The question with no answer.

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I know this is a bad question to ask because many people get different results out of a bench shirt.

TYPICALLY, how much can a single ply shirt give to a bench press? (poly or cotton)

I have never used a bench shirt before...so there for im not even aware of the full functionings.

Does single ply even help out at all...or is it just a stability thing

 

[Arioch]

Depends. And you are right, this question has too many variables for a concrete answer to be give.

Benchers with strong triceps will get a lot more than someone like me, who gets absolute shit out of a shirt.

I saw someone get 60 pounds out of a plain Inzer blast shirt. He managed this to win a serious bet.

Inzer is probably still at the top of his Christmas card list.

 

[Deciever]

my friend gets 40lbs out of a blast shirt, as opposed to me, who gets MAYBE 5 lbs, just because im not used to it, my triceps blow nuts, and i already have a strong chest.

 

[benchmonster]

I can easily get 60+ out of a single ply Blast shirt. I have not used the top of the line single ply's, but I can make an educated guess that I can get close to 100 lbs out of one.

I use a customized double denim and probably get somewhere close to 150 lbs out of mine. If I hit 530 at my next meet, that probably represents right at 150 lbs of shirt. Go ahead and hate me. I don't know what to tell you.

If it is any consolation, I cannot deadlift a damn thing. My shirt bench has gone up more in the last year than my raw bench has. For one thing I am terrible out of the bottom of a raw press, I also have horribly chewed up shoulders, and have specifically trained to make my competition bench go up, not my gym bench.

Another thing is, I have a very deep chest, and relatively short arms. I can probably wear a shirt tighter than a shallower chested longer armed person, because what is snug at the top on me is helping a great deal at the bottom. What is snug at the top for a deadlifter would crush their ribs at the bottom, because the bottom for them is so much farther down.

And even though my shirt bench has gone up much more dramatically than my raw bench, I hit more in warmups before putting on a shirt than I could bench with a shirt one year ago.

B.

 

[I'D RATHER BE DEADLIFTING]

I have personally hit 35 lbs more than my best raw bench with single ply EHPHD from Inzer. Benching is a definite weakness for me.

 

[Arioch]

I can easily get 60+ out of a single ply Blast shirt

And you dare complain about me be partial to deep squats?

 

[powerlifterjay]

Before i ever knew what a bench shirt was or ever seen one i weighed 215lbs and could bench 440 raw touch n go. Ordered a regular blast shirt (probably not tight enough) but did a meet and got 405lbs. Now i dont know what i could have paused raw but i didnt feel shit with a poly. But i bought a denim one month later and without changing anythnig i bench a 450 in a meet. So if you take what i could pasue raw i got about 10lbs out of my poly, and 60 out of my denim. Keep in mind when i say i get X out of a shirt i do not pause reps raw. Too dangerous for me. Boards yes raw no.

 

[benchmonster]

And you dare complain about me be partial to deep squats?

Since I don't do full meets, I should probably keep my yap shut about squats. I am blessed to get so much out of a shirt. It is about all that I can do though, and it really seems to piss people off (not you, I recognize true awe, Arioch).

I complain about deep squats because I cannot do them. I have noticed most of the people who complain about shirts and suits are those who do not get much out of them. I rarely remember reading an interview with someone who gets 100+ from equipment, and saying equipment should be banned.

It is also interesting, and probably a good topic for a thread, that in response to a question posed about the importance of genetics, vs. training, the people who said genetics were of utmost importance were generally people who had not won much or set any records, while the people who said training was more important and genetics less important were those who had won world championships, and set records.

I bow to your superior knowledge, and deadlift, Arioch.

And Jay is right guys, never ever pause raw. Bad mojo.
B.

 

[endpoint]

60lbs would be nice....very nice, but i dont think i will get that carry over.....maybe around 40lbs


Now what about suits? whats is everyones average improvement with suits? again single ply

 

[powerlifterjay]

Suits? That is like shirts. I can get 75 lbs out of my single ply hard core. I can squat , well i actually did 700 with no suit, and planned on going 725, but decided to suit up instead of doing a max raw. So top weight lifted i get 75 or so.

For deadlift i dont know. Last meet i pulled raw!

 

[jeremys]

quick question, im curious to know if i have short arms or long arms or just average....what length compared to height would be normal and how do you measure this? thanks...

 

[benchmonster]

Jeremy,

A good way to test would be by doing a deadlift. If you finish the lift, and the bar is near your knees, then you have long arms or a very short torso. If you finish and the bar is at or above your crotch (like me) then you either have short arms or a very long torso.

Also when floor pressing, if the bar stops very far above your chest (5 inches or more) then you have long arms or a little chest. If however the bar is close to your chest, or touches your chest at the bottom (once again, like me) then you either have a huge chest or short arms.

You could also just go to a tailor and get measured for a suit. Ask him how your arms compare to average.

Like height and skin color, there is nothing you can do about it, so it is probably not worth getting real excited about it. If your arms are shorter, you are better suited for benching, and if longer you are better suited for deadlifting, throwing events, and pretty much any and all athletic endeavors.

B.

 

[Adam MacKinnon]

I could get 55lbs out of a ehdhp blast shirt. I was only training for a shirted bench so while my raw bench sted the same my shirted bench flew up and closegrip raw went up.

 

[Deciever]

.....genetics, vs. training, the people who said genetics were of utmost importance were generally people who had not won much or set any records, while the people who said training was more important and genetics less important were those who had won world championships, and set records.


B.

in my opinion, i have to say that genetics do play a large ass part. Thats how some records for my age class are like 884 in the 114 class.. i have to say that that is mainly genetics. My genetics blow donkey nuts on bench, and are decent on squat and deadlift.. i was just lucky enough that the records i broke were very low.

 

[spatts]

What's really amazing is genetics + training + gear + equipment.

 

[Arioch]

Plus my lucky glow in the dark mood ring.

 

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Arioch

How many lbs would i get from a lucky glow in the dark mood ring? Are they legal in all feds?
They probably wouldnt be allowed down here in australia, i got a red light because of my glowing angel stick