basically on olive oil, fish oil, flax seed oil, garlic, vitamin A, C, E, and hypothetically alphalipoic acid (as it increases effectiveness of C&E vitamins), and selenium but couldn't find anything about red rice yeast extract. Is there a different name for it, or is there something in it that is responsible for the effect?

Found good stuff on niacin too which comes as no surprise, but was reading a little bit about its negative effect on liver, couldn't really determine to what degree though.

It promotes HMG-CoA reductase inhibition action. If I remember correctly, it's a statin of some kind. I forget which one exactly, though. A search of Pubmed may help you out.