Test/Tren cycle....add Dbol or EQ?

[JLA]

I usually don't worry if someone is on 50mg/day unless they have some liver problem, drink, or shit like that.

But it could be a bit much considering the rest of your cycle. Might as well try 25mg/day and see what that does for you. If you've done a few cycles with that much or more, go with the 50mg. If your cycle is 12 weeks long, I would say go 4 weeks w/dbol, 4 or 5 week off, then finish with 4 weeks of dbol. This will overlap a week past your last test shot, but thats fine since it will still be clearing and the dbol will clear quickly.

In fact, I have taken dbol only for 2 or 3 weeks after my last inject, so you aren't sitting around with declining levels of everything. It's not like you can start you PCT until shit clears anyway (in general of course, you could start hcg before or even all the way through). Hitting a little hcg during the cycle - say 500IU every week or two will keep you online real good. Then you just need to get LH and the rest of the system up with something else like Nolva (preferences vary alot on what is used to get LH up - Nolva helps me).

 

[JLA]

Okay so im running test450 with tren e200 ew. How much Dbol should i run without worrying about liver toxicity and how much arimidex should i use?

Are you running adex throughout? I probably wouldn't use it unless you really hate the bloat or bloat a lot. I personally think it's good for bringing LH levels back up in the middle of PCT.

If you want to keep bloat way down (and maybe cut gains some) I'd say 0.5mg once a week would probably be good enough.

Oh, I tend to think liver toxicity is overrated for orals, but no reason to push it either. If you have enough, I'd run 50mg/day like I posted just above for 8 total weeks. You should see some damn good gains (even with just that dbol, lol).

People get to worked up about designing cycles just so. Old Schoolers would run dbol only for probably way longer than we'd even consider.

If you take care of yourself and don't drink, shouldn't be a problem. Going longer than 4 weeks at atime in dbol is counterproductive for me personally. It seems the gains slow and sides pickup.

 

[ximor]

Great replies man, i appreciate it. Ill start the tren tomorrow and just stick to 25 a day to be on the safe side.