The Reaganomics Fraud:

[Mr. dB]

I don't think you fully appreciate the opportunity for wealth those same people have because they live in this country. How do I think they feel? They should feel lucky.

They are fortunate enough to live in nation that provides greater opportunity for upward financial mobility than probably any other place in the entire world. No money left over each month? Here they have the chance to use diligence and intelligence to make more. Punish people for really succeeding in that is an asshole maneuver.

Ah then we can just tax the poor out of existence.

Your suggestion is absolutely absurd. There may be opportunities for upward financial mobility for some, but it's impossible for everyone to do it. Besides, a society cannot exist without socioeconomic strata. Just like an Army couldn't exist with only Officers. And like it or not, there is a talent gap between the haves and the have-nots. But that doesn't mean we should ignore the needs of the have-nots.

 

[Mr. dB]

No, they shouldn't have entered the insurance business in the first place. It's common sense that politicians will choose today's votes over tomorrow's fiscal disaster.

We've known about the ponzi scheme for a long time. So does today's generation owe you or should this be treated like any other ponzi scheme?

It's not my fault that your generation didn't reproduce enough.

Maybe if we have another big World War, we can have another post-war baby boom.

So we should just end the program? Pull the rug out, just like that?

Actually, I agree that Medicare and Medicaid should both end, the sooner the better.

Because they should be made redundant by a single-payer health system that covers everyone, just like every other Western nation.

 

[mrplunkey]

It's not my fault that your generation didn't reproduce enough.

Maybe if we have another big World War, we can have another post-war baby boom.

So we should just end the program? Pull the rug out, just like that?

We should phase it out. And we should start by making the benefits kick in later, increase individual copayments and put caps on the level of services beneficiaries receive without incurring extra out-of-pocket costs. There's no reason to keep propping-up this ponzi scheme any more than we should be reimbursing Bernie Madoff victims.

Actually, I agree that Medicare and Medicaid should both end, the sooner the better.

Because they should be made redundant by a single-payer health system that covers everyone, just like every other Western nation.

That makes sense. Replace one big lie with an even bigger one. Then, when it accelerates our bankruptcy, you can make more Internet posts asking for an even greater hand-out.

 

[PICK3]

and legislation encouraging "just pull the plug already" directives



PICK3 reserves the right to change his opinion on this sensitive topic when the Grim Reaper cums calling

 

[PICK3]

Obama calls GOP Medicare, spending plans 'radical' - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

 

[Dial_tone]

Yeah, the top 1% of earners pay 40% of all taxes of the and the top 10% pay 70% of the taxes. Oh, and 47% of Americans pay zero taxes.

1. people forget that the income tax is less than half of federal taxes and only one-fifth of taxes at all levels of government.

2. How much should we tax those low-income earners just to make up for these ten companies that aren't paying squat either?
Pay Your Taxes? These 10 Companies Didn’t. | MoveOn.Org

3. Are you related to the Tusculum coach?

 

[75th]

I dont think I've ever visited MoveOn.org, but I saw this comment in that link you posted and it hits the nail right on the head IMO:

There are honest rich, and honest poor. There are also dishonest poor (as you mentioned) and dishonest rich (like this post mentions).

I feel republicans only like to focus on honest rich and dishonest poor, and the democrats on honest poor and dishonest rich.

I say, let's help the honest poor AND honest rich, and do as much as possible to penalize the dishonest poor and dishonest rich.

 

[-SD-]

I dont think I've ever visited MoveOn.org, but I saw this comment in that link you posted and it hits the nail right on the head IMO:

Too much paperwork rob. Gotta focus on fucking over either just the rich or just the poor.

 

[mrplunkey]

1. people forget that the income tax is less than half of federal taxes and only one-fifth of taxes at all levels of government.

2. How much should we tax those low-income earners just to make up for these ten companies that aren't paying squat either?
Pay Your Taxes? These 10 Companies Didn’t. | MoveOn.Org

3. Are you related to the Tusculum coach?

1) We're taxed too much at entirely too many levels: income (state and federal), sales and use, capital gains, inheritance, etc. etc.

2) Companies need to pay their taxes. The problem with the current situation is that we're so uncompetitive globally that companies are far better off recognizing their profits in other countries and paying their taxes there. We should make ourselves globally competitive (in every way, not just taxes) then nail companies that don't pay.

3) No.

 

[PICK3]

1) We're taxed too much at entirely too many levels: income (state and federal), sales and use, capital gains, inheritance, etc. etc.

2) Companies need to pay their taxes. The problem with the current situation is that we're so uncompetitive globally that companies are far better off recognizing their profits in other countries and paying their taxes there. We should make ourselves globally competitive (in every way, not just taxes) then nail companies that don't pay.

3) No.

wealthy guy paying disproportionate level of incum tax = knot good

wealthy guy owning a company and funneling his assets through the company and escaping tax = knot good

there has to be an across the board proportional tax assigned to everyone that doesn't hide under the labels of "federal", "state", or "local" tax, nor "corporate" or "personal".




just sayin'