Thanks Nelson...(ZIP Feedback)

[MrMakaveli]

Assuming I'm allowed to post this since PF is a sponser?

My mother was diagnosed sub-clinical hypo a few months back and t-4 had great effects on her mood but did nothing for weight gain. I put her on ZIP! and honestly her energy and fat-loss have been NOTHING short of amazing.

Her blood tests show she actuallly is in HIGH-Normal for thyroid range now as opposed to her previous tests which showed low levels of thyroid hormone.

ZIP! is no joke people.

 

[atutt2]

Wow! Glad to hear since I just ordered some yesterday!
This s*** better work, and not just another psudo-science
supplement. I'll post my results.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Assuming I'm allowed to post this since PF is a sponser?

My mother was diagnosed sub-clinical hypo a few months back and t-4 had great effects on her mood but did nothing for weight gain. I put her on ZIP! and honestly her energy and fat-loss have been NOTHING short of amazing.

Her blood tests show she actuallly is in HIGH-Normal for thyroid range now as opposed to her previous tests which showed low levels of thyroid hormone.

ZIP! is no joke people.

That is great bro. Really glad to hear it.

I knew I was taking a chance with ZIP in that it wasn't the typical thermogenic. It doesn't get you super jacked or supress appitite -- which is the cause of the (temporary) weight loss from central nervous system stimulents. In other words, thermogenics are the one supplement you can "feel" but that doesn't mean it's doing what it's supposed to do. If they did, we'd all be lean because we've all used them.

You can feel ZIP too, but it's more in the line of having more energry -- not being artificially stimulated. If you train hard and have your diet in check ZIP will imcrease the amount of fat burned results between 20-40 percent since your thyroid will be utilizing more fat for fuel. THAT, I believe, is a much more logical approach to permanent fat loss.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Does ZIP cause catabolism the way t3 does?

 

[DANABOLIC55]

Sorry...but ZIP has done zip for me. Even on a slight CKD and with my regimen of Muay Thai 3 times a week. I guess I'm a ZIP non responder.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Big Rick: ZIP is non supressive. It'll just make your thyroid wok at full efficiency but not push it beyond that.

DANABOLICS: How long did you use it? To be honest, the CKD is a bad choice because a diet too low in carbs will actually supress the thyroid. Give it another shot and just increase your training output. It should definetely help.

 

[DANABOLIC55]

Big Rick: ZIP is non supressive. It'll just make your thyroid wok at full efficiency but not push it beyond that.

DANABOLICS: How long did you use it? To be honest, the CKD is a bad choice because a diet too low in carbs will actually supress the thyroid. Give it another shot and just increase your training output. It should definetely help.

About to end bottle 3. I did have 40 grams carbs every morning via oatmeal. Now, I have carbs w/ evey meal via yams/ oats or brown rice. Still, no noticeable changes. The carbs started with bottle 3. I usually just use an ECA thermo for cutting but decided to give it a try. Dunno??????

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Big Rick: ZIP is non supressive. It'll just make your thyroid wok at full efficiency but not push it beyond that.

Will it eat away at muscle mass like T3 will is the question. . . ?
T3 used without anabolic just seems to make you loose muscle along with mass... I was wondering is ZIP would have the same results.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Will it eat away at muscle mass like T3 will is the question. . . ?
T3 used without anabolic just seems to make you loose muscle along with mass... I was wondering is ZIP would have the same results.

I can't see it eating away at muscle mass any more than that of a person who is naturally lean. (People who are lean tend to have high thyroid output).

DANA: How'd the diet go in general? Did you not lose as much as you did with other thermos and that's the comparison (But of course, with thermos, you almost always gain all of it back) Are you at your maximum low BF or are you still overweight? Maybe your thyroid is already at full throttle. It's hard to say.

 

[DANABOLIC55]

Overweight-no- sitting at about 10%. Started at 10 as well. I did notice the heat after heavier carb meals. You're right about the weight gain coming off of thermos- that's why I went to zip. I usually get ripped everywhere except for the lower abs off of thermos. I know 10% is not bad, just not where I wanna be.

 

[atutt2]

...I know 10% is not bad, just not where I wanna be.

Dude, I would love to be back at 10% again. Haven't been there in 3 years or so. Damn old age. Once you hit 30, that shit just doesn't want to come off.

 

[mt]

DANABOLICS: To be honest, the CKD is a bad choice because a diet too low in carbs will actually supress the thyroid.

That's one of the reasons I'm considering trying it. Will ZIP keep the thyroid going full bore while on low carbs? Will it make sense to use T3 while on a low carb diet and then while tapering off the T3 use ZIP to get your thyroid back up to speed?

 

[DANABOLIC55]

Dude, I would love to be back at 10% again. Haven't been there in 3 years or so. Damn old age. Once you hit 30, that shit just doesn't want to come off.

Maybe that's my problem- I turned 30 a few months ago.

 

[atutt2]

Maybe that's my problem- I turned 30 a few months ago.

Ah...welcome to the "old man's club"!

 

[Nelson Montana]

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