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Hello All, any feedback you can offer would be appreciated.
What are your opinions, particularly from those of you that are experienced, in the long term affects of AS use and the heart? I am a newby by the way : Age 34, 5'9, 234, at about 20% BF and am considering doing 1st cycle next spring having hit my natural peak on size and strength. (am currently getting over a back injury) Posts in the past have said that AS adds "stress" to our systems. The subject of high blood pressure while "on" has been addressed, mostly the high number being elevated, then declining back to the "normal" range after coming off. This could be controlled with close monitoring and adding meds to control the high BP temporarily to control this problem. If most high BP is caused from water retention then strong anti E's could be administered at the beginning of cycle and/ or possibly be avoided by staying away from the ones that are known to cause them (for ex. d-bol) Some say they don't want to go to sleep and have a hard time getting to sleep while on. This question is mainly for long term affects on the heart, like doing 10 - 15 cycles over a period of several years. The fact that everyone is different and might have a tendency toward certain sides due to genetics is a given. One would think that if cholesterol numbers were unfavorable while on (elevated LDL and HDL lowered) then overall affect would be minimal if it was only for a short time like 8-10 weeks. But if we look at this happening say twice a year for 10 years, collectively this could be a problematic. If we specifically look at adult onset arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) could it be that we are speeding up the process? In studying homocysteine I came across an example of a tribe of herders (goats I think) that had almost non-existant heart disease even though 90% of their diet consisted of milk. When they did autopsies on them, they found they had plaque filled arteries but because they exercised so much (walked like 10 or 20 miles a day herding) they had INCREASED their artery sizes and therefore allowed their blood flow to be normal or above normal and had no symtoms their whole lives. Maybe this is what happens to us. Due to continuous exercise, we are increasing our artery circumference thus delaying or wiping out any symtoms. Some have said that if it was not for AS, they would be doing other things that would be far more hazardous to their bodies. This is a good point for many. With the understanding that different AS goes through different pathways and can be unique in the way they help us to add muscle or decrease fat in our bodies, generally what can we do to combat the negatives on our cardiovascular systems? A clean diet and supps? (ex. omega3s, COQ10, folic acid, b vitamins) We all should be doing this anyway. Sorry for the long post.
What are your opinions, particularly from those of you that are experienced, in the long term affects of AS use and the heart? I am a newby by the way : Age 34, 5'9, 234, at about 20% BF and am considering doing 1st cycle next spring having hit my natural peak on size and strength. (am currently getting over a back injury) Posts in the past have said that AS adds "stress" to our systems. The subject of high blood pressure while "on" has been addressed, mostly the high number being elevated, then declining back to the "normal" range after coming off. This could be controlled with close monitoring and adding meds to control the high BP temporarily to control this problem. If most high BP is caused from water retention then strong anti E's could be administered at the beginning of cycle and/ or possibly be avoided by staying away from the ones that are known to cause them (for ex. d-bol) Some say they don't want to go to sleep and have a hard time getting to sleep while on. This question is mainly for long term affects on the heart, like doing 10 - 15 cycles over a period of several years. The fact that everyone is different and might have a tendency toward certain sides due to genetics is a given. One would think that if cholesterol numbers were unfavorable while on (elevated LDL and HDL lowered) then overall affect would be minimal if it was only for a short time like 8-10 weeks. But if we look at this happening say twice a year for 10 years, collectively this could be a problematic. If we specifically look at adult onset arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) could it be that we are speeding up the process? In studying homocysteine I came across an example of a tribe of herders (goats I think) that had almost non-existant heart disease even though 90% of their diet consisted of milk. When they did autopsies on them, they found they had plaque filled arteries but because they exercised so much (walked like 10 or 20 miles a day herding) they had INCREASED their artery sizes and therefore allowed their blood flow to be normal or above normal and had no symtoms their whole lives. Maybe this is what happens to us. Due to continuous exercise, we are increasing our artery circumference thus delaying or wiping out any symtoms. Some have said that if it was not for AS, they would be doing other things that would be far more hazardous to their bodies. This is a good point for many. With the understanding that different AS goes through different pathways and can be unique in the way they help us to add muscle or decrease fat in our bodies, generally what can we do to combat the negatives on our cardiovascular systems? A clean diet and supps? (ex. omega3s, COQ10, folic acid, b vitamins) We all should be doing this anyway. Sorry for the long post.
