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Test Undecanoate & The Clear
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jumpshot
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huh...my understanding from from my buddy who picked it all up was that undec was really short acting oral, and could be used to kickstart a long-acting ester like test-e. I'll need to research that.
the clear lol. we also picked up a transdermal test ointment. I assumed "the clear" was slang for what I got. I'm told it's only a slight test boost and used mostly for libido issues. I'm going to experiment with it at any rate.
thanks G for the reply, must spread before give.. anyone else?
the clear lol. we also picked up a transdermal test ointment. I assumed "the clear" was slang for what I got. I'm told it's only a slight test boost and used mostly for libido issues. I'm going to experiment with it at any rate.
thanks G for the reply, must spread before give.. anyone else?
Ok, my bad. As soon as you said oral test i knew right away you meant Andriol. Heres a read on it:
Andriol, is a unique version of testosterone undecanoate developed by Organon. This version of testosterone is based in oil and is sealed in a capsule to be taken orally. According to the manufacturer, this method bypasses the liver and enters the body as a fat through the lymphatic system. In theory this seems quite interesting, however, athletes find Organon's claims don't hold up well. In doses of less than 240mg per day effects are generally non-existent. With higher doses, effects are small at best. This leads one to think most of the steroid is not making it to circulation. Generally, steroid users experienced with any strong anabolics will be disappointed with Andriol's results. Combined with other anabolics it may lend some effectiveness but should be questioned.
Andriol, is a unique version of testosterone undecanoate developed by Organon. This version of testosterone is based in oil and is sealed in a capsule to be taken orally. According to the manufacturer, this method bypasses the liver and enters the body as a fat through the lymphatic system. In theory this seems quite interesting, however, athletes find Organon's claims don't hold up well. In doses of less than 240mg per day effects are generally non-existent. With higher doses, effects are small at best. This leads one to think most of the steroid is not making it to circulation. Generally, steroid users experienced with any strong anabolics will be disappointed with Andriol's results. Combined with other anabolics it may lend some effectiveness but should be questioned.
klausflouride
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dsh89 said:
I agree. I bought some andriol (which aint exactly cheap by the way) and all it did was give me a boner! I think if you take huge doses it's supposed to be ok but then we re talking big money!
southpaw45
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Sounds like it would work better if you did a lot of cardio. The more fat you burn the higher chance you'll get more undecanate. Just a theory though.
blut wump
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Here's a cut and paste you can find from lots of places.
Undecanoate: Chemical Structure C11H22O2.
Also referred to as Undecanoic Acid; 1-Decanecarboxylic acid; Hendecanoic acid; Undecylic acid. Undecanoate is not a commonly found ester, and only appears to be used in the nandrolone preparation Dynabolan, and oral testosterone undecanoate (Andriol). Since this ester is chemically very similar to undecylenate (it is only 2 hydrogen atoms larger), it has a similar release duration (approximately 2-3 weeks). Although this ester is used in the oral preparation Andriol, there is no reason to believe it carries any properties unique of other esters. Andriol in fact works very poorly at delivering testosterone, bolstering the idea that oral administration is not the idea use of esterified androgens.
Undecanoate: Chemical Structure C11H22O2.
Also referred to as Undecanoic Acid; 1-Decanecarboxylic acid; Hendecanoic acid; Undecylic acid. Undecanoate is not a commonly found ester, and only appears to be used in the nandrolone preparation Dynabolan, and oral testosterone undecanoate (Andriol). Since this ester is chemically very similar to undecylenate (it is only 2 hydrogen atoms larger), it has a similar release duration (approximately 2-3 weeks). Although this ester is used in the oral preparation Andriol, there is no reason to believe it carries any properties unique of other esters. Andriol in fact works very poorly at delivering testosterone, bolstering the idea that oral administration is not the idea use of esterified androgens.
iHulk
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The undec you have is fast acting. The test will peak in the blood very quickly (approximately 2 hours).
From the source:
Testosterone Undecanoate is a unique oral testosterone product. One of the more recently developed esters, 40 mg of Testosterone Undecanoate, based in oil (oleic acid) are sealed inside a capsule. The design of this compound is quite different from that of most oral steroid medications. Drugs administered orally generally enter the blood stream through the liver. When a compound is given this way without some form of structural protection, it will be quickly broken down during this "first pass". This process leaves very little testosterone intact, basically deactivating the drug. Adding a methyl group (c-17 AA) to the structure is one way to protect it from this process, however stress can be placed on the liver as a result. The designers of this product sought another way to protect the testosterone molecule. This was accomplished by making a form of testosterone that would be absorbed through the lymphatic system. This is due to its high fat solubility brought about by the ester, and its suspension in oil. Having the compound absorbed this way is very advantageous, as this allows it to bypass the first-pass through the liver. This should permit the compound to enter the blood stream intact, without the need for a chemical alteration. The ester breaks off once it is in circulation, yielding free active testosterone.
As with all testosterone products it has a strong anabolic activity, with a pronounced androgenic component. Thus it can provide significant gains in strength and muscle mass, as well a noticeable increase in libido. However, Testosterone Undecanoate does not aromatise at a rate as high as other testosterones.
The use of HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) and/or Clomiphene Citrate/Tamoxifen Citrate may also be beneficial at the conclusion of use in order to ensure balance in the hormone system, though Testosterone Undecanoate does not have the same potential to cause disturbance to the HTPA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testes Axis) as the other esters.
Dosages are typically in the region of 4 to 8 capsules daily. The testosterone peak in the blood is reached very quickly (approximately 2 hours). Levels subsequently decline, reaching baseline by 12 hours. If an even blood level of the hormone is desired, the dosage is best consumed at even intervals 2 - 3 times per day.
GenesisRx offers Testosterone Undecanoate 50caps/bottle, 40mg/cap
From the source:
Testosterone Undecanoate is a unique oral testosterone product. One of the more recently developed esters, 40 mg of Testosterone Undecanoate, based in oil (oleic acid) are sealed inside a capsule. The design of this compound is quite different from that of most oral steroid medications. Drugs administered orally generally enter the blood stream through the liver. When a compound is given this way without some form of structural protection, it will be quickly broken down during this "first pass". This process leaves very little testosterone intact, basically deactivating the drug. Adding a methyl group (c-17 AA) to the structure is one way to protect it from this process, however stress can be placed on the liver as a result. The designers of this product sought another way to protect the testosterone molecule. This was accomplished by making a form of testosterone that would be absorbed through the lymphatic system. This is due to its high fat solubility brought about by the ester, and its suspension in oil. Having the compound absorbed this way is very advantageous, as this allows it to bypass the first-pass through the liver. This should permit the compound to enter the blood stream intact, without the need for a chemical alteration. The ester breaks off once it is in circulation, yielding free active testosterone.
As with all testosterone products it has a strong anabolic activity, with a pronounced androgenic component. Thus it can provide significant gains in strength and muscle mass, as well a noticeable increase in libido. However, Testosterone Undecanoate does not aromatise at a rate as high as other testosterones.
The use of HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) and/or Clomiphene Citrate/Tamoxifen Citrate may also be beneficial at the conclusion of use in order to ensure balance in the hormone system, though Testosterone Undecanoate does not have the same potential to cause disturbance to the HTPA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testes Axis) as the other esters.
Dosages are typically in the region of 4 to 8 capsules daily. The testosterone peak in the blood is reached very quickly (approximately 2 hours). Levels subsequently decline, reaching baseline by 12 hours. If an even blood level of the hormone is desired, the dosage is best consumed at even intervals 2 - 3 times per day.
GenesisRx offers Testosterone Undecanoate 50caps/bottle, 40mg/cap
blut wump
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The biggest problem with taking andriol, or any other ester, orally is bio-availability. If you consider the recommended HRT dosage of 4-8 capsules daily then you have 160-320mg daily or between 1120-2240mg weekly and that's HRT dosage, equivalent to around 100mg weekly injected.
I've not looked it up for a while but I seem to recall seeing figures of between 5% and 10%. The rest goes down the toilet.
I've not looked it up for a while but I seem to recall seeing figures of between 5% and 10%. The rest goes down the toilet.
iHulk
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Re: Test Undecanoate & The Cream
It does seem like an exuberant amount of pills to take in a week however even if one loses some potency due to bio-availability, it still seems like it would be a decent med to frontload and/or taper off a mid to heavy test cycle. Assuming its beneficial to ease into the extra Test and ease it off.
blut wump said:
It does seem like an exuberant amount of pills to take in a week however even if one loses some potency due to bio-availability, it still seems like it would be a decent med to frontload and/or taper off a mid to heavy test cycle. Assuming its beneficial to ease into the extra Test and ease it off.
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iHulk
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nope, Sus has test decanoate, usually 100 mg. Undec is a short acting ester.mormussle said:
Everyone responds differently. On just 80mg/day of undec I feel good pumps and huge libido boost. We are comparing apples and oranges. Dbol's sides are way more harsh than undec. So sides to gain ratio compared to Dbol I would rather gulp down 4 - 8 pills/day of undec and not worry about blowing up (or down) to quickly like one usually does dbol.mikefear said:
jumpshot
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I'm going to go read the package insert on the undec. ok going to quote this one more time, from the manufacturer:
Testosterone Undecanoate
Testosterone undecanoate is a unique oral testosterone product. One of the more recently developed esters, 40 mg of testosterone undecanoate, based in oil (oleic acid) are sealed inside a capsule. The design of this compound is quite different from that of most oral steroid medications. Drugs administered orally generally enter the blood stream through the liver. When a compound is given this way without some form of structural protection, it will be quickly broken down during this "first pass". This process leaves very little testosterone intact, basically deactivating the drug. Adding a methyl group (c-17 AA) to the structure is one way to protect it from this process, however stress can be placed on the liver as a result. The designers of this product sought another way to protect the testosterone molecule. With this was accomplished by making a form of testosterone that would be absorbed through the lymphatic system. This is due to its high fat solubility brought about by the ester, and its suspension in oil. Having the compound absorbed this way is very advantageous, as this allows it to bypass the first-pass through the liver. This should permit the compound to enter the blood stream intact, without the need for a chemical alteration. The ester breaks off once it is in circulation, yielding free active testosterone.
As with all testosterone products it has a strong anabolic activity, with a pronounced androgenic component. Thus it can provide significant gains in strength and muscle mass, as well a noticeable increase in libido. However, testosterone undecanoate does not aromatise at a rate as high as other testosterones.
The use of HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) and/or Clomiphene Citrate / Tamoxifen Citrate may also be beneficial at the conclusion of use in order to ensure balance in the hormone system, though Testosterone Undecanoate does not have the same potential to cause disturbance to the HTPA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testes Axis) as the other esters.
Doseages are typically in the region of 4 to 8 capsules daily. The testosterone peak in the blood is reached very quickly (approximately 2 hours). Levels subsequently decline, reaching baseline by 12 hours. If an even blood level of the hormone is desired, the dosage is best consumed at even intervals 2 - 3 times per day.
******* offers Testosterone Undecanoate 50caps/bottle, 40mg/cap.
Testosterone Undecanoate
Testosterone undecanoate is a unique oral testosterone product. One of the more recently developed esters, 40 mg of testosterone undecanoate, based in oil (oleic acid) are sealed inside a capsule. The design of this compound is quite different from that of most oral steroid medications. Drugs administered orally generally enter the blood stream through the liver. When a compound is given this way without some form of structural protection, it will be quickly broken down during this "first pass". This process leaves very little testosterone intact, basically deactivating the drug. Adding a methyl group (c-17 AA) to the structure is one way to protect it from this process, however stress can be placed on the liver as a result. The designers of this product sought another way to protect the testosterone molecule. With this was accomplished by making a form of testosterone that would be absorbed through the lymphatic system. This is due to its high fat solubility brought about by the ester, and its suspension in oil. Having the compound absorbed this way is very advantageous, as this allows it to bypass the first-pass through the liver. This should permit the compound to enter the blood stream intact, without the need for a chemical alteration. The ester breaks off once it is in circulation, yielding free active testosterone.
As with all testosterone products it has a strong anabolic activity, with a pronounced androgenic component. Thus it can provide significant gains in strength and muscle mass, as well a noticeable increase in libido. However, testosterone undecanoate does not aromatise at a rate as high as other testosterones.
The use of HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) and/or Clomiphene Citrate / Tamoxifen Citrate may also be beneficial at the conclusion of use in order to ensure balance in the hormone system, though Testosterone Undecanoate does not have the same potential to cause disturbance to the HTPA (Hypothalamic Pituitary Testes Axis) as the other esters.
Doseages are typically in the region of 4 to 8 capsules daily. The testosterone peak in the blood is reached very quickly (approximately 2 hours). Levels subsequently decline, reaching baseline by 12 hours. If an even blood level of the hormone is desired, the dosage is best consumed at even intervals 2 - 3 times per day.
******* offers Testosterone Undecanoate 50caps/bottle, 40mg/cap.
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