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The answer is: C
There is no exogenous testosterone dosage that would compare, there would be no purpose in administering 10mg testosterone injections.
The minimum testosterone dosage for muscle growth and/or enhancement of life quality, is around 150mgs per week.
Actually, the recomened beginner dose is 100 mgs every 2 weeks . The "standard" after that is 100mgs a week. That, of course, is if you still produce SOME T naturally. (Which some people might say doesn't occur on HRT but that's a debate for another time).
A very loose estimate would be that each mg of exo test will increase levels by 4 ngs.
I've been on 100 mgs a week for the last 4 years and my T always comes in around 900 mgs.
And of course, what really matters is the amount of actual AVAILABLE test, and that's where either proviron and/or UNLEASHED comes in. But you can't stay on proviron forever.
That makes no sense, how does you blood come back at 900mg?? You mean NG/DL??
Again, if your levels are 900ng/dl you are not experiencing supraphysiological muscle growth, perhaps an increase in libido.
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Big_BK
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He's on HRT ross, not a cycle to gain mass.
I hate to get into the middle of this but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing two educated and experienced people like Nelson and Ross have this discussion. For Nelson's sake, I'm sure he means 900 ng/dl. Knowing that Nelson is of, how do I say this nicely, middle age, I would say that 900 ng/dl would be considered well above average and should lead to his ability to continue to gain muscle at a noticeable rate.
In regards to Free T, my experience has been that higher levels of total T have a direct correlation to Free T. So raise your total T however you want, Free T will follow. Any disagreements? Would love to get more in depth if you both would care to do so.
In regards to Free T, my experience has been that higher levels of total T have a direct correlation to Free T. So raise your total T however you want, Free T will follow. Any disagreements? Would love to get more in depth if you both would care to do so.
Nelson was just making shit up again for the sake of trying to win an argument, the dude has an enormously unjustified EGO.
J/K, but if Nelson is being honest, 900ng/dl is not supraphysiological by any means and will not provide muscle or strength gains, although it will probably increase his libido--IF those numbers he reported are indeed accurate. I am sure he will be able to have enjoyable workouts, but that is not an optimal HRT dosage for a recreational bodybuilder. If you are using HRT SOLEY for quality of life, then Nelson's dosing protocol could be valid.
As for Free Testosterone, everyone will always have a different ratio of Total:Free T. In addition, SHBG levels increase for numerous reasons, and by reducing circulating levels of SHBG, we can further increase FREE T in the body, which generates a PROFOUND effect ESPECIALLY when using supraphysiological dosages of testosterone. For this reason, Test(2) + Proviron(1) = MAGIC(4). That is the beauty of SYNERGISM.
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Big_BK
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Ross i think your missing the point. HRT is not about making gains. HRT is about restoring an imbalance of hormones.
Re-read my above post my man.
HRT for recreational bodybuilders is not about restoring an imbalance of hormones--it's about going BEYOND restoring that imbalance and increasing the quality of your physique.
I suggest 150mgs per week to all of my friends and colleagues as the MINIMUM HRT dosage, if you are an avid gym-goer.
Greatercow
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ok heres something i dont get about hrt .. its prescribed by the doc.. so doesnt this means you dont get to choose the amount of test you get each week? or you guys just get the prescribed pharm grade and then add some ug stuff to it
If you have a good relationship with your doctor you can determine what is best for your personal lifestyle.
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Big_BK
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I know but what im getting at is not everyone is a recreational BBer so thats not the medical aim for it. I see where you are going tho bro.
You can suggest anything you want, you still don't know what you're talking about.
Yes, ay my age I'm not looking to get any bigger. I'm looking to maintain my muscle and the HRT provides that. And having 900 ngs of T allows for that since it's what a healthy 30 year old would put out. So what you're suggesting has nothing to do with anything.
Nelson was just making shit up again for the sake of trying to win an argument, the dude has an enormously unjustified EGO.
J/K, but if Nelson is being honest, 900ng/dl is not supraphysiological by any means and will not provide muscle or strength gains, although it will probably increase his libido--IF those numbers he reported are indeed accurate. I am sure he will be able to have enjoyable workouts, but that is not an optimal HRT dosage for a recreational bodybuilder. If you are using HRT SOLEY for quality of life, then Nelson's dosing protocol could be valid.
As for Free Testosterone, everyone will always have a different ratio of Total:Free T. In addition, SHBG levels increase for numerous reasons, and by reducing circulating levels of SHBG, we can further increase FREE T in the body, which generates a PROFOUND effect ESPECIALLY when using supraphysiological dosages of testosterone. For this reason, Test(2) + Proviron(1) = MAGIC(4). That is the beauty of SYNERGISM.
It's not Nelson with the big ego bro...I see a pattern in your posts....you might want to tone it down a little and be friendly....just because Nelson doesn't agree with your posts, doesn't mean he's got ego issues and knows nothing about the topic.
jassdhali
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Although my ultimate aim for me was re-addressing my hormone imbalance I am an avid gym goer as I have always had weight issues.
However since on the Sust I have changed my routine, I am hitting the weights 75% of the time and have been on a routine for the last 5 weeks and noticed that I have more size than I have ever had in this time frame, so definetely a good by product.
Currently on Sust100 E7D but changing to E4D due to to many highs & lows in my mood.
Proviron I am doing every day, but will go to E2D.
However since on the Sust I have changed my routine, I am hitting the weights 75% of the time and have been on a routine for the last 5 weeks and noticed that I have more size than I have ever had in this time frame, so definetely a good by product.
Currently on Sust100 E7D but changing to E4D due to to many highs & lows in my mood.
Proviron I am doing every day, but will go to E2D.
True, but I'd clarify one thing. Total test is total test. If one guy has more, that just means his exogenous T is higher. He's still putting some out. (Though how much longer on 200 mgs is uncertain). It's the FREE test that varies WILDLY from one individual to another. You can have lower total T and still have more growth porential is the FREE T is higher.
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