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The proper use of Sustanon in a cycle

bigtravis said:
lol. i think D.T was saying "if not inj. no more than once a week". i personally don't go into all that scientific B.S. but i run it e.d., to me that is the only way. then eod would probably be second. but no less.

No, I said what I meant. Sustanon was designed to be injected once a month. Taking it EOD just to take advantage of a measly 30mg prop is assinine. You'd have to do 750mg EOD for that lil bit of Prop to matter. If you want a short ester do prop. If you want a long ester do cyp or enanthate. This Sustanon thing is a jack of all trades...master of none.
 
to each his own. but if someone is deterimined to do sust. eod or ed is the way to go. last year i did the duo-test 250 ed which had 150mg cyp/100mg prop. per ml. now i do 1ml of sust ed with an added 100mg of prop. and it works best for me. the duo was kick ass but can't get it anymore.
 
bigtravis said:
to each his own. but if someone is deterimined to do sust. eod or ed is the way to go. last year i did the duo-test 250 ed which had 150mg cyp/100mg prop. per ml. now i do 1ml of sust ed with an added 100mg of prop. and it works best for me. the duo was kick ass but can't get it anymore.

My dude has a blend called Ultra Sust. I just don't have any interest in it. If I was serious about adding mass I might.

Cyp, Enath, Prop, 175/175/100 mg/ml
 
Well I got 50 Karachis, so I'm just going to take 750mg a week and see what happens. I gained 20+ on last cycle of Sustanon @500mg a week, but if I can get even better more stable blood levels with the Test E then thats what I'll have to start doing because that will mean even better gains right? Dang I really don't want to shoot 750mg a week though. This is only my 3rd. Oh well fuck it!
 
Dial_tone said:
My dude has a blend called Ultra Sust. I just don't have any interest in it. If I was serious about adding mass I might.

Cyp, Enath, Prop, 175/175/100 mg/ml
i do my whole yearly plan kinda like a taper down effect. i use cyp. in the first cycle then in the second i run sust with some extra prop thes two seem to not blow me up as much. then during my cutter i only use prop. i like using both short and long esters for the fact the prop makes me jacked ed and if something happens that i may have to go a week without inj. the longs still help. thats why i like mixing the two.
 
Dial_tone said:
No, I said what I meant. Sustanon was designed to be injected once a month. Taking it EOD just to take advantage of a measly 30mg prop is assinine. You'd have to do 750mg EOD for that lil bit of Prop to matter. If you want a short ester do prop. If you want a long ester do cyp or enanthate. This Sustanon thing is a jack of all trades...master of none.
I agree 110%. And to all those who think running sust all these different crazy ways will mean much more massive gains.... I challenge anyone to put their money where their mouth is. I've been trying to get people to run an experiment to put all this nonsense to rest for a while now. I dont care how you run it, the bottom line on your gains will come down to how many mg's of compound your getting. The gains from a gram/wk total, split multiple times per week, wont be significantly different from 1gram/wk shot all at once. And for anyone who thinks differently I challenge them to prove it with real life results.
 
Outtlaw said:
I agree 110%. And to all those who think running sust all these different crazy ways will mean much more massive gains.... I challenge anyone to put their money where their mouth is. I've been trying to get people to run an experiment to put all this nonsense to rest for a while now. I dont care how you run it, the bottom line on your gains will come down to how many mg's of compound your getting. The gains from a gram/wk total, split multiple times per week, wont be significantly different from 1gram/wk shot all at once. And for anyone who thinks differently I challenge them to prove it with real life results.

Precisely. There are too many people here splitting hairs over things that will amount to a 1-2% difference at best while they half-ass the variables that make a 10-20% difference like training hard, eating properly, getting 8-9 hours of sleep, hydration, etc. When you've taken your physique to the point where 1-2% is the difference between winning and losing then have at it. Until then move the hell on and worry about something else.
 
from steroid tips...

"It has shown to be very effective with many things going for it. To start with it is more effective at lower dosages. For most users of domestics like Cypionate and Enanthate, the drugs tend to require increased dosage each time they are used to provide the user with good results. Eventually many find themselves using 1200 mg per week or more to get results. Sustanon’s primary advantage is that it has been effective in continued use or return use at a reasonable dosage. A dose of 250 mg per week or 500 mg every 10 days is about all one needs of the Sustanon to get good results. Because of the blend of testosterones in Sustanon it seems to be recognised by the steroid receptors for longer periods of time than the previously mentioned domestics, Because a person can use less sustanon and still get results, he will see less side effects. Users report less aromatisation, less water retention, less liver stress, and less endocrine system disturbances, but still they have quality gains from the Sustanon. We did say LESS, not NO side effects. Users report the usual irretability and aggressiveness with Sustanon. The most popular way to use sustanon is on a weight gaining cycle in a stack with an oral anabolic like Anavar or Winstrol. Sustanon lasts up to four weeks in the system while still remaining active, so shots can be taken as little as every two weeks.

Sostanon 250 is one of the most popular steroids and for good reason. It is precisely set up to give you results for up to a month after injection because each of the testosterones that make up sostanon 250 stay active in the body for differing time periods. It gives you almost instant results that you can feel since it will hit you about 3 hours after your first injection. The reason for this is the fast acting properties of the testosterone propionate that is in it. The testosterone phenylpropionate and testosterone isocaproate will typically stay active for about 2-3 weeks each and the testosterone decanoate stays active in the body for up to a month. This combination is what gives sostanon 250 its quick onset which continues to hit you for about 4 weeks after the last injection. This drug also degrades and tapers nicely for the same reasons. Some people will argue that sostanon is good because since it is made up of multiple types of testosterone, that it "will hit multiple androgen receptors." This could not be further from the truth. You only have one type of androgen receptor. All steroids hit the same androgen receptor regardless of what you are taking.

Sostanon 250 is highly anabolic as well as highly androgenic. This makes it a favorite of those trying to bulk up. It is a steroid that gives you what you are looking for; that 20-25 lbs during a 6 week cycle for most steroid novices. You gain mass rapidly and get a nice kick in stength as well while taking this drug. There is almost a synergistic action to sostanon 250, meaning that the combination of the various testosterones in it work better together than the sum of their parts. In this example, 1+1+1+1=5!

Another nice aspect of sostanon 250 is that it aromatizes less and gives you less water retention than other testosterones. This tranlates to a lower risk of gyno and will tend to not give you as much of a "puffy look" as say testosterone cypionate or enanthate would. For these reasons alone, you can see why sostanon 250 would be preferred to other steroids. It is also fairly easy to obtain on the black market and a cinch to buy in Mexico as just about every pharmacy stocks the bodybuilders friend, Sostanon 250!

Side Effects
The side effects tend to resemble other types of testosterones but it tends to not be as harsh. The typical side effects can include the following: nausea, leukopenia, symptoms resembling a peptic ulcer, acne, edema (water retention), excitation or increased aggressiveness (commonly referred to as roid rage), sleeplessness, chills, vomiting, diarrhea, hypertension, prolonged blood clotting time, increase in libido. Females had reported: menstrul irregularities, post-menopausal bleeding, swelling of the breasts, hoarseness or deepening of the voice, enlargement of the clitoris, and water retention. Men had reported: cases of impotence, chronic priapism, epididymitis, inhibition of testicular function, oligospermia, and bladder irritability. Some people that take sostanon 250 have reported "flu like" symptoms as well. These symptoms include a higher than normal fever, stomach aches, being tired, etc. These side effects tend to go away after a few days and should not deter you from your goals of gaining muscle mass!

Effective Dose
250 - 1000 mg / weekly. Sostanon is designed to be a time released steroid though and could theoretically be taken as little as once a month since it stays active in your body for that time period, but for bodybuilding purposes, this is not practical. More commonly, bodybuilders will take between 500 - 750 mg per week for the desired effects. I have heard, and I am saying heard of people taking obscene amounts of sostanon though. I am talking about 3000 mg a week for some of these people. This is of course both stupid and wasteful, but I thought I would fill you in on the extremes."-steroidtips.com
 
I can still recall reading The Underground Steroid Handbook in 1986 where it labeled people who took 500mg Sust/weekly as daredevils.
 
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