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when you order 25g pins and you get sent 20g instead, DO NOT USE THEM!!! don't think "i'm tough, its only 9 weeks." send them back. i have to use a hammer to get them in, and it doesn't feel good, i promise. :mad:
 
Do you really think that 20 gauge is that bad? 25 gauge is no pain...20 gauge is a pinch that feels good cause you know you're getting better and moving up a notch on the food chain.
 
Yeah I had remembered the 18 gauges I got with the sust preloads for my first cycle as being "no big deal".

Then I used an 18 gauge yesterday for drawing only, and it was like "How the F** did I ever think sticking myself with one of these was painless". Just looking at it hurt.
 
too late now, 2 down 7 more to go, but i have 90 more for whoever wants them, cause i'll never use them again.
 
20's are perfect!

They are my favorite size for drawing from the vial. 18's chew up the stopper too bad and anything smaller takes too long to draw with. Draw with a 20, hit with a 23 or 25!

Defying Gravity
 
it's only one injection a week, but it isn't pretty, there is a little bump with a dot of blood, like a bee sting i guess. you can definetely see it. hope my girlfriend doesn't notice!
 
Any time you shove something into your body and tear muscle fibers as well as tissue, it devolpes scar tissue. Look at your leg, ever get a cut and peel the scab to quick. Now your left with a scar. Same thing is hapening when you pierce your body. Scar tissue is building up inside. The bigger the gauge the bigger the hole and the more scar tissue you get. Scar tissue never grows anymore ll it does is sit there and become scar tissue. ALways use the smallest gauge possible. It is not about I am a big man I cna use 18g pins. It is the fact that if you are planning on shooting alot then over time you are going to be nothing but a big scar inside.
 
so how many injections does it take before you start messing your glute up? could this cause a big problem in years to come if i keep injecting? this is my first cycle.
 
I had problems with drawing with an 18. It did seem to chew up the stopper too much. After a while, the hole was enlarged, my stuff started looking funny and I tossed it for fear of infection.
 
infernolost....The glute is a wide area and it would take many years to build up enough scar tissue. Even with scar tissue you can still inject. It just becomes harder for you to push the pin in. Smaller muscle groups say the bis or tris, you should only inject in them with smaller gauge and always rub the area after the injection to spread out the oil, to help releive some of the scarring.
 
man, you were scaring me. i thought i was going to end up with a big hard lump on my ass for the rest of my life.
 
You can get anything through a 27g or larger. You can even use 29 and 31s if you got the time. If you are having trouble pressing out the oil then all you have to do is heat the syringe in some warn water and everything will go fine.
 
I did the 20's my first cycle but never again...

Why would you?

I now get 23g works just as good for about the same price.
 
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