The PCT Debate .. Please place your vote.

[mendo]

After talking to some very experienced bros on here, I switched to using HCG during the last 2 weeks of my cycles...but BEFORE PCT. That way the boys are full-sized going into PCT, but the HCG is out of my system so it doesn't keep me shut down. Works great.

 

[gjohnson5]

HCG will keep you shut down, SO WHY USE IT DURING PCT?

I hadn't read that ever

 

[Ulter]

The answer isn't up there. The answer is both during and after. Just a little bump every 4-6 weeks, 8 for my purposes, keep the testes big and bouncy. If you have a 12 week cycle you should use HCG for a 7-10 days in the middle. Then at the end. HCG is a wonderful tool for PCT it jumpstarts your testes to get them ready rumble again. So that when you start your clomid, nolva, arimidex, etc. The testes respond faster. To say you use it for PCT may be misleading for some people. PCT traditionally means what you use Post-Cycle. But HCG at the end is actually done in the last week of the cycle so it's not Post-Cycle in the truest sense because your using it during the last week.

 

[anal itch]

The answer isn't up there. The answer is both during and after. Just a little bump every 4-6 weeks, 8 for my purposes, keep the testes big and bouncy. If you have a 12 week cycle you should use HCG for a 7-10 days in the middle. Then at the end. HCG is a wonderful tool for PCT it jumpstarts your testes to get them ready rumble again. So that when you start your clomid, nolva, arimidex, etc. The testes respond faster. To say you use it for PCT may be misleading for some people. PCT traditionally means what you use Post-Cycle. But HCG at the end is actually done in the last week of the cycle so it's not Post-Cycle in the truest sense because your using it during the last week.

I'm in the middle of a 12 week cycle and just started taking HCG at 500iu's ED for 10 days. What would you recommend as a dose for the last week of a cycle? I have 10k iu's left.

 

[anal itch]

bump

 

[Ulter]

I'm in the middle of a 12 week cycle and just started taking HCG at 500iu's ED for 10 days. What would you recommend as a dose for the last week of a cycle? I have 10k iu's left.

1000iu/day for ten days.

 

[needsize]

The answer isn't up there. The answer is both during and after. Just a little bump every 4-6 weeks, 8 for my purposes, keep the testes big and bouncy. If you have a 12 week cycle you should use HCG for a 7-10 days in the middle. Then at the end. HCG is a wonderful tool for PCT it jumpstarts your testes to get them ready rumble again. So that when you start your clomid, nolva, arimidex, etc. The testes respond faster. To say you use it for PCT may be misleading for some people. PCT traditionally means what you use Post-Cycle. But HCG at the end is actually done in the last week of the cycle so it's not Post-Cycle in the truest sense because your using it during the last week.

exactly
I just finished a cycle that was around 26 weeks, bulking then 19 weeks of contest training. Lowest my dose was during that time was 2 grams a week, during bulking definitely higher. I used hcg at 500iu 1-2x weekly during the cycle, taking a week or two off it now and then to prevent desensitization. Just before the end, I ran hcg at 1000iu eod for the last 10 days, waited 2 days for it to clear, then started clomid/nolva.
There was no lag in getting my nuts back, my sex drive became even better during pct than it was during the cycle.
All that being said though, I thinkn hcg during a cycle, especially if you do it for more than just one week in the middle, isnt necessary unless your cycle is over 12 weeks. For anything under, 1000iu ed or eod for the last 10 days before regular pct(clomid) is plenty

 

[bobbie]

during for me 500iu eod that works for me

 

[Mythicalbeing]

hcg during, with high clomid for 2 weeks afterward(as in when last active esters drop off)

 

[soxfan]

I am done with hcg and clomid for good now. I only use nolva+herbals and I always recover just fine.