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dr0832
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Why is it a must to have EFA's? Also why do I have to have 20% of my diet from fat? Will I gain no muscle when bulking if I have 5-10% fat in my diet? I am not saying I am going to do this, but I want to know the reasoning. I am healthy and young so I am not gonna worry about the cancer fighting benefits and all that other health bs of EFA's.
Synpax
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Here you go - straight from protein factory's site.
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Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) are fatty acids that the body cannot produce. They are very important for the growth and maintenance of the body's' cells. In Relationship to bodybuilding and muscle growth, EFA's should be consider one of your most important weapons for anabolic condition you can use. Research has proven that a moderate fat diet causes the BEST nitrogen retention. BUT, through fear of getting FAT, EFA's are the least used supplement in the industry. Essential Fatty Acids should take precedence over pro-hormones, creatine, and other "so-called" anabolic supplements. Why? A diet consisting of 30% EFA's can produce a better anabolic effect and higher nitrogen retention, than a high protein low carb low fat diet.
Whether a bodybuilder wants to lose body fat or increase muscle mass the diet should consist of at least 10%-40% fatty acids. How do you know if your getting 30% of your calories from EFA's? If you take in 3,000 calories a day, multiply that # by .30 (that's point 3). Thus 900 of your calories should come from FAT. Divide that # by 9 (Calories per grams of FAT) and you get 100 grams. Hence you should eat 100 grams of fat a day from good sources of fat. Good fats are as follows:
Flax, Olive, Coconut, Canola, CLA, peanut, Fish, Corn, Borage, Sunflower, Safflower, Primose, MCT, macadamia nut, and hemp oil.
BAD FATS: Dairy, Animal, Palm, Fats in butter and margarine, Olestra.
I believe that ECTOMORPH's especially should watch their fat intake. If your complaining your a "hard gainer" and you have a ectomorph frame and your not gaining muscle mass, Definitely increase your fat to a minimum of 30% of your total calories for the day. Ectomorphs are people that are tall and thin, have a hard time putting on weight etc.
One of the most important fatty acids are the omega-3 fatty acids. This fatty acid is anti-lipogenic (block fat storage), anti-catabolic, anti-inflammatory, increase beta oxidation, and improve insulin sensitivity. (REF). Flax Oil is the best source for omega-3's.
For the steroid using athlete whose nitrogen level is already "juiced up". EFA's might not be that important. But for the natural bodybuilder, fatty acids are your best weapon to increase positive nitrogen balance. If you're not getting you're fat, you're making a serious mistake.
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Essential Fatty Acids (EFA's) are fatty acids that the body cannot produce. They are very important for the growth and maintenance of the body's' cells. In Relationship to bodybuilding and muscle growth, EFA's should be consider one of your most important weapons for anabolic condition you can use. Research has proven that a moderate fat diet causes the BEST nitrogen retention. BUT, through fear of getting FAT, EFA's are the least used supplement in the industry. Essential Fatty Acids should take precedence over pro-hormones, creatine, and other "so-called" anabolic supplements. Why? A diet consisting of 30% EFA's can produce a better anabolic effect and higher nitrogen retention, than a high protein low carb low fat diet.
Whether a bodybuilder wants to lose body fat or increase muscle mass the diet should consist of at least 10%-40% fatty acids. How do you know if your getting 30% of your calories from EFA's? If you take in 3,000 calories a day, multiply that # by .30 (that's point 3). Thus 900 of your calories should come from FAT. Divide that # by 9 (Calories per grams of FAT) and you get 100 grams. Hence you should eat 100 grams of fat a day from good sources of fat. Good fats are as follows:
Flax, Olive, Coconut, Canola, CLA, peanut, Fish, Corn, Borage, Sunflower, Safflower, Primose, MCT, macadamia nut, and hemp oil.
BAD FATS: Dairy, Animal, Palm, Fats in butter and margarine, Olestra.
I believe that ECTOMORPH's especially should watch their fat intake. If your complaining your a "hard gainer" and you have a ectomorph frame and your not gaining muscle mass, Definitely increase your fat to a minimum of 30% of your total calories for the day. Ectomorphs are people that are tall and thin, have a hard time putting on weight etc.
One of the most important fatty acids are the omega-3 fatty acids. This fatty acid is anti-lipogenic (block fat storage), anti-catabolic, anti-inflammatory, increase beta oxidation, and improve insulin sensitivity. (REF). Flax Oil is the best source for omega-3's.
For the steroid using athlete whose nitrogen level is already "juiced up". EFA's might not be that important. But for the natural bodybuilder, fatty acids are your best weapon to increase positive nitrogen balance. If you're not getting you're fat, you're making a serious mistake.
obiwan9962
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i suggested a omega369 instead of just fish oil fish mainly contains omega3
6 and 9 have other beneficial properties such as easing depression, skin and hair quality
i am a proponent of eating real foods
such as steak and fish and pork and lamb
yes oatmeal has protien but it is incomplete
you do add the protien powder but would you not relish in biting into a nice thick juicy steak??
and everyone needs veggies
yes you take a multivits
but that is to supplement what you are already getting from real foods
why not add some spinach for more iron selenium and vitA
broccoli for vit B's, A, C, many minerals and other compounds found beneficial in curciferous veggies
as well as onions for blood thinning properties as well as anitox
many other veggies are beneficial
how long do you think you can be on this diet
the boredom alone will drive you off it
if you are determined enough to stay on it
i just say add some variety
confuscius once said "variety is the spice of life"
so are you not spicy?
not trying to be an antagonist
sorry if i seem that way
just wondered how to add variety to what sounds in principle to be a sound way to cut
6 and 9 have other beneficial properties such as easing depression, skin and hair quality
i am a proponent of eating real foods
such as steak and fish and pork and lamb
yes oatmeal has protien but it is incomplete
you do add the protien powder but would you not relish in biting into a nice thick juicy steak??
and everyone needs veggies
yes you take a multivits
but that is to supplement what you are already getting from real foods
why not add some spinach for more iron selenium and vitA
broccoli for vit B's, A, C, many minerals and other compounds found beneficial in curciferous veggies
as well as onions for blood thinning properties as well as anitox
many other veggies are beneficial
how long do you think you can be on this diet
the boredom alone will drive you off it
if you are determined enough to stay on it
i just say add some variety
confuscius once said "variety is the spice of life"
so are you not spicy?
not trying to be an antagonist
sorry if i seem that way
just wondered how to add variety to what sounds in principle to be a sound way to cut
M
Mr.X
Guest
Why is it a must to have EFA's?
health aspect, read above
Also why do I have to have 20% of my diet from fat?
helps w/ testosterone production and helps utilize stored fat as energy (you have to have some fat to burn fat)
Will I gain no muscle when bulking if I have 5-10% fat in my diet?
yes, you will still gain muscle w/ lowfat
I am not saying I am going to do this, but I want to know the reasoning. I am healthy and young so I am not gonna worry about the cancer fighting benefits and all that other health bs of EFA's.you should be worried about health aspects at any age, my cousin died at 22 so everyone is at risk
Mr.X
health aspect, read above
Also why do I have to have 20% of my diet from fat?
helps w/ testosterone production and helps utilize stored fat as energy (you have to have some fat to burn fat)
Will I gain no muscle when bulking if I have 5-10% fat in my diet?
yes, you will still gain muscle w/ lowfat
I am not saying I am going to do this, but I want to know the reasoning. I am healthy and young so I am not gonna worry about the cancer fighting benefits and all that other health bs of EFA's.you should be worried about health aspects at any age, my cousin died at 22 so everyone is at risk
Mr.X
Synpax
Well-known member
Me in bold
obiwan9962 said:i suggested a omega369 instead of just fish oil fish mainly contains omega3
6 and 9 have other beneficial properties such as easing depression, skin and hair quality
where can I get these fats
i am a proponent of eating real foods
such as steak and fish and pork and lamb
that costs money and takes time to cook. taste is not an issue for me; most of what I cook tastes pretty bad anyway.
yes oatmeal has protien but it is incomplete
The incompletion is not covered by the other protein source? I'm going to be getting a mix.
you do add the protien powder but would you not relish in biting into a nice thick juicy steak??
Yes, I'd like the steak. Care to cook it and buy it for me? Any idea how many steaks I have to eat to get what I want and how much animal fat it would have? Further, I personally seem to have a problem with the idea of pursuing enjoyment from food. Put it in front of me, no problem, but to pursue it? I can't quiet articulate it but I know it is sound.
and everyone needs veggies
yes you take a multivits
but that is to supplement what you are already getting from real foods
supplements are made from real foods, no?
why not add some spinach for more iron selenium and vitA
broccoli for vit B's, A, C, many minerals and other compounds found beneficial in curciferous veggies
as well as onions for blood thinning properties as well as anitox
many other veggies are beneficial
because it takes tiem and money and is more cost and time efficient to get it from a pill
how long do you think you can be on this diet
the boredom alone will drive you off it
I will do my damndest. But did I mention I was having general tsaus on tuesdays (though not today).
if you are determined enough to stay on it
i just say add some variety
I do appreciate your help. When I get the dextrose and the sodium and a few other things, I'll post a complete description of the nutritents and would really like you to give it a going over for missing stuff.
confuscius once said "variety is the spice of life"
so are you not spicy?
I don't eat spicy stuff
not trying to be an antagonist
sorry if i seem that way
no, very helpful. Karma to you! - and please answer my question re the source of those other omegas.
just wondered how to add variety to what sounds in principle to be a sound way to cut
You mean 'bulk' - not cut?
obiwan9962
New member
omega369's are available in capsule form or loose oils
i use udo's
it contains flax oil, sunflower oil, seasame oil, evening primrose oil, soy lecithin, rice bran and germ oil, oat bran and germ oil, vit e and mct
you can also get them from borage oils and fish oils
some vitamins are not made from real foods but chemicals which are not readily bioavailable
the vitamin i take has green foods included such as chlorella, kelp and alfalfa
as for cooking your food i would enjoy that being i am a chef but being a chef contary to popular misconception we are not well paid
my main concern is that boredom is the usual killer for most diets
if you are so determined then more power to you for lesser men and women have folded under such boredom
i use udo's
it contains flax oil, sunflower oil, seasame oil, evening primrose oil, soy lecithin, rice bran and germ oil, oat bran and germ oil, vit e and mct
you can also get them from borage oils and fish oils
some vitamins are not made from real foods but chemicals which are not readily bioavailable
the vitamin i take has green foods included such as chlorella, kelp and alfalfa
as for cooking your food i would enjoy that being i am a chef but being a chef contary to popular misconception we are not well paid
my main concern is that boredom is the usual killer for most diets
if you are so determined then more power to you for lesser men and women have folded under such boredom
Synpax
Well-known member
Two problems so far:
1) I did the on day diet yesterday and had finished all 3000 calories by about 6 PM. I was still very hungry and had 3 soft chicken tacos and a zesty chicken bowl from the taco bell in my hood.
2) Need to figure out how to get sodium in the diet. I tried adding salt to the flax soaked oats, but it was unedible. I can eat bad tasting stuff but this was way beyond the pale. Is there such a thing as a sodium pill that has no flavor?
1) I did the on day diet yesterday and had finished all 3000 calories by about 6 PM. I was still very hungry and had 3 soft chicken tacos and a zesty chicken bowl from the taco bell in my hood.
2) Need to figure out how to get sodium in the diet. I tried adding salt to the flax soaked oats, but it was unedible. I can eat bad tasting stuff but this was way beyond the pale. Is there such a thing as a sodium pill that has no flavor?
obiwan9962
New member
check with your doc
M
Mr.X
Guest
1) I did the on day diet yesterday and had finished all 3000 calories by about 6 PM. I was still very hungry and had 3 soft chicken tacos and a zesty chicken bowl from the taco bell in my hood.
Try adding more protein w/ fat and fiber before bed
2) Need to figure out how to get sodium in the diet. I tried adding salt to the flax soaked oats, but it was unedible. I can eat bad tasting stuff but this was way beyond the pale. Is there such a thing as a sodium pill that has no flavor?
I would suggest against adding salt, just add something like ketchsup or mustard to some of your food
Mr.X
Try adding more protein w/ fat and fiber before bed
2) Need to figure out how to get sodium in the diet. I tried adding salt to the flax soaked oats, but it was unedible. I can eat bad tasting stuff but this was way beyond the pale. Is there such a thing as a sodium pill that has no flavor?
I would suggest against adding salt, just add something like ketchsup or mustard to some of your food
Mr.X
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