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daised

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As many of you know i was supposr to go to court today to testify on a case having to do with puc. well guess what just my luck. i finally thought this would all be over and that we could be together agian, but i guess he was arrested last night and he was not at court. so now i have to wait until dec.3
 
you are getting involved with Puc??? How many times has he been arrested? Where will he be in 15 years? Will he take care of you... or will you take care of him? Just wondering?
 
no you don't, you have to take care of yourself and cut the big boy loose. walk away slowly, but walk away. I know nothing about the story but i see the facts as plain as day. Sorry if it isn't what you wanted to hear.
 
Kahn said:
no you don't, you have to take care of yourself and cut the big boy loose. walk away slowly, but walk away. I know nothing about the story but i see the facts as plain as day. Sorry if it isn't what you wanted to hear.

I am with Kahn.... I know it may be hard to take. But the truth is the truth. Even if Puc is a nice guy.
 
daised...none of my business, but why are you dating a 25 year old who gets arrested all the time? What's the appeal, and what do your parents think?
 
WEll, girl...that stuff is HIS problem. Not yours. Like everyone else said...it's time for you to walk away.

You don't need to be involved in shit like that. It will end up bringing you down, too.
 
Taps said:
daised...none of my business, but why are you dating a 25 year old who gets arrested all the time? What's the appeal

i hope the answer isnt in the question.......
 
As many of you know i was supposr to go to court today to testify on a case having to do with puc. well guess what just my luck. i finally thought this would all be over and that we could be together agian, but i guess he was arrested last night and he was not at court. so now i have to wait until dec.3

That explains everything!:(
 
ist arrest was drug related, i don't know what this other one is related to. I'm so scared. I love him. I finally can relate to my mom. i never understood why she put up with my father (he's an alcoholic) but maybe just like her i'm not strong enough to take control of my life. i love him, but you are right he must straighten out. i refuse to live a life filled with police and jail.

The appeal? I love him becaus (generally) he makes me a better person. I feel good about ,myself when around him, and he understands me. He has helped me grow spiritually, mentally, and emotionally so much. I just wonder if maybe now it's my turn to test my inner strength and help him grow. I want him to realise he doesn't have to drugs and stop doing g. it really kinda upsets me, but i can't say much since i smoke weed and drink.

Thanks for the advice, please keep sharing- you are really helping.
 
what crime(s). i live in indiana, and have an above average knowlege of the indiana criminal code.

would you like to see a list of mitigating circumstances he can claim at trial? and aggravating circumstances that could get him in more trouble (kinda bullshit. i've seen people get 60 years for having mitigating circumstances)

also, (tee hee), did puc find that episode of the simpsons where homer became a bodybuilder.

IC 35-38-1-7.1

tell him to follow subsection (a) and avoid subsection (b)

IC 35-38-1-7.1

(a) In determining what sentence to impose for a crime, the
court shall consider:
(1) the risk that the person will commit another crime;
(2) the nature and circumstances of the crime committed;
(3) the person's:
(A) prior criminal record;
(B) character; and
(C) condition;
(4) whether the victim of the crime was less than twelve (12) years of age or at least sixty-five (65) years of age;
(5) whether the person committed the offense in the presence or within hearing of a person who is less than eighteen (18) years of age who was not the victim of the offense;
(6) whether the person violated a protective order issued against the person under IC 31-15 or IC 31-16 (or IC 31-1-11.5 before its repeal) or IC 34-26-2 (or IC 34-4-5.1 before its repeal); and
(7) any oral or written statement made by a victim of the crime.
(b) The court may consider the following factors as aggravating circumstances or as favoring imposing consecutive terms of imprisonment:
(1) The person has recently violated the conditions of any probation, parole, or pardon granted to the person.
(2) The person has a history of criminal or delinquent activity.
(3) The person is in need of correctional or rehabilitative treatment that can best be provided by commitment of the person to a penal facility.
(4) Imposition of a reduced sentence or suspension of the sentence and imposition of probation would depreciate the seriousness of the crime.
(5) The victim of the crime was less than twelve (12) years of age or at least sixty-five (65) years of age.
(6) The victim of the crime was mentally or physically infirm.
(7) The person committed a forcible felony while wearing a garment designed to resist the penetration of a bullet.
(8) The person committed a sex crime listed in subsection (e) and:
(A) the crime created an epidemiologically demonstrated risk of transmission of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and involved the sex organ of one (1) person and the mouth, anus, or sex organ of another person;
(B) the person had knowledge that the person was a carrier of HIV; and
(C) the person had received risk counseling as described in subsection (g).
(9) The person committed an offense related to controlled substances listed in subsection (f) if:
(A) the offense involved:
(i) the delivery by any person to another person; or
(ii) the use by any person on another person;
of a contaminated sharp (as defined in IC 16-41-16-2) or other paraphernalia that creates an epidemiologically demonstrated risk of transmission of HIV by involving percutaneous contact;
(B) the person had knowledge that the person was a carrier of

the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV); and
(C) the person had received risk counseling as described in subsection (g).
(10) The person committed the offense in an area of a consolidated or second class city that is designated as a public safety improvement area by the Indiana criminal justice institute under IC 36-8-19.5.
(11) The injury to or death of the victim of the crime was the result of shaken baby syndrome (as defined in IC 16-41-40-2).
(12) Before the commission of the crime, the person administered to the victim of the crime, without the victim's knowledge, a sedating drug or a drug that had a hypnotic effect on the victim, or the person had knowledge that such a drug had been administered to the victim without the victim's knowledge.
(13) The person:
(A) committed trafficking with an inmate under IC 35-44-3-9; and
(B) is an employee of the penal facility.
(14) The person committed the offense in the presence or within hearing of a person who is less than eighteen (18) years of age who was not the victim of the offense.
(c) The court may consider the following factors as mitigating circumstances or as favoring suspending the sentence and imposing probation:
(1) The crime neither caused nor threatened serious harm to persons or property, or the person did not contemplate that it would do so.
(2) The crime was the result of circumstances unlikely to recur.
(3) The victim of the crime induced or facilitated the offense.
(4) There are substantial grounds tending to excuse or justify the crime, though failing to establish a defense.
(5) The person acted under strong provocation.
(6) The person has no history of delinquency or criminal activity, or the person has led a law-abiding life for a substantial period before commission of the crime.
(7) The person is likely to respond affirmatively to probation or short term imprisonment.
(8) The character and attitudes of the person indicate that the person is unlikely to commit another crime.
(9) The person has made or will make restitution to the victim of the crime for the injury, damage, or loss sustained.
(10) Imprisonment of the person will result in undue hardship to the person or the dependents of the person.
(11) The person was convicted of a crime involving the use of force against a person who had repeatedly inflicted physical or sexual abuse upon the convicted person and evidence shows that the convicted person suffered from the effects of battery as a result of the past course of conduct of the individual who is the victim of the crime for which the person was convicted.
(d) The criteria listed in subsections (b) and (c) do not limit the matters that the court may consider in determining the sentence.


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(e) For the purposes of this article, the following crimes are considered sex crimes:
(1) Rape (IC 35-42-4-1).
(2) Criminal deviate conduct (IC 35-42-4-2).
(3) Child molesting (IC 35-42-4-3).
(4) Child seduction (IC 35-42-4-7).
(5) Prostitution (IC 35-45-4-2).
(6) Patronizing a prostitute (IC 35-45-4-3).
(7) Incest (IC 35-46-1-3).
(8) Sexual misconduct with a minor under IC 35-42-4-9(a).
(f) For the purposes of this article, the following crimes are considered offenses related to controlled substances:
(1) Dealing in or manufacturing cocaine, a narcotic drug, or methamphetamine (IC 35-48-4-1).
(2) Dealing in a schedule I, II, or III controlled substance (IC 35-48-4-2).
(3) Dealing in a schedule IV controlled substance (IC 35-48-4-3).
(4) Dealing in a schedule V controlled substance (IC 35-48-4-4).
(5) Possession of cocaine, a narcotic drug, or methamphetamine (IC 35-48-4-6).
(6) Possession of a controlled substance (IC 35-48-4-7).
(7) Dealing in paraphernalia (IC 35-48-4-8.5).
(8) Possession of paraphernalia (IC 35-48-4-8.3).
(9) Offenses relating to registration (IC 35-48-4-14).
(g) For the purposes of this section, a person received risk counseling if the person had been:
(1) notified in person or in writing that tests have confirmed the presence of antibodies to the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) in the person's blood; and
(2) warned of the behavior that can transmit HIV.
 
daised said:
The appeal? I love him becaus (generally) he makes me a better person. I feel good about ,myself when around him, and he understands me. He has helped me grow spiritually, mentally, and emotionally so much. I just wonder if maybe now it's my turn to test my inner strength and help him grow. I want him to realise he doesn't have to drugs and stop doing g. it really kinda upsets me, but i can't say much since i smoke weed and drink.

Daised, you picked your handle well.

I am sure that you are a very sweet kid, but ......

HELLO!! MCFLY.....IS ANYBODY IN THERE?!?!??!

Please go back and reread that part of your last post that I quoted and tell me what is wrong here.
 
Sweetie...

1) YOU need to be happy with YOU before anyone else can make you happy.

2) Did you ever think that maybe your hanging around him has something to do with why YOU smoke weed and drink?

3) You are 17. You have a long life to live....why not begin to make it worth it by getting out of this situation.

4) Get out

5) Get out
 
but i love him, he has been there so many times for me. I am happy with myself, and he does not drink or smoke weed therefore he did not contribute to this. i miss him so much.

Bikini mom - what's wrong with what i said? i honestly don't know.
 
daised said:
but i love him, he has been there so many times for me. I am happy with myself, and he does not drink or smoke weed therefore he did not contribute to this. i miss him so much.

Bikini mom - what's wrong with what i said? i honestly don't know.

Girl,

I can honestly tell you that you are at a point in your life and in this relationship that the only way you are going to do what you need to do is if you learn from your own mistakes.

So....therefore...no matter what anyone on here tells you to do...you are still going to do what you want to because you 'love' this guy. For your sake, I hope you realize this before you make any, but unfortunately I don't see that happening. You will have to make it through this yourself...before you can see what is not right about it.
 
daised said:
The appeal? I love him becaus (generally) he makes me a better person. I feel good about ,myself when around him, and he understands me.

OK Daised here it is:

You say you love him. I am not trying to tell you how YOU feel, but TRUST ME when I tell you that at 17 YOU DO NOT HAVE AN INKLING as to what love is. I am a little older (hehehhee) and I am STILL trying to figure it out. MY CHILDREN have taught me more about love than I HAVE TAUGHT THEM! When a couple has been married for like 50 years and they still reach for each other's careworn hands when they walk together and have respect, admiration and true friendship - THAT IS LOVE. The rest of us have the rest of our lives to figure it out.

What you are feeling is HORMONAL.

If you and he were truly affecting each other positively you would not smoke weed OR drink and he would also not engage in recreational drug use or have trouble with the law.

daised said:
He has helped me grow spiritually, mentally, and emotionally so much.

If this were TRULY the case NEITHER of you would engage in the behaviors that you now engage in. Why? Because you would realize that it compromises your selfworth.


daised said:
I just wonder if maybe now it's my turn to test my inner strength and help him grow. I want him to realise he doesn't have to drugs and stop doing g. it really kinda upsets me, but i can't say much since i smoke weed and drink.

This is the part that I find MOST disturbing....

You say that you want to test your innerstrength and help him realize that he doesn't have to do drugs.... yet you do them ALSO!

Daised - I don't know you and I am impressed that you didn't go off and start name-calling.... my post was harsh. IT WAS MEANT TO BE.

I want you to take a look at your life and think more clearly! You are young and THROWING IT ALL AWAY!

At the age of 17 you should be less concerned with love and more concerned with your future.... otherwise you WILL endup like your parents (I am not passing judgement, just pointing out what you stated.) How are your grades? Do you have universities selected to attend? Do you know what you want to pursue?

Hey, I have four kids and am at the tail end (God-willing) of a divorce that was VERY UGLY and could have been avoided. I did NOT finish college - got married instead (BRAINDEAD MOVE OF THE CENTURY!!!). Now I have to "fix my head, heal my heart, finish my education, support myself and my girls"..... My ex was not an alcoholic or druggie - nor did he have trouble with the law, but the end result was the same nonetheless. He was not a bad guy. Just not good enough for me......

DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES THAT I DID.

THINK ABOUT IT - LIFE IS NOT A DRESS REHEARSAL - YOU WILL NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE!

What you are feeling is less love and more low self esteem. YOU WILL NOT FIND YOUR SELF-WORTH FROM A MAN - PERIOD!
 
Just because a guy gets in trouble with the law doesn't make him a bad person, I hope.

Testify, shit, tear your pants off on the stand and start fucking yourself with the judge's gavel. Acquittal guaranteed.

That said, smoke some crack out of a makeshift coffee can pipe.
 
bikini mom

i do think about my future. i have already applied to three colleges, have a 3.5 cumlative gpa. yake all honors classes (except religion b/c you can't take an "honors" religion class). I am involved with sports and clubs at my school. i do not worry about my future because i know i am in the right direction. i know what i want to major in also.

i love him (no matter what you guys say i will always say this) but also know i can't let his decisions ruin my life. I love myself enough to know that maybe i have to let him go if things don't change. BUt it's not my place to tell him to quit drug use, i'm afriad that if i tell him he will quit and later hold it agianst me. it's something he has to realise on his own. As much as it will and does hurt to even think about i know i might have to let him go, but he will always have a place in my heart. i will always care about him. Nothing I do can make him stop drug use. ( ifinally learned this with my dad as well) It's not fair to make me live my life wondering if he will be put in jail, or arrested. i've made decisions about my lifestyle and person i want to be. I'm just scared he won't make the similar decisions
 
I have enjoyed chatting with Puc but if you dont move on your going to probably get brought down...He has to get away from this shit if or it's going to get to you one day
 
TxCollegeguy said:
I have enjoyed chatting with Puc but if you dont move on your going to probably get brought down...He has to get away from this shit if or it's going to get to you one day

i know, i just hope maybe he makes some changes so that we can still be together. i'm not running away with him right now. i have several months to figure out what is going on. so i just have to be patient and wait and see what happens
 
Re: bikini mom

daised said:
i do think about my future. i have already applied to three colleges, have a 3.5 cumlative gpa. yake all honors classes (except religion b/c you can't take an "honors" religion class). I am involved with sports and clubs at my school. i do not worry about my future because i know i am in the right direction. i know what i want to major in also.

]EXCELLENT!!! BRAVO!!! :D

daised said:
i love him (no matter what you guys say i will always say this) but also know i can't let his decisions ruin my life. I love myself enough to know that maybe i have to let him go if things don't change. BUt it's not my place to tell him to quit drug use, i'm afriad that if i tell him he will quit and later hold it agianst me. it's something he has to realise on his own. As much as it will and does hurt to even think about i know i might have to let him go, but he will always have a place in my heart. i will always care about him. Nothing I do can make him stop drug use. ( ifinally learned this with my dad as well) It's not fair to make me live my life wondering if he will be put in jail, or arrested. i've made decisions about my lifestyle and person i want to be. I'm just scared he won't make the similar decisions [/QUOTE

Just keep re-reading what you have just typed.... the answer is CLEAR. Not all of life's decisions are easy, though this one IS. Easy, however, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WILL NOT HURT.
 
Re: bikini mom

daised said:
i do think about my future. i have already applied to three colleges, have a 3.5 cumlative gpa. yake all honors classes (except religion b/c you can't take an "honors" religion class). I am involved with sports and clubs at my school. i do not worry about my future because i know i am in the right direction. i know what i want to major in also.

]EXCELLENT!!! BRAVO!!! :D

daised said:
i love him (no matter what you guys say i will always say this) but also know i can't let his decisions ruin my life. I love myself enough to know that maybe i have to let him go if things don't change. BUt it's not my place to tell him to quit drug use, i'm afriad that if i tell him he will quit and later hold it agianst me. it's something he has to realise on his own. As much as it will and does hurt to even think about i know i might have to let him go, but he will always have a place in my heart. i will always care about him. Nothing I do can make him stop drug use. ( ifinally learned this with my dad as well) It's not fair to make me live my life wondering if he will be put in jail, or arrested. i've made decisions about my lifestyle and person i want to be. I'm just scared he won't make the similar decisions [/QUOTE

Just keep re-reading what you have just typed.... the answer is CLEAR. Not all of life's decisions are easy, though this one IS. Easy, however, DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WILL NOT HURT.
 
So BM,


what about those who marry their highschool sweetheart, and STAY TOGETHER? Are you saying that they didn't know what their love was until they turned 21 or so???? Love is just a feeling two people share together. It does develop as time goes on, but does that mean it wasn't significant in the beggining, even if at 17?


Just wanted your opinion (from a young 26 yr old)
 
bikini mom

you just said my decision is easy, no it's not. my mind tells me to do one thing while my heart tells me to do another. I'm just going to linger in limbo for a while. I need to see what happens and where our relationship goes or doesn't go. but I am scared.

i just remembered somone once told me my theme song should be "everything to everyone" i think it's by everlast
 
Jimsbbc said:
So BM,


what about those who marry their highschool sweetheart, and STAY TOGETHER? Are you saying that they didn't know what their love was until they turned 21 or so???? Love is just a feeling two people share together. It does develop as time goes on, but does that mean it wasn't significant in the beggining, even if at 17?


Just wanted your opinion (from a young 26 yr old)

I am not saying that it is IMPOSSIBLE.... just not probable.

Even those that stay together will acknowledge that the feelings that drew them together ARE NOT the feelings that KEPT THEM TOGETHER.....

We are always growing and changing.... sometimes a couple has the strength to stay together throughout, sometimes NOT. I still say that LOVE is NOT WHAT BINDS THEM.... but friendship, trust, commitment, respect, and loyalty...

As for the feelings that a 17 year old is capable of experiencing... that INTENSE DESIRE.... generally, it IS NOT LOVE....

What is love? I am not quite sure. Did I love my ex? WITHOUT A DOUBT.... I still do. I will always have feelings for him; not as a husband, but as the father of my girls. We will be forever bound by our children.... But the simple fact is that I chose to love a man who was not capable of the same depth of emotion... and he was MUCH older than me (nearly 7 years). He claims to have loved me and for all its worth I am sure that he did love me as much as he could.... but in the end, it was not NEARLY ENOUGH.

See Daised that is what I am trying to tell you, the decision to no longer be in a relationship where a man DOES NOT return the feelings that you have for him IS EASY.... THOUGH EXTREMELY PAINFUL. I am not saying that Puc is a bad guy, but he needs to straighten out his life before he can return your feelings properly. Once you realize this what you do next will become more clear.

And Jmbbc - if you and your high school sweetheart are dancing together at your 25th I will be quite envious.... but EXTREMELY HAPPY FOR YOU BOTH. :)
 
daised, you are definitely on your way to becoming a woman, you met a man and want to change him. Let me give you a hint...date a guy that does not need to be changed to live up to your standards.

hell, I could bend you over and we would both feel much better.
 
Night Fly said:
Sweetie...

1) YOU need to be happy with YOU before anyone else can make you happy.

2) Did you ever think that maybe your hanging around him has something to do with why YOU smoke weed and drink?

3) You are 17. You have a long life to live....why not begin to make it worth it by getting out of this situation.

4) Get out

5) Get out

Good advise, Ive been dealing with #1 for awhile. Im not going to look for anyone in my life until Im happy with myself, if I do meet someone, so be it, but Im not looking for it yet. I have improved a lot over the past year or so
 
This is a case of emotional train wreck A and B coming together...only thing that is going to come of it is alot of clean up! You have to realize that no one is going to make you feel better, you are just fooling yourself if you believe that. It's total bullshit.

Only you can make yourself feel anything and it's your choice period.

The only real reason you are with Puc is to cover up your feelings and issues you are not confronting over your mother staying with your father. You know it, you just dont want to deal with it and your putting a relationship bandaide over it.

Good luck in ten years trying to figure out where you fucked up. In fact save this and you'll have a good clue about the answer.
 
I'm looking at this lil ladies thread as a vicious cycle.....

Mom married a drunk...daughter falls "in love" with a young man who is arrested for drug possession? Where does it end?

Sorry, but if you are feeling scared, then your inner self is trying to tell you something young lady!

LOVE SHOULD NEVER MAKE A PERSON SCARED- EVER!
 
Days of the Tantric said:
A 17 year old woman has a lot of things to experience that will change the way she thinks about things. In 5 years, she will be wondering what happened to what probably are the best years of a young person's life.

True DOT...she hasn't even been in an Orgy yet for God Sake!
 
My decisions are not going to ruin her life.

I have made some mistakes, but they are done now.

I was arrested for suspision of dui... but i wasn't drunk.

I do not want her to wait for me.

I will come and find her when the time is right.

I never claimed to be normal.

I haven't hurt anyone.

I have to start rebuilding my life now.

and I know EXACTLY where to begin.
 
btw...

I have had an anxiety disorder for a long time (see NIGHT EATING SYNDROME)

I am not a druggie. I have never even done X. I just like to dance alot. And, I will do anything for a full nights sleep, because I get them so rarely, but, I can not talk about this any further.

I will love daised forever, even though it seems like we are fated to stay apart.

two runaway freight trains, true, but I am done dashing headlong through life.
 
Puc

you have offically scared the shit out of me and leila, we both we so incredibley scared because neither one of us had talked to you. Thank God you are all right now

i love you
 
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