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Testosterone Rules, All Other Steroids Suck

Big Wes

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To me this makes no sense. When we take steroids do we not mostly want the anabolic effect, to build muscle mass through nitrogen retension,and protein storage. So lets say I take a steroid like Equipoise buy it'self for 15 weeks at 400mg per week, With proper PCT at the end of the cycle.


You mean to tell me if diet is on the ball I won't make very good gains
and that it's a waste of money. No water retension no bloat, no need for antiestrogens during a cycle. and gains will be easy to keep. I don't know about you guys but have you ever seen a race horse up close. Talk about quality muscle my god, and vascular to. If it works for the horse it should work for us humans.

Now whats great about the androgen side of the coin. Other than fat loss,and sex drive. Not to much in my opinion, water retension, acne, hair loss, and a whole list of other problems. Not to mention the extra cost just to control these side effects. Don't get me wrong I have built alot of muscle over the years using Test, Dianabol and other strong androgens. But I was thinking, after using these compounds, and shedding all the water after a cycle. You are basicly getting rid of the androgenic aspect of the drug you were taking. So if that's the case what your left with is the anabolic side of the coin or new muscle growth. So what's the point in using androgenic
steroids.

I don't know maybe i'm crazy. What do you guys think.
 
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Actually, agree with both points of view. Test is the king. But there are also some other very nifty anabolics out there. A combo, with test as the base anabolic is my fave. :)
 
The point mant fail to realize when discussing testosteron is that while it is highly androgenic,it is also VERY anabolic. It is less anabolic compared to say var when looked at in a androgen/anabolic ratio per se. but in actuallity it has a much more anabolic effect on muscle than Anavar. Anavar looks more anabolic at first glance but in actuallity this is false. Tren is actually more androgenic than test, it just does not aromatize BTW.

Quad

Hope that made sense. I smoked some KEERRRONIC! :p
Big Wes said:
To me this makes no sense. When we take steroids do we not mostly want the anabolic effect, to build muscle mass through nitrogen retension,and protein storage. So lets say I take a steroid like Equipoise buy it'self for 15 weeks at 400mg per week, With proper PCT at the end of the cycle.


You mean to tell me if diet is on the ball I won't make very good gains
and that it's a waste of money. No water retension no bloat, no need for antiestrogens during a cycle. and gains will be easy to keep. I don't know about you guys but have you ever seen a race horse up close. Talk about quality muscle my god, and vascular to. If it works for the horse it should work for us humans.

Now whats great about the androgen side of the coin. Other than fat loss,and sex drive. Not to much in my opinion, water retension, acne, hair loss, and a whole list of other problems. Not to mention the extra cost just to control these side effects. Don't get me wrong I have built alot of muscle over the years using Test, Dianabol and other strong androgens. But I was thinking, after using these compounds, and shedding all the water after a cycle. You are basicly getting rid of the androgenic aspect of the drug you were taking. So if that's the case what your left with is the anabolic side of the coin or new muscle growth.

I don't know maybe i'm crazy. What do you guys think.
 
Quadsweep said:
The point mant fail to realize when discussing testosteron is that while it is highly androgenic,it is also VERY anabolic. It is less anabolic compared to say var when looked at in a androgen/anabolic ratio per se. but in actuallity it has a much more anabolic effect on muscle than Anavar. Anavar looks more anabolic at first glance but in actuallity this is false. Tren is actually more androgenic than test, it just does not aromatize BTW.

Quad

Hope that made sense. I smoked some KEERRRONIC! :p


drugs are bad.....mmmmmkkkkkkayyyy
 
i need an AI to run test, but aromasin soes the job nice!

test+abomb's rule!!!!!!!!!!
 
people overlook the value of androgenic action, CNS potentials in particular.


nandrolone provides some additional benefits, and side effects, because of its progestenic nature.
 
I have done a lot of research on Equipoise, Because I use it alot. I used to use deca but not anymore. As far as size, Deca seems to put on more mass than equipoise, due to more water retension. Same with testosterone, same with dianabol and anadrol. the interesting thing I found out is that Equipoise is just as anabolic as Testosterone.
But acts differant in the body. What I'm going to do is an experiment. If equipoise is as anabolic as testosterone, once i shed the water weight after taking test will I be left with the same gains as taking equipoise alone. considering there is no water retension.

What do you guys think.
 
I don't think you can possibly put on as much size using eq as you can NPP. Not even close. Same goes for test. As far as water retention from test goes, that's only if you're goofy enough to use it without an AI. If you use Aromasin or AIFM you won't have water retention to worry about.
Your premise of "have you ever seen a racehorse close up" is misplaced. Eq is not approved for use in the US so if you see a racehorse it's not on Eq.
If you want a steroid that is made for animals that will make you look like one then tren ace is a better solution than Eq is.
 
nandrolone phenylpropionate boys and girls. even better with some high quality winstrol such as BD or GL. next time i will try 300mg NPP E3d with 50mg winstrol. last cycle i did was 200mg npp E3D with 50mg winstrol and the gains were so lean and good i realize you dont need others compound to grow. i belive test will make you grow like nothing else,but the sides with it are not worth, at least not for me.
 
I don’t care about the androgen/anabolic ratio, everyone is different, and all gear affects all people differently.


You may get the result you are looking for on Test, and I may get the results I am looking for on primo.

Personally I like test as a base gear for every and any cycle I do.
 
If you read the bible it is very, very clear God only made race horses simply and only as a means to glue.

I hate horses and love the Chinese because they are smart enough to eat the stupid animals.
 
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