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BEAST420

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Sup, I have 3 bottles of test c , running it for 12 weeks. I'm looking for another somewhat non harsh compound. I'm tryna bulk but don't mind taking Somthing that's not ment for straight bulking . I was thinking maybe var, epi, hella, not totally sure.... What yall think?
23, 185, 13% 5'10

I also have 2 bottle of winny but this is my true first injectable cycle an iv read winny is harsh and probably not great for a first time run. I already have joint issues in my elbo...
 
Was originally gonna use dbol, found out a lot is water weight... Beast was my next option but then realized I didet wanna mess with Somthing that strong first time around... If u think sides won't be unbearable I might reconsider.... Idk I just thought var would a better first time option
 
BEAST420 said:
Was originally gonna use dbol, found out a lot is water weight... Beast was my next option but then realized I didet wanna mess with Somthing that strong first time around... If u think sides won't be unbearable I might reconsider.... Idk I just thought var would a better first time option
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Wont an ai help with the bloat? If you are against dbol id run a low dose beast. 20mg daily or even 10 if sides are bad
 
Dude your after mass no? Var is more of a strength/cutter.you know beast is hard to get and dbol is bloat.beast has harsh sides if your not careful.hella or halo nice starter but why not diesel??? Anybody agree? It's still available too
 
Idk man I was thinking let the test do the mass an then let the var make tht mass look nice....
Beast is 125-150 where ican find it and that's just mad expensive. I'd also need transaderm which is another 150. On top of N2guard....
Idk guys I'm stuck
 
BEAST420 said:
Idk man I was thinking let the test do the mass an then let the var make tht mass look nice....
Beast is 125-150 where ican find it and that's just mad expensive. I'd also need transaderm which is another 150. On top of N2guard....
Idk guys I'm stuck
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Don't cheap out on a cycle
. It's expensive. PCT is expensive too but that's critical.
 
Yea I kno it costs money... So is the awnser beast?? HHaha u guys are killing me, I wasent tryna run sd on my first cycle but looks like I'm beig talked into it .....
 
BEAST420 said:
Idk man I was thinking let the test do the mass an then let the var make tht mass look nice....
Beast is 125-150 where ican find it and that's just mad expensive. I'd also need transaderm which is another 150. On top of N2guard....
Idk guys I'm stuck
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Like goat23 and I already said, Dieselbolan.
 
^^ Jump starting with it next week. Although considering pushing back to the 29th because next week is last week of college and dont wanna risk any sideeffects messing up exams.

Either way will log. Diesel 1-4, Sust250 1-10.
 
maybe i should try out the dbol... you boys think dbol over beat and var? not gonna lie i was heavily leaning toward the var weeks 7-12 at 60mg a day... i understand the dbol will be better for mass but , i feel like with my diet and with test i could easily gain 20 pounds of mass, whats the dbol even gonna do? I do have aromisn from great white peptides in case of any bloat but bloating is not my goal... quality mass is...
i did read that dbol gains are hard to keep bc somthing with very high glycogen (not sure what that means at all)
idk, you guys are the experts so please try and get through to me.. this is my first cycle and would like to do it perfectly
 
BEAST420 said:
maybe i should try out the dbol... you boys think dbol over beat and var? not gonna lie i was heavily leaning toward the var weeks 7-12 at 60mg a day... i understand the dbol will be better for mass but , i feel like with my diet and with test i could easily gain 20 pounds of mass, whats the dbol even gonna do? I do have aromisn from great white peptides in case of any bloat but bloating is not my goal... quality mass is...
i did read that dbol gains are hard to keep bc somthing with very high glycogen (not sure what that means at all)
idk, you guys are the experts so please try and get through to me.. this is my first cycle and would like to do it perfectly
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Var is for people with a vagina so go d Bol !
 
haha ...what is diesel ?? iv seen it on mr. supps but have heard no feedback, sorry for not wanting to jump on somthing iv never rele read/ heard about... Also iv learned phs tend to be harsher then real juice.. So now im hearing dbol.. Im hearing many different opinions, anyone care to share why they think the way they do would be greatly appreciated...
 
IMO Helladrol would be perfect for you. Great gains and not a lot of bloat. I honestly think thats the obvious answer..
 
id prefer to run var over hella, id rather run a riod the a ph.. but the other fellas are telling me var wont be good for my goals
 
If your going for mass extend your cycle a few weeks and get some equipoise. Its not a harsh compound at all, and you'll gain some quality muscle.
 
My mind is not set on var.. Hmm i kinda like that idea, i havent read much about equipoise but i do kno that dbol is that methalyated... From what iv read it would be what a 16 week cycle? Isent that a bit long for first cylce?
 
BEAST420 said:
What type of gains does equipoise yield?
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Slow steady pump worthy gains. Keepable too . If you want mass the go diesel or dbol. Kickstart with the dbol and once the test is kicked in it shouldn't be so hard to keep the dbol gains. It's cheap and effective for mass.


Ride it like you stole it!!
 
That's sounds more reasonable... I'm thinking maybe 25 mg pre workout for 4 weeks w/ an a.i. ... What was ur experience with dbol?
 
Just talked to some buddies and they all said dbol is not the right route to go... They said gains are very hard to keep... Im literally so confused
 
Gains are hard to keep if you don't run it right. Like the guy said above, if you kickstarted your cycle with Dbol (1-4) it would be much easier to maintain your gains from the Dbol bc your test will be kicking in around week 4-5. Dbol only cycles are hard to maintain size.
 
Why dont u just do a test only if its ur first inject plus if u cant decide on a kicker...

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LISTEN ..var is for.cutting and looking shredded ...
Dbol is fantasic for quick mass gains..(run an AI)..but it water and very prone to production of gyno..like 50/50 chance...also
Methasterone (beast or Superdrol)
Run @ 20mg per week will provide as much mass.(ie 15lbs if diet is on point, 4-5k cals per day in 4weeks)..it does not aromatize into estrogen ..thus no or very very low chance for gyno..10% maybe! ..also with cycle assist (cel) or similar liv support/bp support..methasterone is quite good...it is dry real gains..not water and with the test it will be easily keep...also know this METHASTERONE is NOT a PH..it is an active oral steriod...period!
Var..5 pounds rock hard muscle..
Dbol 20 lbs at first lose 12 from water..
Beast as you call it 15+ lbs of lean body mass ..almost all kept!
You decide..also check out some european supplement companies ..may take a lil longer with shipping ..but look for CEL MDrol...say it yesterday for 33euros..bout 50 bucks.(i think i am american lol )..for 90 (ten mg capsule)
Hope this helps your choice!
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now i thnk i want the beast again... with that at 20mg a day what sides am i looking at ,As opposed to var side effects bc i think iv narrowed it down to choosing between the two.. i cant find n2guard anywhere and do i need anything else (for beast specifically?)
 
Just go with test only . Best way to do it. Your trying to plan out a perfect cycle it seems. You want mass?? Test will give you mass and make you feel good. Orals can a lot of times be a hinderance to some because of lethargy, back pumps, or shitty feeling. Just keep it simple my man and next cycle add a new compound to see how you react. Your all over the map.. Keep it simple and cheap and you will find what your looking for



Ride it like you stole it!!
 
That's probably what I should do, but let me tell you my thinkin... I'm buying every support Supp I need, I'm buying a perfect pct, so why not make the most out of my cycle. With test yes I will make gains, but with an added oral for a couple of weeks I feel like the gains would be much better.. I'm rele heavily leaning on beast weeks 1-4 20mg whole way through... If I have to buy extra support for beast I will .....
iv been reading great things on its ability to pack on lean mass without much bloat... I did read up on pple having libido issues and I was thinking about switching my test from cyp to sus for the prop in aspect. Idk if that will even help but just a thought.... How does that sound?
 
Ok simple as this just take beast or superdrol be aware it is the harshest oral out there and it is a steroid!only run 20mg per day if your stacking on test.run it when you wake up with fish oil and again 7 hours later as it's life is 6-8 hours.and 2 hours away from other pills.forget the before workout bullshit cause that's what it is bullshit.advice- don't skimp on supports!with sd or beast you'll be downing around 25 plus various tablets a day eg what I do
3 superdrol a day
8 cycle assist
6 fish oil
2 multis
5 t force(fadogia agretsis)
4 glycobol
3 liv 52
And I ran outta money lol make sure you get hcgenerate or t force to run throughout cycle unless you want a floppy dick and the cycle assist or n2gaurd for all your organ or your gonna be fryed and won't last your orals!at the very least! Get unleashed/post cycle combo,clomid and daa for your pct before you start!!! Cals min 5k per day to bulk go in hard man!! Carbs get them clean from food and not just shakes or you'll be spraying the toilet!protein too!fucking start downing eggs supermarket will love you or buy a chicken lol been burnt there ; ) yuck
Water each sd pill down a liter with it otherwise headaches my man! And don't punk out in the gym your taking the best workout like a fucking god grunt groan and move that weight you know your got your beastly back up!!! Forget d Bol,water!var nice cut but no real mass.diesel is beasts weak ass cousin,epi is just a weird ass name to slow for you.hella and halo are beginners.lol would love a bombs but we aren't going there!! Man up bub make a choice live with it look after yourself and if you choose beast lol then you'll know what we rave on about!!!
Beastdrol forever!!!!
 
Hmm id use the h generate on the beast and save the hcg,just space it a couple hours away from the beast tab
 
Ha man your gonna love it fucking one directions song came on and it pumped me up when I was on beast and for a mid thirties hetro guy that just shows the power of beast!! Lol smash it bro just watch the looks you'll get with the quick transformation haha my misses had no idea I was ON came to the gym and after a few sets said fuck are you on steroids or something : )
 
Ahhh yes I can't fuckin wait to get this beast in my hand... What type of test?? Sus good choice? I kno test is test but jw about the short Ester helping with sides of beast
 
thanks man, i rele appreciate all ur help bro! Your enthusiasm is rele exciting me haha... As for test.. why not sus? and 400 or 500 for first time go?
 
You only need your test..SD..and cycle.assist from cel...f all the others..maybe fish oil too

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Sides at 20mg with support supps..high blood pressure..back pumps..cholesterol levels wacked out..returning to normal after cycle..
Taurine for.back pumps at 5grams

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Think bout it ..your body metabolizing and liver processing all those other supplement just adds more stress from.the body ..
Cycle test,sd
Cycle assist ..fish oil..multi vit..taurine..
AI aromasin!
Pct 14 days after last test E shot..
Nolva ..clomid

Also not SUST bc with the multiple esters..it more like EoD shots..and harder to control levels ..and its the change in.levels of T and E..the changes cause you the sides...thus test c or E and two.shots.per.week is much much easier to create more streamline blood levels

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^ thanks bro! i plan on hopfully taking n2guard if it ever gets back in stock.. if not ill take cycle assist.. and im deff taking at least 20-40 mg policosanol just to help with lipids.. An yea i have aromisin on hand as well. i will only use if i notice estro sides... last question is how will the test combat some sides if it takes 4 weeks to kick in?
 
Run hcgenerate or t force first four weeks at least i promise you you will have no dick or balls : ) listen on this one bro! By w3 they'll be sucking back up inside lol cel cycle assist is fine bro if you can't get the n2.the fad agretsis from hcgenerate or t force will combat any libido issues leading up to test, and the cycle assist will cover all else.personally I'd run hcgenerate last 2 weeks before pct as well for a smooth trans when the test wears off
 
Brother ..the test is Active from seconds after the first injection ..yes maybe your not gonna start.gaining weight until weeks 4 or so ..but it is active ...and also..the level distribution of Test from ent or cyp is just more level ..and it has less sides..then say a SUS rollercoaster ride from.different esters..also SUS
is an EoD injection ..dont let anyone tell you its not...and btw...HCgenerate is cool and works well for otc ...but its 75 bucks..wanna get real HCG..for less..PM...im not a rep..or.a source Im a trainer and gym membership card carrier...but I just ordered some ...did the preg test fail safe hcg check..and it's legit..so if you want lmk..if not its cool..use HCgenerate if not

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Cycle assist..is much cheaper ..its as effective..and hate to say..but there is so much sponsor product pushing here its crazy...not like it used to be.

I also have a few other boards that are more purely AAS/PCT/HGH/Peptide related talk..without the product pushing ..like I said PM me

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sounds good man, ill deff send that pm. And i was wondering if N2guard was actually better then cycle assist... i have to say i deff do agree with the pushing of products.. I wil deff use hcgenreate first 4 weeks as i already have it on hand... i also have 5000 ius of hcg and was planning on doing 250 ius 2x a week weeks 5-14 and then blast it 4x week 15 leading to my week 16 pct... PCT is
clomid 25 mgs day
N2BM DAA
Forma Stanzol
I would love to find Unleashed/ post cycle but cant find eithor ... You boys kno of any alternatives? And my source has pharm grade clomid tabs, should i get those or from chemicalneeds?
 
Photosarms 347 or alpha male rx is good!got post cycle and unleashed by buckets load in aus lol hcg is better but would save for after beastdrol when your pinning anyways.agreed lotta product pushing here lol but I push everyone's lol if they work! Get done before and after pics and post man!
 
Pharmaceutical grade is always best!...buy sometimes alot more money and research is good if you use legit company ..that havr "purity" and know how to make "solutions" ya dig!
Also

Clomid @50mg ED
Aromasin on cycle and pct at 12.5mg EoD
NOLVA @ 20 MG ED
ALL FOR 4 WEEKS

All information is for entertainment purpose only and is not valid for real life use in any manner..Gear 63 is a role playing web based persona!
 
maybe i will get the alpha male Rx for my pct in stead of unleashed / post cylce... Any other options? And nolva is a no go, i had a terrible experience and lost all sex drive wile on it.. F THAT lol... ima try and log my expeience so i will try and put pics up.. And sounds good ill get the clomid tabs from my source... And how come 50mg? i always thought higher doses leads to more sides..
 
50 is low dose..some do 100 200...ImO 50 is sweet spot..and 25 is just not enough imo

All information is for entertainment purpose only and is not valid for real life use in any manner..Gear 63 is a role playing web based persona!
 
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