The Mexico scene

[The Terminator]

I have come across a few posts lately about some real misinfomation regarding the Mexican steroid market and I would like to clear up what is real and what is false...

First off NOT all Mexican gear is fake now

Example: Source A has who has been around for years has a large stockpile when the Vet market is shutdown in Decemeber. So his supply is cut off shortly thereafter but with what he has left his clients still can purchase from him for 6 months before he runs out...
But with numerous people on Elite saying all Mexi gear is fake now since the busts that simply ISNT the truth
What about my Example Source A??? Is his old stock stuff all of a sudden fake now since the companies shut down? No its not...

Secondly, there is still alot of real gear in Mexico . The only companys with it though are Pets Pharma and Sydgroup (in any abundance anyway).
The granero owners are actually claiming that Pets Pharma will not shutdown at all (and from what I saw down there just last week I tend to believe that)


Note though: For those guys who have been using the same old South of the border sources for some time you guys are probably safe to continue to use them until they run out. For someone who all of a sudden comes along now saying that they have a bunch of Mexi gear though, I would avoid that kind at this time...

The point is that there is still some QV and other Mexi gear left in Mexico .
QV isnt producing anymore, but there is a good bit of it left in the circles of friends that I run in )

I will personally donate a bottle of Pets Pharma Deca that I picked up last week for a lab test to see how good it is (or isnt).
I'll send it into SCRS this week for lab analysis...
Since I hate Deca anyway I didnt really want it

 

[wellbilt]

thanks for the update bro
ive never heard of pets pharma but id be willing to donate towards a test if necessary
it might be the next qv

 

[Mr.X]

You're right, some mexican gear is left, but there is a LOT flowing into the market that's 100% fake - using the legit boxes, holos, and bottles. Last I hear it was in the 100s of thousands of items from all labs put together. These places had a lot of employees who basically took all the stuff and ran.

Right now, I would only stick to pharm grade products not coming out of mexico.

 

[scout69]

I'm sure thers alot of legit shit left, But still don't trust it...

 

[The Terminator]

You're right, some mexican gear is left, but there is a LOT flowing into the market that's 100% fake - using the legit boxes, holos, and bottles. Last I hear it was in the 100s of thousands of items from all labs put together. These places had a lot of employees who basically took all the stuff and ran.

If there is so much fake gear as people think then WHERE IS IT AT? It certainly isnt on the shelves in Mexico , that I can tell you for sure

If there is so much fake stuff around (as people seem to think) then I would like to know WHERE it is at?, as I have yet to see even ONE bottle of it (and I am frequently in Mexico...)

I think it is being HIGHLY overexaggerated as to how much fake Mexican product there really is...
I for one I havent seen any of it...

 

[Mr.X]

If there is so much fake gear as people think then WHERE IS IT AT? It certainly isnt on the shelves in Mexico , that I can tell you for sure

If there is so much fake stuff around (as people seem to think) then I would like to know WHERE it is at?, as I have yet to see even ONE bottle of it (and I am frequently in Mexico...)

I think it is being HIGHLY overexaggerated as to how much fake Mexican product there really is...
I for one I havent seen any of it...

It's there bro, not reported by just 1 user - the came down the grapevine from the QV guys. The old employees are pushing the fake gear to pharmacies.

If anything, I think the problem with fakes in Mexico is under-exaggerated.

 

[The Terminator]

It's there bro, not reported by just 1 user - the came down the grapevine from the QV guys. The old employees are pushing the fake gear to pharmacies.

If anything, I think the problem with fakes in Mexico is under-exaggerated.

I was personally in not less than 6 graneros and maybe 5-6 pharmacies just last weekend, and I bet I didnt see more than 20 bottles in TOTAL of QV gear in all of those graneros COMBINED...

If there is fake QV it isnt in the pharms and graneros... (atleast not the ones in TJ)

 

[Mr.X]

I was personally in not less than 6 graneros and maybe 5-6 pharmacies just last weekend, and I bet I didnt see more than 20 bottles in TOTAL of QV gear in all of those graneros COMBINED...

If there is fake QV it isnt in the pharms and graneros... (atleast not the ones in TJ)

20 QV bottles, well there is your answer. Demand breeds fakes...that's a fact.

 

[The Terminator]

20 QV bottles, well there is your answer. Demand breeds fakes...that's a fact.

My point was that there was NONE on the shelves anywhere now (20 bottles was what I saw IN TOTAL on the shleves of 6 stores that would have cumulatively had probably 50,000+ bottles on their shelves just 3 months ago )

There 'may' be a slew of fakes coming out but my point was they ARENT on the shelves in Mexico right now...There is virutally nothing on the shelves down there right now...


What you were doing was simply 'speculating' on the future then? Is that what you are trying to tell us?

 

[Mr.X]

My point was that there was NONE on the shelves anywhere now (20 bottles was what I saw IN TOTAL on the shleves of 6 stores that would have cumulatively had probably 50,000+ bottles on their shelves just 3 months ago )

There 'may' be a slew of fakes coming out but my point was they ARENT on the shelves in Mexico right now...There is virutally nothing on the shelves down there right now...


What you were doing was simply 'speculating' on the future then? Is that what you are trying to tell us?

Bro, listen I just personally saw about 200 QV products 'overpriced' of course in MX, in only 2 pharmacies. Granted it's been a few weeks, but it's there.

There is no speculation, these guys are putting fakes out there as we speak. It's easy for them to sell to resellers, they knew them, the managers etc...

Also, you're forgetting to mention that besides QV, mexican pharmacies are infamous for selling all types of fakes, from upjohn winny to generic anadrol.

Stay away from mexico, that's for EF members, you'd have to be a fool to mule gear over the border.

 

[taste-icles]

Lost in translation??? ""Due the recent facts SYDGROUP retires all their anabolic products of the Mexican market, and the company is never gonna produce it again, we are so sorry of all the facts. SYDGROUP ARE NO RESPONSABLE OF THE BAD USE OF THEIR PRODUCTS.""


Sure, there are probably places still with legit gear left, but a place with the volume that could of had hundreds of bottles at a time, and have stock still, is a good place to stake out if I were the cops.

 

[racoon_city]

the future of gear will be UG or powder's, unless euro market come back in a big way

 

[string_bean00]

Supposedly Brovel and Fort Dodge will be staying open.

 

[The Terminator]

Bro, listen I just personally saw about 200 QV products 'overpriced' of course in MX, in only 2 pharmacies. Granted it's been a few weeks, but it's there.

There is no speculation, these guys are putting fakes out there as we speak. It's easy for them to sell to resellers, they knew them, the managers etc...

Also, you're forgetting to mention that besides QV, mexican pharmacies are infamous for selling all types of fakes, from upjohn winny to generic anadrol.

Stay away from mexico, that's for EF members, you'd have to be a fool to mule gear over the border.

A few weeks ago there WERE QV products on the shelves, but not anymore...
I think the hyping of "all Mexican gear is fake " is being pushed more ALOT than necessary and is really not a worry for most guys at this point.
In Mexico it may become a problem soon enough...But there are still quite a few Domestic sources who still have fair amounts of it...(guys that I personally use )

Will there be fakes? Sure, there always is once a company shuts down...

But you have been making it sound like the market is flourishing with them already when that simply ISNT the truth

 

[Mr.X]

A few weeks ago there WERE QV products on the shelves, but not anymore...
I think the hyping of "all Mexican gear is fake " is being pushed more ALOT than necessary and is really not a worry for most guys at this point.
In Mexico it may become a problem soon enough...But there are still quite a few Domestic sources who still have fair amounts of it...(guys that I personally use )

Will there be fakes? Sure, there always is once a company shuts down...

But you have been making it sound like the market is flourishing with them already when that simply ISNT the truth

Mexico is full of fake products. The pharmacies are glad to sell you fakes, the more the better for them. Buying from mexico is just plain stupid, especially the folks that mule it over the border - I never understood why they take the risk.

Fakes being sold everywhere, customs looking for people brining things over, local MX police can pick you up. There is absolutely no reason for members here to go to mexico and buy from there - it's foolish.

 

[ALIN]

I have come across a few posts lately about some real misinfomation regarding the Mexican steroid market and I would like to clear up what is real and what is false...

First off NOT all Mexican gear is fake now

Example: Source A has who has been around for years has a large stockpile when the Vet market is shutdown in Decemeber. So his supply is cut off shortly thereafter but with what he has left his clients still can purchase from him for 6 months before he runs out...
But with numerous people on Elite saying all Mexi gear is fake now since the busts that simply ISNT the truth
What about my Example Source A??? Is his old stock stuff all of a sudden fake now since the companies shut down? No its not...

Secondly, there is still alot of real gear in Mexico . The only companys with it though are Pets Pharma and Sydgroup (in any abundance anyway).
The granero owners are actually claiming that Pets Pharma will not shutdown at all (and from what I saw down there just last week I tend to believe that)


Note though: For those guys who have been using the same old South of the border sources for some time you guys are probably safe to continue to use them until they run out. For someone who all of a sudden comes along now saying that they have a bunch of Mexi gear though, I would avoid that kind at this time...

The point is that there is still some QV and other Mexi gear left in Mexico .
QV isnt producing anymore, but there is a good bit of it left in the circles of friends that I run in )

I will personally donate a bottle of Pets Pharma Deca that I picked up last week for a lab test to see how good it is (or isnt).
I'll send it into SCRS this week for lab analysis...
Since I hate Deca anyway I didnt really want it

good update thanks!

 

[cboogsrun]

Risk vs. Reward? Mex gear doesnt pan out. I'd rather gamble my money in Vegas with the hookers and bums than risk mex gear. X i'm with you on this one. There are tons of reliable sources who don't distribute mex gear. I'd go with them. Just my 2 cents.

BOOGS

 

[justinjones1963]

Good update bro - thanks.

On another note my gear is made in a dirty Ukrainian bathtub - The feds can hit all of the Mexican labs they want - as long as the Donkey shows are still up and running in Mexico they will always have me as a visitor!

 

[flex2win]

Sounds like the only Mexican stuff I'll be needing is a 6pack and a lb...

 

[racoon_city]

Sounds like the only Mexican stuff I'll be needing is a 6pack and a lb...

 

[bittersuit_98]

I have come across a few posts lately about some real misinfomation regarding the Mexican steroid market and I would like to clear up what is real and what is false...

First off NOT all Mexican gear is fake now

Example: Source A has who has been around for years has a large stockpile when the Vet market is shutdown in Decemeber. So his supply is cut off shortly thereafter but with what he has left his clients still can purchase from him for 6 months before he runs out...
But with numerous people on Elite saying all Mexi gear is fake now since the busts that simply ISNT the truth
What about my Example Source A??? Is his old stock stuff all of a sudden fake now since the companies shut down? No its not...

Secondly, there is still alot of real gear in Mexico . The only companys with it though are Pets Pharma and Sydgroup (in any abundance anyway).
The granero owners are actually claiming that Pets Pharma will not shutdown at all (and from what I saw down there just last week I tend to believe that)


Note though: For those guys who have been using the same old South of the border sources for some time you guys are probably safe to continue to use them until they run out. For someone who all of a sudden comes along now saying that they have a bunch of Mexi gear though, I would avoid that kind at this time...

The point is that there is still some QV and other Mexi gear left in Mexico .
QV isnt producing anymore, but there is a good bit of it left in the circles of friends that I run in )

I will personally donate a bottle of Pets Pharma Deca that I picked up last week for a lab test to see how good it is (or isnt).
I'll send it into SCRS this week for lab analysis...
Since I hate Deca anyway I didnt really want it

I'm 100% with you man. I have said this before. My best friend lives in MX and knows denkal, brovel, tornel manufacturing facilities and some high ranked employees since his law firm represents some of these guys. As recent as 10 days ago, brovel was still producing (alive and kicking) he's always bought the juice direct from the manufacturer and he did it recently.
Are there mexican gear fakes out there? Sure there are, just like any other gear regardeless its origin. There is no way to claim that all the mexican gear is fake and the ones from other countries aren't. There is no way to know what you are getting unless you send it to a lab for further analisys.
As far as rumors that mexican labs are closing down...well what do you want them to say?!! Obviously they are going to say whataver sounds like music to the american cops.
Mexican labs are not closing down just because some people in the U.S think there is a problem with AAS use. Mexican labs didn't break any mexican law, and the use/abuse of veterinary AAS is solely the consumer's responsability.
I just don't see how can the Feds make a case against all those guys that got busted, unless the cops have found roids in their posession.
By the way, these labs had only one facility location registered for tax purposes only...but they have 2 or 3 facilities spread within Mexico City on those neighborhoods where no one dares to go in. (think of those places shown in "Man on Fire")
The did it that way, 'cause in Mexico, only the registered facility's sales count for tax purposes, the other 2 or 3 remaining are to divert sales and income from the registered facility to prevent the high taxes. This is a common fraudulent action by tax payers....especially those that are transnationals. (think of fast food restaurants, sports good, sodas, etc).
Have a good one!!

 

[bbkingpin]

Is this the same The Terminator?

 

[solidspine]

I have been to Mexico many, many, many times,


Have never picked up fake gear in Mexico, Never,


Maybe just lucky, but all the fake gear I have seen/purchased was right here or in LA

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

yup fuck all that mexico shit

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Is this the same The Terminator?

I believe so bro..

 

[lartinos]

Term was the man

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

where did he go?

 

[lartinos]

I'm pretty sure I know what happened to him. I hope he gets through his problems.

 

[bigswole95]

That sucks my source is in Mexico,I always use gear from there weather it be QV,Nutri-vet etc.....Never tried the pharm grade shit before.To hard to get.But never had a problem with the Mex gear myself.All I can get is nutri-vet products.A friend of mine told me that out of all the mex gear there is that nutri-vet is at the bottom of the poll for quality.Don't know if thats true are not.Would like to know lol

 

[lartinos]

I checked out that quality muscle site and the last post was from like 8 months ago.

 

[lartinos]

checks out Terms pics in hos profile, lol