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The Many Faces(Names) of Tren, ending the confusion!

Why bother reading? I`m taking BD Trinabol150! :qt: LOL
50mg of tren acetate, 50mg of tren hexahydrobenxylcarbonate and 50mg of tren enanthate! Damn good blend! Strength/mass gains are insane!
 
glennds said:
thanks again viper for posting this, as you did in my thread about tren and test. who knew there were all these different names and types of tren?
How about the new British Dragon Trinabol, whick is like sust, but a tren blend instead of a test blend..... Hell yea!
Bionic
 
Retabolil2 said:
Why bother reading? I`m taking BD Trinabol150! :qt: LOL
50mg of tren acetate, 50mg of tren hexahydrobenxylcarbonate and 50mg of tren enanthate! Damn good blend! Strength/mass gains are insane!

I'd definately like to get a chance to give that blen a whirl sometime. I just like the cheapness of making my own Tren Ace.
 
Good post bro. Right when I have been thinking about tren lately.

Ret, whats the dif between these 2 esters in the blend? tren hexahydrobenxylcarbonate and tren enanthate? Isnt it only a day or 2? Just curious? NOt sure. To me its like blending cyp and enanthate? They are so close, it dosent make a lot of sense to me?

Anywhoo .. Yossarian, I am with you, never had the balls to use it yet. Mostly concerned with my fro. There is NO WAY to combat hairloss from tren! I want to look like a freak, but not a bald freak! lol.

Anwyhoo .. I just posted this on phsyedout's thread. I will post it here for ya. Sounds awesome, but creepy too.

Here is the post I posted on Monkey Arms thread a while ago about my old training parter, and his ProLine Tren experience....

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You know I am thinking of running a short 3 weeker of tren (I am gonna take heat for this as I usually bash it pretty hard), in the summer after this upcoming cycle. I am not to worried about being shut down "harder" than others. I believe that HCG can counteract this, and the users that are shut down "harder" than other gear do not use HCG. What I am concerned with is my hairline (MBP prone), mostly and other sides. There is no way to control hairloss from tren! Thats why I really dont want to run it. I can deal with the agression for a few wks, but dont want to really shed and hair in those few wks. I would probably start out light, and only run it at 50mg eod for the first wk, then up to 75eod, then 100 then see how it goes from there, up it. I do have to admit, it seems like a wonder drug though.

I saw a very dramatic transformation, much like yours only more, from a good friend of mine, who used ProLine's tren before his rep was smashed. It was incredible. He morphed very quickly (3-4wks time), but his experience REALLY scared me (probably him even more, lol)! He cut his cycle short, as he thought that he was dying hahaha .. im serious by the way.

He (and I) were amazed by the body morphing, but he experienced some very fucked up sides, such as skin discoloration, urine discoloration, very strange breath, stomach sickness, and the creepiest one was that his eyes became extremely glossy and bloodshot all the time? WTF? Many people starting pointing this out to him and he got scared after I mentioned it (i was like the 5th person to comment on this to him), and his g-friend couldnt go near him with the breath, even after brushing his teeth!

He felt constantly sick, and said that he felt as though he was injecting poison into himself! He cut the cycle short, and all symptoms went away. Still ... in the 3-4 wks that he ran it, he made an AWESOME transformation, more than a lot of people do on 12 wk standard cycles. So you can imagine, I am a little scared off of his experience, but interested too. I know that most dont get sides like those, but still. I also know the power of it after witnessing it first hand. He also said he had severe night sweats that stank sooo bad! And .. they were similar to the smell of the breath he had, and whenever he sweat in the day, the same smell would be in his sweat. Its like his body was fermenting fina or something lol?? ... very strange.

Anyways, there are not a lot people that report sides like he had, so I may be up for a low dose 3 weeker just to see how I respond to it. But still. I probably would have tried it early if it wasnt for him. lol.

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Mavy
 
Mavy said:
Good post bro. Right when I have been thinking about tren lately.

Ret, whats the dif between these 2 esters in the blend? tren hexahydrobenxylcarbonate and tren enanthate? Isnt it only a day or 2? Just curious? NOt sure. To me its like blending cyp and enanthate? They are so close, it dosent make a lot of sense to me?

Anywhoo .. Yossarian, I am with you, never had the balls to use it yet. Mostly concerned with my fro. There is NO WAY to combat hairloss from tren! I want to look like a freak, but not a bald freak! lol.

Anwyhoo .. I just posted this on phsyedout's thread. I will post it here for ya. Sounds awesome, but creepy too.

Here is the post I posted on Monkey Arms thread a while ago about my old training parter, and his ProLine Tren experience....

------------------

You know I am thinking of running a short 3 weeker of tren (I am gonna take heat for this as I usually bash it pretty hard), in the summer after this upcoming cycle. I am not to worried about being shut down "harder" than others. I believe that HCG can counteract this, and the users that are shut down "harder" than other gear do not use HCG. What I am concerned with is my hairline (MBP prone), mostly and other sides. There is no way to control hairloss from tren! Thats why I really dont want to run it. I can deal with the agression for a few wks, but dont want to really shed and hair in those few wks. I would probably start out light, and only run it at 50mg eod for the first wk, then up to 75eod, then 100 then see how it goes from there, up it. I do have to admit, it seems like a wonder drug though.

I saw a very dramatic transformation, much like yours only more, from a good friend of mine, who used ProLine's tren before his rep was smashed. It was incredible. He morphed very quickly (3-4wks time), but his experience REALLY scared me (probably him even more, lol)! He cut his cycle short, as he thought that he was dying hahaha .. im serious by the way.

He (and I) were amazed by the body morphing, but he experienced some very fucked up sides, such as skin discoloration, urine discoloration, very strange breath, stomach sickness, and the creepiest one was that his eyes became extremely glossy and bloodshot all the time? WTF? Many people starting pointing this out to him and he got scared after I mentioned it (i was like the 5th person to comment on this to him), and his g-friend couldnt go near him with the breath, even after brushing his teeth!

He felt constantly sick, and said that he felt as though he was injecting poison into himself! He cut the cycle short, and all symptoms went away. Still ... in the 3-4 wks that he ran it, he made an AWESOME transformation, more than a lot of people do on 12 wk standard cycles. So you can imagine, I am a little scared off of his experience, but interested too. I know that most dont get sides like those, but still. I also know the power of it after witnessing it first hand. He also said he had severe night sweats that stank sooo bad! And .. they were similar to the smell of the breath he had, and whenever he sweat in the day, the same smell would be in his sweat. Its like his body was fermenting fina or something lol?? ... very strange.

Anyways, there are not a lot people that report sides like he had, so I may be up for a low dose 3 weeker just to see how I respond to it. But still. I probably would have tried it early if it wasnt for him. lol.

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Mavy


Well you'll never know til you try it. If and when you do I'd suggest using the Tren Ace so if you start getting sides that you cannot tollerate or do not want you can discontinue the use and the sides will subside quicker than any other form of tren.
 
Well I never did tren enanthate before and never did it alone. But from what I know tren enanthate is not so potent as tren HHBC or tren acetate. But I love that mix anyways, it works great for me!

Mavy said:
Good post bro. Right when I have been thinking about tren lately.

Ret, whats the dif between these 2 esters in the blend? tren hexahydrobenxylcarbonate and tren enanthate? Isnt it only a day or 2? Just curious? NOt sure. To me its like blending cyp and enanthate? They are so close, it dosent make a lot of sense to me?

Anywhoo .. Yossarian, I am with you, never had the balls to use it yet. Mostly concerned with my fro. There is NO WAY to combat hairloss from tren! I want to look like a freak, but not a bald freak! lol.

Anwyhoo .. I just posted this on phsyedout's thread. I will post it here for ya. Sounds awesome, but creepy too.

Here is the post I posted on Monkey Arms thread a while ago about my old training parter, and his ProLine Tren experience....

------------------

You know I am thinking of running a short 3 weeker of tren (I am gonna take heat for this as I usually bash it pretty hard), in the summer after this upcoming cycle. I am not to worried about being shut down "harder" than others. I believe that HCG can counteract this, and the users that are shut down "harder" than other gear do not use HCG. What I am concerned with is my hairline (MBP prone), mostly and other sides. There is no way to control hairloss from tren! Thats why I really dont want to run it. I can deal with the agression for a few wks, but dont want to really shed and hair in those few wks. I would probably start out light, and only run it at 50mg eod for the first wk, then up to 75eod, then 100 then see how it goes from there, up it. I do have to admit, it seems like a wonder drug though.

I saw a very dramatic transformation, much like yours only more, from a good friend of mine, who used ProLine's tren before his rep was smashed. It was incredible. He morphed very quickly (3-4wks time), but his experience REALLY scared me (probably him even more, lol)! He cut his cycle short, as he thought that he was dying hahaha .. im serious by the way.

He (and I) were amazed by the body morphing, but he experienced some very fucked up sides, such as skin discoloration, urine discoloration, very strange breath, stomach sickness, and the creepiest one was that his eyes became extremely glossy and bloodshot all the time? WTF? Many people starting pointing this out to him and he got scared after I mentioned it (i was like the 5th person to comment on this to him), and his g-friend couldnt go near him with the breath, even after brushing his teeth!

He felt constantly sick, and said that he felt as though he was injecting poison into himself! He cut the cycle short, and all symptoms went away. Still ... in the 3-4 wks that he ran it, he made an AWESOME transformation, more than a lot of people do on 12 wk standard cycles. So you can imagine, I am a little scared off of his experience, but interested too. I know that most dont get sides like those, but still. I also know the power of it after witnessing it first hand. He also said he had severe night sweats that stank sooo bad! And .. they were similar to the smell of the breath he had, and whenever he sweat in the day, the same smell would be in his sweat. Its like his body was fermenting fina or something lol?? ... very strange.

Anyways, there are not a lot people that report sides like he had, so I may be up for a low dose 3 weeker just to see how I respond to it. But still. I probably would have tried it early if it wasnt for him. lol.

-------------------------------


Mavy
 
Retabolil2 said:
Well I never did tren enanthate before and never did it alone. But from what I know tren enanthate is not so potent as tren HHBC or tren acetate. But I love that mix anyways, it works great for me!


the only thing that makes ace more potent from the rest is simply the ester weight....longer ester=heavier ester=less trenbolon in each shot....the first post even says it...
 
bicepts101 said:
the only thing that makes ace more potent from the rest is simply the ester weight....longer ester=heavier ester=less trenbolon in each shot....the first post even says it...
I had no chance to compare and now I`m using a blend and loving it! Gained around 30lbs in 7weeks.
 
ViperHMS said:
Ok well with the abundance of Tren posts lately I'd like to put this up. It is also in another Fina thread, but now it will be here for everyone to see.


The many faces (names) of Tren: ENDING THE CONFUSION
By BASK8KACE on AR.

I have been reading about Tren and have found wide spread confusion about it mainly because when one writes "Tren," s/he could be referring to at least 5 different compounds:

1. Trenbolone Acetate--injectable version (Finaject and Finajet)
2. Trenbolone Acetate--pellet form (Finaplix)
3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)
4. Trenbolone Hexahydrobencylcarbonate (called Parabolan on this board and several others)
5. Trenbolone Enanthate

The many names of tren have confused many people. I've seen VETs and MODs and MEMBERs of several boards (not just this one) equate one tren compound with another, not knowing that one is actually not equivalent to the other. One common mistake I see is calling Trenbolone Hexahydrobencylcarbonate "Tren Enanthate." They are similar, but not the same (see below). I also have seen people refer to Tren Acetate as Parabolan--wrong!

So, let's clear this up.

The following is a brief summary of the main differences of each that I have created in order to clear up my own confusion on tren and hopefully help others here in the process. It is not meant to provide a detailed description of Tren activity in the body.

1. Trenbolone Acetate--injectable version (Finaject and Finajet)
This is correctly referred to as "Fina." Finaject is the acetate form of trenbolone. It was produced in a short acting ester (acetate), so its effect lasts only a short time and frequent administration is necessary. Finaject was an injectable steroid of veterinary medicine, which was extremely popular in bodybuilding and powerlifting during the 1980's. The injectible Trenbolone Acetate called Finaject is no longer produced.

(Refer to the end of this post for a discussion of Esters)

2. Trenbolone Acetate--pellet form (Finaplix)
Finaplix was a veterinary cattle implant, which contained the potent androgenic steroid Trenbolone Acetate. Once Finaject and Finajet were nolonger manufactured, bodybuilders began using Finaplix to make topical or injectible versions of Trenbolone Acetate.

Today, cattle implants have become designer products with varied doses and combinations of estrogenic and/or androgenic (trenbolone) agents. So, the process of converting cattle implants to useful versions of trenbolone acetate has become more dificult since one must separate the trenbolone from the other additives present in the cattle implants before using it.

3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)
Parabolan contains a much different ester than Finaject and Finajet, called Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate. This ester extends the activity of trenbolone for more than two weeks, a more suitable design for human use.

The amount of trenbolone in 76 mg of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate is equivalent to the amount of trenbolone in only 58 mg of Trenbolone Acetate. The acetate is a little more potent, more effective per milligram, because the acetate ester is lighter than the cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester; therefore a higher percentage of the weight of Trenbolone Acetate is trenbolone. A similar comparison also can be made with the other long lasting esters of trenbolone: enanthate and hexahydrobenzylcarbonate.

The muscle building properties of Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate are the same as Trenbolone Acetate (Finaject or Finajet) except for the longer half-life.

Although it is very similar, this compound is NOT the same as Trenbolone Enanthate. The only difference in these compounds is the esters (see ester definitions below), which all act almost identically (long lasting esters).

4. Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (called Parabolan on this board and some others)
NOTE: At the time of this post this compound name was spelled wrong (hexahydrobencylcarbonate) in the steroid profiles. The correct spelling is listed above.
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate and Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate are exatly the same substances. Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester is just another name for cyclohexylmethylcarbonate ester.

5. Trenbolone Enanthate
Although it is very similar, this compound is NOT the same as Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate). The only difference in these compounds is the esters (see ester definitions below).


THE DIFFERNCE BETWEEN THE ESTERS

The most important difference between the esters is wheter it is a short acting ester or a long lasting ester. The next most important difference is the weight of the ester. As mentioned under the Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate section (above), the relative potency of each ester of trenbolone is parially dependent on the weight of its ester.

The main difference between different esters is simply the number of carbon atoms in the ester. Propionate has three carbons, acetate has two, isobutyrate has four, enanthate has seven, cypionate has eight, and decanoate has ten. More unusual esters, such as cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (used in Parabolan) has eight carbons and one more oxygen than the above esters making it the heaviest.

Therefore, the esters of trenbolone in order of potency when compared miligram to miligram (from most potent to least):
1. Tren Acetate
2. Tren Enanthate
3. Tren Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (Tren Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)

The differences in potency caused by the esters are negligible. So, you should base your choice of Tren on how frequently you plan to inject, how much you trust your supplier, and how much you trust the brand of tren you purchase.

If you are concerned about the possible side effects of tren, and don't mind frequent injections, then consider using Trenbolone Acetate. If bad side effects manifest, Tren Acetate will quickly leave your body after the last injection due to the short acting ester (acetate); and your body will be able to begin to recover quickly. On the contrary, your recovery from bad side effects won't begin until 2 weeks after the last injection of a long lasting ester of tren because a long lasting ester of tren will stay active in your body for more than two weeks after your last injection--continuing to contribute to the bad side effects.

LEARN MORE ABOUT CATTLE IMPLANTS HERE:
http://extension.usu.edu/files/agpubs/ag509.pdf
Bump
 
Retabolil2 said:
I had no chance to compare and now I`m using a blend and loving it! Gained around 30lbs in 7weeks.


you look big ret....word of advise cut that hair bro.....shorter on the sides
 
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