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the ** anavar debate

Re: Well Decem, i used his Var and liked it

Jeff_rys said:
they swallow the pills instead of chewing them. So the problem is in their corner, not in China.

you gotta point there.. and i don't remember anyone asking these folks who've been reporting bad results if they've been chewing them or not..


hhmmmmmmm....:confused:
 
I took his anavar and had great strength gains along with cutting up. Didn't gain much weight, didn't want to. I have to stay in a certain weight class.
 
I've been out of the loop for awhile guys but I have had previous experience with Chinese Anavar and all I have to say is they surpassed my expectations. I bought enough for 12 weeks but due to an injury(not related to weightlifting) I only used them for about 6 weeks. I noticed a difference on day 4 and it continued throughout the 6 weeks. I added 10lbs on my bench the first week and then 5lbs every week after. I could have added more than 5lbs but I didn't want to push it since tendons can't keep up with muscle growth, least while on AS.

I was so bummed out when I had to stop as I was making awesome gains, getting leaner and I could totally see change in that short time. For the record I followed the instruction he explicity gives in which to CHEW the tabs because I can contest they are extremely dense and hard packed. I've read reports of people not chewing them and seeing them in the toilet the next day. If this isn't proof of the need to chew them then I don't know what is.

Also I was following all of the other recommendations; daily creatine and glutamine, high protein intake (50% of cals or about 300+ grams a day), lots of sleep, etc.. The only side effect I noticed was a tad bit of acne towards the end which I quickly got under control with more frequent face washing. All in all it was an awesome 6 week ride that I was disheartened to see end.

I am going to start up this cycle again on Monday and have enough left for about 5-6 weeks and expect similar, actually better results due to atrophy that has occured and muscle memory that should kick in.

I had planned on getting some more from him to continue past what supply I have and seems there's still controvery regarding his product quality. All I can say is that if it's as good as it was for me 6 months ago then it is top notch. However I can't verify if he has been releasing less potent pills as of late.

BTW I was using the 10mg pills and taking 4 a day.
 
i haven't seen any significant gains using **'s stuff. i chewed them and took 4 a day. after first week=nothing........after second week=nothing............third week nothing. i don't want to dawg his stuff out but just want to let the bro's out there know what it did for me. IMO.

Bulldawg
 
Bulldawg96 How long ago did you order yours? must very from batch to batch? and or person to person. MY personal experience is the first time I added them into my cycle (didnt chew) I was let down and pissed that I ordered 1000, dont think they did crap. Second time around using it alone (third week on 40mg ed chewing ) Iam seeing some results bench is up, hella pumps. So will the speculation ever stop I dought it. IMOP Yenko
 
Re: Sorry, but they are wrong Genarr

Jeff_rys said:
I told this over and over and over. The Spanish red/white 5 mgr caps contain 2 different components. They give severe prostate problems (which real Anavar does not do). As for results, they do give results but NOT better results then the Chinese 10 mgr tabs.
In fact the opposite. In my case the Chinese gave me an extra boost.
For once and for all: BTG's and SPA rule. The rest comes after BUT Ttokkyo or the Brazilian or the Chinese or the Spanish (if you get the real deal) will produce the same results.

Furthermore if using Mexican vet gear, one might as well use the Chinese injectables.

Anyway, this is not a definitive answer as asked, the discussion will go on and on and on.

It is very simple. This is a individual thing. If you use his products and you like them, use them more, if you don't like them, then don't.
The Fonz had the Spanish generic tested in a lab, I've seen the post and the results and have no idea of what you're talking about. "give severe prostate problems" - I've not heard of this? How do you know this?
 
Re: Re: Sorry, but they are wrong Genarr

genarr3 said:

The Fonz had the Spanish generic tested in a lab, I've seen the post and the results and have no idea of what you're talking about. "give severe prostate problems" - I've not heard of this? How do you know this?

genarr, jeff_rys is talking about the red/white 5mg ox. Fonz did this on another person's ox which is 10mg.
 
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