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The Drug War Had To Fail

spentagn said:


What is the purpose of any law if they aren't enforced?



Rather silly scenario, but, you deserve punishment for willingly breaking the law.



Bad laws shouldn't be enforced, they should be thrown out.

Not being able to smoke out is silly too. That's my point.
 
2Thick said:
The funny thing is that it is true!

That's why it's funny.

You should use this as your avatar for today:
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Certain drugs should be legalized. I dont think that drugs like marijuana or mushrooms should be illegal, but heroin, etc. probably should. It all depends on how you look at psychoactive substances in general.

At first, I had a fairly closed mind against drugs. But I think that when most people try something like marijuana and realize that it isnt the 'killer' substance or gateway drug most have made it out to be, their stance on drugs changes. Also, becoming more educated on drugs can change your perspective. After reading through the Erowid Vaults, I've realized that most drugs arent really all that bad. Thank God whoever put up that site did, because it's probably saved many more lives than you'd think. If you want to check it out, you can here:

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml
 
Doktor Bollix said:
Well our trusty allies the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan have heroin refineries and warehouses along the Uzbek border. They have 250,000 lbs of refined heroin that they have stashed, so as to keep prices in the European markets high. Stockpiling was rampant when the Taliban banned the production of the opium poppy (to drive up the value of their own stockpiles).

I bet we don't get involved. Even though they are a puppet regime of ours. So much for the war on drugs. Hopefully it won't be like in Vietnam when Air America was used to courier heroin to the US to finance off the books operations.


This is a perfect scenario to represent the true goal of a "Drug War", or by criminalizing certain drugs in general. The Drug War, just as the movement and sale of drugs, is a huge money-making operation. Of course there are a huge quantity of drugs entering the USA every year. Is that what the USA Government wants? Yes. If all of the drugs were intertcepted before they made it to the streets of the USA, it would inflict an econmomic A-bomb on the USA economy, considering that so many paychecks ride on the fact that they DO get to the Streets. Think of how many aspects of society directly profit from the fact that there are illegal drugs on the streets. Cops, Lawyers, Private companies that build prisons, People that work in prisons, rehab workers, etc. These areas of employmeny started to boom after the Reagan administration expanded the USAs "War on Drugs" in the early 1980's, and represent a signifigant amount of tax dollars for the Government. Just like the sale of heroin was used to finance the USAs interests during the Vietnam War, the prosecution of drug crimes are used to fuel the USAs enonomic intersts here at home, i.e Tax Dollars & Employment created on the premise and acceptance that drugs(and people that use them) deserve to be imprisoned. People that buy into the fact that the Government wants this Country to be "drug free" are morons who I would like to sell the Brooklyn Bridge to quite frankly. The US Government though, banks on the fact that they can & will be able to BRAINWASH a signifigant section of the population into believing that "drug free" is their true agenda. Those people who buy into their agenda call themselves "anti drug". I call them narrow minded.
 
How can you "win" a war on drugs when the very people trying to put you in jail for doing drugs have bosses and higher ups that contribute to the drug flow in this country? There is corruption at every level from the ground up, that is a given and when large amounts of money are involved in the mix like with drugs you have MASSIVE corruption. There are many politicians and parts of the government that are directly responsible or indirectly responsible for importing coke and heroin into the US, so the whole "drug war" is a big smoke mask anyway. It is sad that the majority of Americans really buy into it. Sheep.

People in jail for weed is RETARDED, I dont care if it is a million tons. Make it a fine to have less than 100 pounds or something, but why waste our jail space and taxpayer money on this bullshit. Do you realize that if you are a Mexican and smuggle less than 100 pounds over the border and get caught that they just send you back. Now what happens if you have that much as a US citizen? Long jail term thats what. It is hard to imagine that in the year 2002 we are sending people to prison for this. Absurd in fact!

Bottom line: people will always do drugs, drugs will always exist until we have a "perfect" society which will never happen anyway. All of these drug policies are simply election bargaining chips politicos use to gain power with voters. Once all these old thinking backwards people die off I can only hope that we have some fresh thinkers that will realize what a fucking waste of money and people this BS drug war is. I spoke with an ex-DEA agent once for some time about his thought on this. It was fascinating. He said the whole thing was a total sham and he regretted wasting his life in such a futile manner. It is akin to plugging a planet size hole with your finger. When will America WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! if you answered never, you win the prize!
 
I agree, Xerxes, you have to follow the money on every issue, and the smart money is making a fortune on both sides of the drug war. There's just no percentage in any other approach to the issue, and until their kid gets 5 years for dealing acid Ma and Pa Sixpack are cool with it.
 
Code said:


I think it works just fine, crack dealers, pot smokers adn the ilk all know the consequences of their actions.

who are you to decide that i should face consequences for smoking pot?

don't be so ignorant.
 
it is not ignorance, it is arrogance.

fucking cloud castle conservatives at it again.

protect us from theft of land, liberty, or property. don't protect us from ourselves, no matter how retarded we may be.
 
Just say no.

Yeah right. The drug war is the worst example of government abuse of the citizenry in this country to date. (I suspect that when it is all said and done, the "war" on terror will surpass it)

Did Prohibition work? Nope. So why does anyone believe that this will?

Somewhere along the way, we got hit with propaganda that said "drugs are bad ".

It probably went like this: drugs are bad. drugs are bad. drugs are bad. And just for good measure, some commericals with eggs and a frying pan were thrown in too.

People should be made aware of the physiological consequences of drug use. Repeated use a "E" can reduce memory capacity. Long term use of coke can really fuck up your septum, and cause heart problems.

But at the end of the day, I don't need the government telling me what to do with my body. Those are choices only I should make. I can't believe some of you are so brainwashed as to believe that the government should regulate what you do, or do not do, to your own body

The drug war, like so many other policies, is about

1. state revenue

2, incarcerating poor people

3. dividing the citizenry (drug users must be "bad". Good little sheep don't do drugs)
 
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