test/winny only cycle

[markshark]

..source got locked up, so i cant get my deca i was gonna run... how effective would a test/winny cycle be without the deca?

original cycle looked like this:
test cyp: 600mg/wk 1-12
deca: 400mg/wk 1-10
winny: 60mg/day wk 1-6

new cycle:
test cyp: 800mg/wk 1-10
winny: 60mg/day 1-6

and pct of course

what would the difference be?
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[Cutt29]

diff would be if your joints get sensitve decca wont be there to help
test prop and winny was my first cycle and i really liked it, i have used winny on three seperate occasions and have never had joiint pain tho

 

[boston789]

Test and winny is a great affordable stack. You will get good results from it. I would run the winny weeks 4-10 instead though.

 

[Vascular Freak]

The difference with out the deca is you will be hard as nails if diet and training are on point

 

[dsh89]

I personally love a test winny cycle. I have done 3 cycles like that, and always got good results. Good size, great vascularity, and pumps that were insane.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

its a good cycle though keep an eye on tendons/joints.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

how effective would a test/winny cycle be without the deca?

still very effective IMO ...but with winny, you MAY develope joint/tendon issues without the deca there to lube them.

 

[markshark]

K to all you guys for responses. i understand the whole joint pain thing and the way deca would help benefit, but how much more would i gain in the strength/size category with deca as compared to without it? my main goal is to stay at a lower weight (im only 155 now,. but stay no more than maybe 190) and be hard and as strong and vascular as possible.

 

[GetBig10]

K to all you guys for responses. i understand the whole joint pain thing and the way deca would help benefit, but how much more would i gain in the strength/size category with deca as compared to without it? my main goal is to stay at a lower weight (im only 155 now,. but stay no more than maybe 190) and be hard and as strong and vascular as possible.

well bro youd gain alot of strength/size with test and winny you will get harder..not that size that deca will give you...winny and test is a good cycle...find a new source n get some deca!!!

 

[GetBig10]

well bro youd gain alot of strength/size with test and winny you will get harder..not that size that deca will give you...winny and test is a good cycle...find a new source n get some deca!!!

lemme refraise that haha...

well bro youd gain alot of strength/size with Deca... test and winny you will get harder..not that size that deca will give you...winny and test is a good cycle...find a new source n get some deca!!!

 

[markshark]

one thing i was curious about was the bloat issue...if deca is taken away from the cycle would i have less bloat? thats one of the main things im trying to stray from because my face is always the first thing to bloat up and get mad acne/.

 

[solidspine]

Can't go wrong,

Just keep in mind your muscle will grow 50 times faster then tendons and leigments can adjust for weight and strength.

Skull crushers, you will see your strength go up quickly, but watch your elbows.

Once you stretch a ligament or tendon, it takes months to heal.

 

[markshark]

Can't go wrong,

Just keep in mind your muscle will grow 50 times faster then tendons and leigments can adjust for weight and strength.

Skull crushers, you will see your strength go up quickly, but watch your elbows.

Once you stretch a ligament or tendon, it takes months to heal.

agreed. every cycle ive done in the past i resorted to skull crushers and my elbows are still paying the price for that.

 

[dsh89]

And yes, the Winny should keep your bloat off if you run it with just test. I have run test and winny with no AI and had absolutely no bloat issues.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

one thing i was curious about was the bloat issue...if deca is taken away from the cycle would i have less bloat? thats one of the main things im trying to stray from because my face is always the first thing to bloat up and get mad acne/.

yes. and the one thing (well in this instance as there are often a number of issues with nandrolones) about nandrolone is that it can cause bloat/puffyness even with strong AI's (since the effect is directly through progestenic action)-- though AI's will help by reducing PgR expression

 

[boston789]

agreed. every cycle ive done in the past i resorted to skull crushers and my elbows are still paying the price for that.

Kinda off subject but try skullcrushers with dumb bells instead of the ez curl bar or long bar....easier on my joints thats for sure.