Testing my Testosterone Levels at the Lab

[fitwizard]

I'm on this cycle: (first one)

WK1 20dbol ed, 250sust, 100deca
WK2 30dbol ed, 500sust, 300deca
WK3 40dbol ed, 500sust, 300deca
WK4 40dbol ed, 700sust, 300deca
WK5 500sust, 300deca -------> I'm in the middle of week 5
WK6 500sust, 300deca
WK7 500sust, 300deca
WK8 500sust, 300deca
WK9 500sust, 300deca
WK10 500sust, 300deca
Arimidex 0.25mg ed

Except for great pumps after about 2 weeks into the cycle,
and great strength gains followed, there is no much mass
increase. Only about 5-7 pounds muscle, and about 6 pounds Fat
tissues (about 1:1 ratio).

I am having second thoughts about the legitimacy of the sust
and deca. Maybe they are counterfeits. I know an MD whom I
need to speak to, and I think he could arrange me
a Testosterone level test (probably blood test).

If my source scammed me on the sust or deca, I will show him
the results and ask for my money back, since he is a very well
known figure in my country (pro bodybuilder) I doubt he will
take chances with me. But I need a solid proof of that.

Did anyone here undergone such a test and know exactly
what to except ? Test Levels etc... And is the timing now right
for the test ? (Week 5 or 6 into cycle) ?

It's just that I hear so many great stories of people here gaining
huge amounts of mass by week 3 or 4 and without fat, and my
situation is so different, large amounts of fat (probably not water
retension because I'm on 0.25mg arimidex ed), and very mild
amounds of muscle (my nutrition is perfect and so is training).

Thanks guys.

 

[amaritto]

Not sure about the testing, but your gains are not that bad.

You are up around 12 pounds in 5 weeks. The sust and deca take around 4-5 weeks to actually kick in. You are talking arimidex, so you will not be getting the water weight alot of users do.

I say just stick with it and you should start putting on some more pounds soon.

 

[fitwizard]

yes Amarito. I am 12 pounds, but already been that weight
before in my life (around a year ago). Thing is, most of it
is fat (half of it), it accoumilating all over my gut and I cannot
walk with many t-shirts anymore, because I look like a fat
lady, my waist measurements have gone more than 2 inches.

So yes, 12 pounds, but that's not 12 pounds muscle, only
about 6 of it, not much to say the least.

 

[fitwizard]

bump

 

[JohnyJuice]

#1. Why did you taper your doses upward?? Just startt high.
#2. You should have front loaded.

The reson you are putting on fat is because you didnt have enough drugs in your system the first four weeks to promote much muscle growth. The dbol was the only thing really kicking. Dbol has been shown (mods posted a study way back when) to interfere with fat metabolism.

 

[movie muscle]

Give it some more time to get going.Hows the strength,is it already above your best lifts?If so,sounds to me like your stuff is ok.

 

[gethard1]

I am having similar

results on a similar cycle. The arimidex has kept the puffy water wieght off the deca I feel is for me not a good choice except for helping my joints, the sust and the dbol have, for instance upped my bench almost 100lbs and the other exercises are following the same pattern.
My test, sust and enanthate have been 750 to 1000mg per week for 6 weeks and for me it has made me cut body fat, like 2 inches off my waist. As far as the dbol I do not think that I am responding typically as far as size increase is concerned. And I am sure it is good as is my other gear.
There are other things that can come into play, for me initially low test and estrogen like fat deposits have haunted me my entire life. So actually I think your body has to even itself out and find a balance and for me so far that has been fat loss and enormous strength gains on a mass cycle. Granted I am not eating enough but I find myself not hungry and have kept my protien at 300grams per day and carbs at 250 or so. So maybe eq next time or real soon.
Don't get frustrated everyones responses to different gear is, well, different.

 

[fitwizard]

bump for what to expect at the Testrosterone levels check

bump for what to expect at the Testrosterone levels check

 

[wrj]

The dbol was the only thing really kicking. Dbol has been shown (mods posted a study way back when) to interfere with fat metabolism.

Really? Could you give me some detail so I can do a search! I'd like to read that.

WRJ