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The Ideal Lover!

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Most people have dreams in their youth that get shattered or worn down with age. They find themselves disappointed by people, events, reality which cannot match their youthful ideals.

Ideal lovers thrive on people's broken dreams which become life long fantasies. You long for romance? Adventure? Lofty spiritual communion?
The Ideal Lover reflects your fantasy. He or she is an artist in creating the illusions you require, idealizing your portrait.

In a world of disenchantment and baseness, there is limitless seduction power in following the path of the Ideal Lover.

Are you the Ideal Lover?
Do you wish to be the Ideal Lover?
Or have you been disappointed by what you thought was your Ideal Lover?
Have you ever met this Ideal Lover?

Who is she/he?

:rose:
 
You tell us first! BTW, how come someone hasnt snapped you up yet?

Answers to your questions:
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.

Off the subject have you ever listened to the Hoodoo gurus? I saw them ages ago in concert, then I hung out with them afterwards since I worked there, they were real cool guys!
 
I have been snapped up many a times, until I thought I found my Ideal Lover, but I was mistaken and now I run on neutral emotions where my brain makes the decisions and no loger my heart!
yes yes yes yes

BrothaBill said:
You tell us first! BTW, how come someone hasnt snapped you up yet?

Answers to your questions:
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.

Off the subject have you ever listened to the Hoodoo gurus? I saw them ages ago in concert, then I hung out with them afterwards since I worked there, they were real cool guys!
 
Yasmina said:
yes yes yes yes OMG YES YES OH YES!!


ummmm, what are you doing right now. Oh never mind your responding to the questions, I thought you were doing something else. :qt:

What happened with your ideal lover?
I run with my brain too, but I know that I still have the heart thing just under the surface. You see the heart pumps blood to the brain and so when the heart is affected your brain goes out the window. ;)
 
Yeah, I dont know if the Ideal lover really exists, but I do long for the romance, adventure, and most importantly the spiritual communion. But I think Ive talked myself into believing that was the case, but deep down I knew it was not the case. Never been in Love before, but Ive stepped in it a few times!

BTW meantime I figured it out, it was just a matter of resizing the photo for my avi. You like it?
 
Its better to think and not to wear your heart on your sleeve.
He is just gone. Not sure where. :)


Hi Meantime1.
ARe you at work now?
 
Bill I hear u

I feel the same way too
I guess the problem with knowning what u want is it prevents u from unnessary mistakes and heart breaks
soo u end been single more times than being in a relationship
 
Yasmina said:
Its better to think and not to wear your heart on your sleeve.
He is just gone. Not sure where. :)


Hi Meantime1.
ARe you at work now?


SO how long go did he split?

Yeah meantime, I needed to be single for this last year and a half. Ive gained alot of perspective from the last relationship. I think Im at the place where my next relationship will be alot better, just got to find a lady thats in the same place.
HEY how come you two arent out on the town this weekend?
 
Im not talking about working, Im talking about working it, know what I mean!~
 
i have 3 exams next week, just studying for those
so no going out

and you? why are you not goig out?
who is the fellow in your avatar?
 
i might be out tonight but we will see
i also have been single for a yr and one month
only by choice
since i needed time to breath but also to rediscover myself
and most of all to have time to reflect on my previous relationship
so i can do better next time

I went on a date last night
and it went well
but we will see
 
GoldenDelicious said:
sex is like food, or wine, no such things as ideal, just excellent/great/not bad/pretty crap/Djufo style

yeah i kinda agree, but answer the questions, I am curious about your answers...;)
 
Yasmina said:
i have 3 exams next week, just studying for those
so no going out

and you? why are you not goig out?
who is the fellow in your avatar?

Oh I see, I hope your studies are going well.
I'm not into going out for some reason, havent in a long time. I used to go out almost every night a week last spring but I just sorta stopped all of sudden. Just havent been interested after while you get kinda bored with that, thatll prolly change in a coupla months though, ya never know. I get bored with doing the same thing and usually take long breaks and change my habits frequently. I so need to be more social though, just taking a break from people for awhile, sometimes they can be tiresome. I know thats not very positive thing to say but Im sure thatll change too.
Taking a break from it all. Besides when I start going out again I'll prolly disappear from the board for the most part and I know how much you'll miss me LOL!!

Oh my avi is just some pic of an australian guy, I cant get his number for you. Do you find him attractive?
 
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Razorguns said:
Only a chick could come up with a thread like this. :)

lol
i am so glad you recognized the true roots of this thread
now are you that ideal lover or not?
 
Yasmina said:
lol
i am so glad you recognized the true roots of this thread
now are you that ideal lover or not?

I don't know. Why don't you come and find out.

Oww! Now there's a GUY's answer. 2 points.
 
Yasmina said:
Most people have dreams in their youth that get shattered or worn down with age. They find themselves disappointed by people, events, reality which cannot match their youthful ideals.

Ideal lovers thrive on people's broken dreams which become life long fantasies. You long for romance? Adventure? Lofty spiritual communion?
The Ideal Lover reflects your fantasy. He or she is an artist in creating the illusions you require, idealizing your portrait.

In a world of disenchantment and baseness, there is limitless seduction power in following the path of the Ideal Lover.

Are you the Ideal Lover?
Do you wish to be the Ideal Lover?
Or have you been disappointed by what you thought was your Ideal Lover?
Have you ever met this Ideal Lover?

Who is she/he?

:rose:

Great question!

First, I am TRYING to be an ideal lover. I am trying to create MY style, understand women, their desires, their bodies, so that I can satisfy them. To be an ideal lover, you have to satisfy a women, physically, by looks and senasations, i.e. smell, touch, hearing, etc........

As far as me satisfing women as being an ideal lover. For one, women are different, so I could not be the ideal lover for every women, else you would lose your identity. The most important thing for me is to be a BADASS as I want to be. Hopefully, women like this. So you would have to ask the women I have been with IF I am their ideal lover.

Have I met the ideal lover. I have met alot of awesome lovers. Yes. Each was different, but sorry to say, each one, has had flaws according to my tastes of looks, personality, and love/sex.

I could give you some names of awesome girls, but I do not think that is cool.
My ideal type: I would say Giselle Bundchen. Not only is her body hot, her face beautiful, but she looks like a free spirited, wild, sophisticated women/girl. I like what I call women/girls, which is a physically mature women, but has a girlish quality about her.


:)





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Yasmina said:
Most people have dreams in their youth that get shattered or worn down with age. They find themselves disappointed by people, events, reality which cannot match their youthful ideals.

Ideal lovers thrive on people's broken dreams which become life long fantasies. You long for romance? Adventure? Lofty spiritual communion?
The Ideal Lover reflects your fantasy. He or she is an artist in creating the illusions you require, idealizing your portrait.

In a world of disenchantment and baseness, there is limitless seduction power in following the path of the Ideal Lover.

Are you the Ideal Lover?
Do you wish to be the Ideal Lover?
Or have you been disappointed by what you thought was your Ideal Lover?
Have you ever met this Ideal Lover?

Who is she/he?

:rose:



Ideal lovers are made not born.

It all comes down to basic chemistry....
 
so far she's only been in my imagination and dreams.
 
Yasmina said:
Have you ever met this Ideal Lover?
:rose:

yes. she was about waist high, had big ears (to hold on to) and a flat head (so I could put down my beer & pizza).

Oh and she had an extra boob on her back (good for dancing).

-
 
The Shadow said:
Ideal lovers are made not born.

It all comes down to basic chemistry....

Aye, quite true, mon, but it's a life attitude as well though, no? Giving? Listener? Respectful? Confident? Vulnerable? Dedicated? Healthy? Intense? etc...

It's a huge salad but so much of it rolls over into other aspects of life and vice versa. You CAN tell so much about a persons potential 'ideal lover' status by other signals in their life...

The most poignant example that comes to mind is that an inattentive and selfish lover is almost certainly dishing out the same meager portions in the rest of the relationship.
 
Yasmina said:
I have been snapped up many a times, until I thought I found my Ideal Lover, but I was mistaken and now I run on neutral emotions where my brain makes the decisions and no loger my heart!
yes yes yes yes

That's a shame, I hope you are not comfortably numbe like it sounds. Being able to feel and being vulnerable to getting hurt is way much better than not feeling at all.

BTW Chef, if that is you in your Avi, then you got it made. You should be a model.
 
Allon said:
That's a shame, I hope you are not comfortably numbe like it sounds. Being able to feel and being vulnerable to getting hurt is way much better than not feeling at all.

BTW Chef, if that is you in your Avi, then you got it made. You should be a model.


Silly Semite, Trix are for kids!


You know why its so blurry? So i dont kill the house plants. enough said.


As to your point about being hurt, i have spent more of my life either pining or in pain than not... and i would NEVER have it any other way.

I have known, and know, greater love than i thought possible in a thousand lifetimes, and pain that has brought me to lick the face of despair more times than anyone should bare...

It is the rollercoaster of life that blossoms, that bares the fruit of joy, of art, that defines LOVE as desireable. Who the hell would want it if there was nothing at stake?


Love found along the 'easy road' is worth the effort that it takes to win it: nothing. Is that the recipe for everyone? No, just mine, and i will stick with it....
 
Yasmina said:
Most people have dreams in their youth that get shattered or worn down with age. They find themselves disappointed by people, events, reality which cannot match their youthful ideals.

Ideal lovers thrive on people's broken dreams which become life long fantasies. You long for romance? Adventure? Lofty spiritual communion?
The Ideal Lover reflects your fantasy. He or she is an artist in creating the illusions you require, idealizing your portrait.

In a world of disenchantment and baseness, there is limitless seduction power in following the path of the Ideal Lover.

Are you the Ideal Lover?
Do you wish to be the Ideal Lover?
Or have you been disappointed by what you thought was your Ideal Lover?
Have you ever met this Ideal Lover?

Who is she/he?

:rose:

This is a very interesting topic!!

I very much try to be my partner’s ideal lover... I am a very unselfish lover and I try everything possible to please my partner... I am big on communication and try to find out everything that my partner likes and dislikes about my methods during foreplay and sex.... But also I expect him to want to do the same for me...
When I am in a relationship of course I strive to be the ideal lover because for me a strong relationship has to involve earth shattering sex otherwise I will lose interest and the relationship is not worth my time.
I have been very disappointed with this… I thought I found my ideal lover….. But the relationship is almost over due to his drug problem and a lot of lies…. Great sex can really cloud your brain from the lies right in front of your eyes…

Well I doubt I will find that person that is able to keep up with me and I respect enough to let inside my world…
 
Whoa Chef, your posts are always so cryptic... in the above post it is the first part of your answer that is even blurrier than the avi, but I think I understood you...
 
Allon said:
Whoa Chef, your posts are always so cryptic... in the above post it is the first part of your answer that is even blurrier than the avi, but I think I understood you...

:lmao:

the first line is just a play on words from an old american cereal commercial... no hidden meaning...
 
ChefWide said:
It is the rollercoaster of life that blossoms, that bares the fruit of joy, of art, that defines LOVE as desireable. Who the hell would want it if there was nothing at stake?


Love found along the 'easy road' is worth the effort that it takes to win it: nothing. Is that the recipe for everyone? No, just mine, and i will stick with it....


Aye, the older I get the more I believe this. Many people want love but are afraid to risk anything to get it, or even keep it. Sometimes you just gotta go all in...
 
Forge said:
Aye, the older I get the more I believe this. Many people want love but are afraid to risk anything to get it, or even keep it. Sometimes you just gotta go all in...


True.

Chef speaks the truth.

I might take his advice and risk it all for love again!
ahhhhh.... :rose: :qt: :heart:
 
Yasmina said:
True.

Chef speaks the truth.

I might take his advice and risk it all for love again!
ahhhhh.... :rose: :qt: :heart:


You're gonna get hurt!! WATCH OUT! DONT PLAY LIKE THAT! Dont drive so fast, dont party so hard, dont train so intensely, why do you eat so weird, why do you fight against the odds, why do you strive, struggle, work so damn hard.... etc etc...

Why is it that in all aspects of life, we as group especially, are willing to go against the easy path, fight for a specific and defined goal, even one we may never achieve and say 'TO HELL WITH THE HATERS: I'M GOING FOR IT!'...

yet when it comes to love, to our PARTNER, we would rather settle, rather not rock the boat.... it's nuts. It doesn't fit.




If you are willing to FIGHT TO WIN, then you are certainly willing to risk GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED, in essence: TO LOSE!¨



Any lover worth loving is worth the pain. Period.






Yasmina, i will give you the most selfish, dangerous, foolhardy advice ever: GO FOR IT! The chance are you will be in agony, as you have before, but you might just win.
 
Forge said:
Communication. It's important in a relationship. :)
well yes of course, though even that i consider myself to be a perceptive person, i wouldnt presume to know things to such detail. really, im flat out thinking which of my lovers was the best, let alone ideal, let alone make those decisions for another....and im not about to ask!! ;)
 
Are you the Ideal Lover? -- Probably not -- my ability to respond depends on his and my ability to communicate what we want or think we want, or the confidence in the relationship to let it all hang out and discuss things with no fear of how the other would react. That opens up all sorts of new avenues to determine what "ideal" is.

Do you wish to be the Ideal Lover? Of course, I don't aspire to be the "good enough lover". However "Ideal Lover" is a balance between what he wants and what I want, meaning I'm not sacrificing my own ideals, morals, or sense of comfort / confidence to meet his demands.

Or have you been disappointed by what you thought was your Ideal Lover? Yes. Mostly failed due to lack of communication and just not enough time spent w/ the person to truly know them. I think part of being an ideal lover is being an ideal friend, and that part seems to require a longer time investment.

Have you ever met this Ideal Lover? Um, came close, but no cigar. (Please no cracks about the Lewinsky cigar...)

Who is she/he? TBD
 
*If YOU WANNA BE MY LOVER, BETTER GET WITH MY FRIENDS...SLAM YOUR BODY AND SHHGGGGSSSAYYAHHHH*

Damn can you believe SPICE Girls came out with that over 8 years ago!!! The spice world movie came out in 1997!! Wow, time moves way too fast.

And to taking the risk again, chef is right, nothing ventured nothing gained.






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Damn. And now they are no longer friends, so who does the guy have to get with before he can be the lover?
 
I have no idear, of course I wouldnt take the advice of five British tarts singing a silly song, it just kinda catchy.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
well yes of course, though even that i consider myself to be a perceptive person, i wouldnt presume to know things to such detail. really, im flat out thinking which of my lovers was the best, let alone ideal, let alone make those decisions for another....and im not about to ask!! ;)


My ex-wife was the most ideal woman I've ever met for me, so far, except for the fact that when it came to her emotions she would clam up. If something bothered her she would rather hide it and bury it than complain about it. When it came to discussing sex or anything else she was as open as a window on a breezy summer day, but emotionally she was very withdrawn. My ideal lover needs to communicate better than that, it's one of the things that led to our divorce. The act of making love is much more than simply having sex.

Men aren't mind readers, they are problem solvers, and our women need to let us know when something bothers them or it won't get fixed.
 
Sassy69 said:
LMAO -- so was Achy Breaky.


Sassy, even the feckin' mention makes Mr. Happy crawl up into my chest cavity... dayum... Billy Ray Cyrus: isnt he doing scat porn now with Terence Trent Darby?
 
ChefWide said:
Sassy, even the feckin' mention makes Mr. Happy crawl up into my chest cavity... dayum... Billy Ray Cyrus: isnt he doing scat porn now with Terence Trent Darby?


OMG. Thx for the image. I guess I don't have to worry about any more hunger pangs today. I've pretty much lost my appetite.

Its just a catchy tune for god's sake. :rainbow:
 
Forge said:
My ex-wife was the most ideal woman I've ever met for me, so far, except for the fact that when it came to her emotions she would clam up. If something bothered her she would rather hide it and bury it than complain about it. When it came to discussing sex or anything else she was as open as a window on a breezy summer day, but emotionally she was very withdrawn. My ideal lover needs to communicate better than that, it's one of the things that led to our divorce. The act of making love is much more than simply having sex.

Men aren't mind readers, they are problem solvers, and our women need to let us know when something bothers them or it won't get fixed.

It sucks don't it?
 
An Ideal lover to me is;

Someone you look at, you can see IT in their eyes. Eyes that make you melt.

Then the kiss can tell it all. You can feel it in your stomach. (some say, it feels like butterflies).

The feeling of the touch. That makes you respond.
 
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