the ** anavar debate

[gunslinger11]

arite can we get a definative anser on this. one post i hear its great the next its shit. sum1 help me and the others out. please those who have used it post your results and your opinion i wanted it in my cycle but now im not sure if its shit. can we PLEASE GET A OPINION FROM ALL USERS!!!

thanx

 

[decem]

i'm planning on using it in upcoming cycle as well.. but there has definitely been some pretty shitty reports the past two days regarding it's effectiveness..

making me think twice about it..

 

[genarr3]

People seem to like the Spanish generic better.

 

[Jeff_rys]

Sorry, but they are wrong Genarr

I told this over and over and over. The Spanish red/white 5 mgr caps contain 2 different components. They give severe prostate problems (which real Anavar does not do). As for results, they do give results but NOT better results then the Chinese 10 mgr tabs.
In fact the opposite. In my case the Chinese gave me an extra boost.
For once and for all: BTG's and SPA rule. The rest comes after BUT Ttokkyo or the Brazilian or the Chinese or the Spanish (if you get the real deal) will produce the same results.

Furthermore if using Mexican vet gear, one might as well use the Chinese injectables.

Anyway, this is not a definitive answer as asked, the discussion will go on and on and on.

It is very simple. This is a individual thing. If you use his products and you like them, use them more, if you don't like them, then don't.

 

[Sleepy]

Each person has a different opinion. try it yourself and you decide. i used them and liked them.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i used his winny tabs and enjoyed them, but for the summer i want to get some of his anavar as well, so bump for more feedback

 

[decem]

um jeff.. i think your post is a little off dude..

this thread isn't so much about whether you think one should use it or not.. but rather if they produce results and if his recent batches have been legit or not..

i love his winny... as do most..

but then again.. there are other products of his.. i.e. a-bombs.. which most believe is just plain old crappy..

i'm hoping that his var isn't going to the dark side along with the drol.. and hopefully these most recent occurrences in the possible ineffectiveness of his var are just isolated occurrences.

so i would like to hear some more reports from those who have used some of his latest batches.. to see if these were indeed isolated.. or if there is a trend going on..

so......................BUMP

 

[manny78]

Instead of posting thousands of threads about his anavar why dont you people just wait for the results of the lab tests performed on his products ?

 

[Jeff_rys]

Well Decem, i used his Var and liked it

used his Tren and liked it (pain in the ass), but results where there.
Now i am using his GH but it is too soon to tell, also i am only using 2 IU because of a money problem. So i use the GH for anti-aging, boosting the system and if results do come, that would be great.

Don't know for any other product, so it is not for me to tell how good or bad these are.

Some people complain because results lack, but they swallow the pills instead of chewing them. So the problem is in their corner, not in China.


But you are right, i am a little off topic.

 

[decem]

Instead of posting thousands of threads about his anavar why dont you people just wait for the results of the lab tests performed on his products ?

um... any idear as to when they're coming out?

 

[decem]

Re: Well Decem, i used his Var and liked it

they swallow the pills instead of chewing them. So the problem is in their corner, not in China.

you gotta point there.. and i don't remember anyone asking these folks who've been reporting bad results if they've been chewing them or not..


hhmmmmmmm....

 

[gunslinger11]

BUMP for more shit

 

[Nico Cujo]

I took his anavar and had great strength gains along with cutting up. Didn't gain much weight, didn't want to. I have to stay in a certain weight class.

 

[Vageta]

I've been out of the loop for awhile guys but I have had previous experience with Chinese Anavar and all I have to say is they surpassed my expectations. I bought enough for 12 weeks but due to an injury(not related to weightlifting) I only used them for about 6 weeks. I noticed a difference on day 4 and it continued throughout the 6 weeks. I added 10lbs on my bench the first week and then 5lbs every week after. I could have added more than 5lbs but I didn't want to push it since tendons can't keep up with muscle growth, least while on AS.

I was so bummed out when I had to stop as I was making awesome gains, getting leaner and I could totally see change in that short time. For the record I followed the instruction he explicity gives in which to CHEW the tabs because I can contest they are extremely dense and hard packed. I've read reports of people not chewing them and seeing them in the toilet the next day. If this isn't proof of the need to chew them then I don't know what is.

Also I was following all of the other recommendations; daily creatine and glutamine, high protein intake (50% of cals or about 300+ grams a day), lots of sleep, etc.. The only side effect I noticed was a tad bit of acne towards the end which I quickly got under control with more frequent face washing. All in all it was an awesome 6 week ride that I was disheartened to see end.

I am going to start up this cycle again on Monday and have enough left for about 5-6 weeks and expect similar, actually better results due to atrophy that has occured and muscle memory that should kick in.

I had planned on getting some more from him to continue past what supply I have and seems there's still controvery regarding his product quality. All I can say is that if it's as good as it was for me 6 months ago then it is top notch. However I can't verify if he has been releasing less potent pills as of late.

BTW I was using the 10mg pills and taking 4 a day.

 

[bulldawg96]

i haven't seen any significant gains using **'s stuff. i chewed them and took 4 a day. after first week=nothing........after second week=nothing............third week nothing. i don't want to dawg his stuff out but just want to let the bro's out there know what it did for me. IMO.

Bulldawg

 

[Yenko]

Bulldawg96 How long ago did you order yours? must very from batch to batch? and or person to person. MY personal experience is the first time I added them into my cycle (didnt chew) I was let down and pissed that I ordered 1000, dont think they did crap. Second time around using it alone (third week on 40mg ed chewing ) Iam seeing some results bench is up, hella pumps. So will the speculation ever stop I dought it. IMOP Yenko

 

[genarr3]

Re: Sorry, but they are wrong Genarr

I told this over and over and over. The Spanish red/white 5 mgr caps contain 2 different components. They give severe prostate problems (which real Anavar does not do). As for results, they do give results but NOT better results then the Chinese 10 mgr tabs.
In fact the opposite. In my case the Chinese gave me an extra boost.
For once and for all: BTG's and SPA rule. The rest comes after BUT Ttokkyo or the Brazilian or the Chinese or the Spanish (if you get the real deal) will produce the same results.

Furthermore if using Mexican vet gear, one might as well use the Chinese injectables.

Anyway, this is not a definitive answer as asked, the discussion will go on and on and on.

It is very simple. This is a individual thing. If you use his products and you like them, use them more, if you don't like them, then don't.

The Fonz had the Spanish generic tested in a lab, I've seen the post and the results and have no idea of what you're talking about. "give severe prostate problems" - I've not heard of this? How do you know this?

 

[manny78]

um... any idear as to when they're coming out?

in about a month.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Re: Re: Sorry, but they are wrong Genarr

The Fonz had the Spanish generic tested in a lab, I've seen the post and the results and have no idea of what you're talking about. "give severe prostate problems" - I've not heard of this? How do you know this?

genarr, jeff_rys is talking about the red/white 5mg ox. Fonz did this on another person's ox which is 10mg.

 

[genarr3]

Ok, thanks Tex.

 

[joey10j]

his fucken anavars fucked up my cycle cause i'm using it with his eq, and my forearms hurt sooo much i can't bench, do military presses, or any triceps motions. i had to stop today

 

[V-SHAPE 2]

Are the lab results on treida yet????

 

[Jeff_rys]

Re: Re: Sorry, but they are wrong Genarr

The Fonz had the Spanish generic tested in a lab, I've seen the post and the results and have no idea of what you're talking about. "give severe prostate problems" - I've not heard of this? How do you know this?

I know this because i have bought and used them. I did get severe prostate problems on day 5. Then when using them 2 months later, the same. I am talking about the red/white caps of 5 mgr, not the other Spanish. I do have some 30-40 caps left, but am not taking them. So i can send samples to anyone, feel free to test them.
I was doing Ox alone. When taking 120 mgr Chinese instead of 50 mgr with the Spanish, still no prostate problems. Gains went up with the Chinese, but i took more a day. Doing 50, 60, 80 ,120 a day.

Also maybe Fonz had the real thing. Furthermore the Spanish taste different. I opened the cap and did taste the stuff. It tastes bitter and bittersweet, so 2 components.

 

[OMEGALOS]

da var

Here's my take on Anavar...
Anavar is best used in my opinion as a bridge in low to moderate dosages (15-25mg). It is effective this way in aiding in the elimination of fat while dieting. Many people like me do "bulking" cycles on which we gain a good amt. of mass but however a nice few pounds of fat and water as well in the meanwhile. When your ready to get rid of the unwanted Anavar will help you retain you mass, look hard and full(and even aid fat loss), while you are in you cutting-bridge phase. In these dosages it doesnt really affect your HPTA axis to any significant degree, and after your cycle youre prob should be using HCG , clomid, nolvadex, proviron to stimulate your nat test back to normal anyhow.
For those looking to get madly insanely huge off anavar...forget it! Its not that kind of animal , if thats what youre looking for stick with dbols or drols.
Nice combo I like it 1 primo/wk, 6-10 BTG 2.5 mg anavars/day, and 2- 25mg Provirons/day for a bridge that works as a cutting cycle as well, and at the same time keeps your shit working good, helping your swimmers too.