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The low down on EQ?

BOOEY

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Does EQ have any place in a cycle where the user is more concerned with overall mass and strength than vascualrity/hardness/leanness? I see more and more people adding EQ to their cycles (not just on this board), and I ask myself, why?
 
EQ is great for building mass.
It should be used as a secondery steroid in your cycle.
Test\EQ\Dbol for example is a very basic and proven mass cycle.
 
Test\EQ\Dbol for example is a very basic and proven mass cycle.[/QUOTE]

It's also great for cutting. I'm on it now! ;) The cool thing about EQ is that it's so versatile. Great for bulking, great for cutting. Slow buildup and you'll keep most of the gains. For many it's their fav AAS.
 
Makavelli said:
Test\EQ\Dbol for example is a very basic and proven mass cycle.
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It's also great for cutting. I'm on it now! ;) The cool thing about EQ is that it's so versatile. Great for bulking, great for cutting. Slow buildup and you'll keep most of the gains. For many it's their fav AAS.[/QUOTE]


Agree w/that.
 
It's definitely at the top of my list now. My current run with Tren has been kinda disappointing. So now EQ edges it out for the top spot.
 
I think a lot of people chose EQ over deca becaues of deca's hard shut-down factor. Plus, with EQ, you don't have to worry about progesterone sides...so that's one less ancilliary you need to have on hand for your cycle.
 
now running eq with tren (parabolan). this is best combo i have found after lots of trial and error. i have been using eq now for about 10 weeks and it is true about the slower gains, but that is best in the long run.

definitely seeing some intense vascularity now. lots of blue veins visible thru me arms, shoulders and chest.
 
I have got some sick vascularity from EQ and havn't done an eq cycle in 9 months, my vascularity is probably permanant. It is great for mass too, I don't like it for cutting anymore, makes me too hungry.
 
BOOEY said:
Interesting, I may give it a go next time. So, how long should it be run for optimal use?
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I always have had the best results running it for 12 weeks. I would say, no less then 10 though. Typically around 400mg/wk for me.
 
LOVE eq... build VERY keepable mass on a calorie deficient diet... In my opinion, muscle thats built on that caloric enironment is as good as permanent.
 
Im runing them both now..as i posted... works good for me...not androgenic..so not so psyche dup and also recovery times are rather sucky ..but muscle is steady and gained.
 
growth and courage. Many people stack EQ and Deca, but you are much better stacking a ClassI and ClassII steroid together. Class I are mostly the anabolics for the like EQ, Deca, Primo, Var etc. These stack best with ClassIIs like Winny or Dbol for example. Steroids like test work through both class-I and II activity which is why most people like to run it as a base. You need test for many things going on in your body, and its also what all of these roids are derrived from. I am with bicepts though. I get more sides from test that gains. I run it at a low dose as well.

I will say this though. i think that you can both cut and bulk on any drug, but Deca will build mass much better than EQ. EQ would be a better choice for cutting. For the absolute best in lean mass try ssomething like EQ/Tren/Winny. For the absolute best stack in the world for actual hypertrophy of muscle fibers, use the proven best mass stack of all time. Test/Deca/Dbol. I am sorry but if you dont grow off of any of these cycles, you might as well just hang up the hat.

I love EQ as well.
 
I love EQ. I'll use it every cycle. 600mg EW so far.
It's just smooth for me. I don't get much hunger from it, that I notice.
But I'm always hungry :whatever: Lots of veins :D
 
I have found that all drugs stack exactly the same witheach other... i remember in th eold days i used to ask wha tstacks good with what..lol....i have noticed it to be liek this...... the more items you are on the better you grow..simple..... eq + deca= ok
eq+deca+dbol= realy ok
eq+deca+dbol+test=super
eq+deca+dbol+test+tren=super super
etc etc
I dont know about any classes bro... Ill tell you this though...you should have something in the cycle that will act a s a form of test ( for example th eeq in my cycle is good as it makes me very horny fight deca dick and supplies some androgenic activity so i feel ok....while the deca supplies only anabolic growth .....

No matter what you do it is important to always have something at least moderatly androgenic and also some things which are highly anabolic......
For example...Testosterone+Deca IN MY HONEST OPPINION..is the simplest, safest and most effective stack in th eworld......

As a matter of fack this is what i plan to start doing EXclusively ....
Deca= test for bulking
Eq + test for cutting
OF course other things are nice to throw in to Kick things up anotch:) IE. tren....dbol... abombs..but iunfortunately they are all hard on your body
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand "deca dick" is related to the progesterone elevation side which in turn causes elevated prolcatin levels.

Dostinex/Cabaser should handle elevated prolactin levels effectively. Pretty much solving the whole "deca dick" issue. No?
 
tical said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand "deca dick" is related to the progesterone elevation side which in turn causes elevated prolcatin levels.

Dostinex/Cabaser should handle elevated prolactin levels effectively. Pretty much solving the whole "deca dick" issue. No?
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dost will help, but its certainly no cure, elevated progesterone will cause decreased libido and erectile dysfunction by itself , even though associated rising prolactin levels make the problem even worse.
 
And my next cycle :qt:

ohadohad2 said:
EQ is great for building mass.
It should be used as a secondery steroid in your cycle.
Test\EQ\Dbol for example is a very basic and proven mass cycle.
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Growth&Courage said:
If EQ + deca is stacked - would this have any implications on the sex drive and ability to get hard ons?
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Runin 500 mg Eq /week and 500-700 Deca / week

Horny, hard and :qt:
 
Would EQ, at 300-400 a week for 10 weeks, be a good cycle for an endurance athlete (like a triathlete) to use? Basically looking for a few lean lbs, and cutting fat.
 
benny1970 said:
Would EQ, at 300-400 a week for 10 weeks, be a good cycle for an endurance athlete (like a triathlete) to use? Basically looking for a few lean lbs, and cutting fat.
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I think it would be fine. 400/10 weeks.
 
Been on 400/wk for almost 6 weeks. Minimal gains, possibly less than when I ran only 15mg/day Anavar. Not impressed with EQ. One month left in 10-week cycle. Tren and test should take me up a few notches. Definite androgen sides from EQ--I was very aggressive during first two weeks of use. Not so with test or tren (just me). Definite estrogen sides--signs of gyno and gained notable fluid retention until I hit the Nolva. Appetite side? Real, which I need. Vascularity? Bunch of BS unless your BF is low enough to begin with--mine isn't so $#@! that. Why am I so negative? Because this many people being positive about a single piece of gear can't all be right. Have some balance gentleman. Syd-Group EQ--thumbs down.

-e
 
first of all, you've only been on 6weeks. 2nd 400mg is not a lot as far as eq goes, and depeding on ur cycle history. 3rd, you just said your body fat is higher than it should be, so what do you expect?
 
Escher im sorry but i can almost certainly bet your gear is bad or underdosed...im at about 22% bf now...im bulking....and believe me i am vascular which i would not be if not for the eq...also i have good gains at 400-600 /week..and i am not a person who ussualy rusn low doses....so i kno wwhat im talking about..... EQ is good.....
 
im thinking of hitting a dbol/test/deca or dbol/test/eq, what would you guys suggest? I really dont want to deal with the sides of deca, but i have never used eq. I am planning to do it for a bulker.
 
I think its a super idea..should be very very productive...my favorite stack...
 
Extra veins don't do any good. You already have plenty of them.
What supplies oxygenated blood to you muscle are arteries.
I don't know what a few more blue lines on your chest do you any good esthetically.
 
dogoftheday said:
Extra veins don't do any good. You already have plenty of them.
What supplies oxygenated blood to you muscle are arteries.
I don't know what a few more blue lines on your chest do you any good esthetically.
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i dont know but i sure like the way it looks
 
dogoftheday said:
Extra veins don't do any good. You already have plenty of them.
What supplies oxygenated blood to you muscle are arteries.
I don't know what a few more blue lines on your chest do you any good esthetically.
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lol. EQ dosent give you "extra veins", (or arteries for that matter) although that would be nice. It induces hyperdialation of blood vessels amplifying the red blood cell transport delivering a larger nutrient supply to the muscle cells. EQ will give you sick pumps, and crazy veins that look like road maps, even with a higher than normal bf.
 
I ran 500mgs of test ent with with 400mgs of EQ last summer. It was awesome. I cut down.. yet got bigger and stronger. I had veins like crazy through my arms, delts, pecs, abs, and quads. I was at a pool party and everyone was calling me BALCO... lol.
 
EQ has become a staple in all my cycles. Gives nice slow gains w/o shutting you down like deca. The pumps are great too. The only thing that I don't like is the appetite increase when I'm dieting. It's just kicked in for me this week... :chomp:
 
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