Test/Tren cycle....add Dbol or EQ?

[ximor]

Next week im starting up my cycle with Test400 and Tren Enanthate200. Im 25 6'1 185lbs with 8-9%bf. This is my third cycle after a test/eq and a test/deca. I want to add a third compound, i can get dbol or EQ. I know one could bloat and one can lean. im just wondering which compound would yield more mass. Hope my bros here have some good info

 

[dark-knight]

im no expert but i hear eq doesn't really start to kick until around week 10. so if you are running a 12 week cycle it may be a bit of a waste. (more suited to a 15+ week cycle)

dbol would probably be a better option to kickstart your proposed cycle as it will give give good strength gains and throw on weight quickly that can be solidified with the tren.

im sure someone can elaborate

 

[DodgeChallenger]

I run right now tren /test/dbol
trenn 75 mg eod
test 750 mg week
dbol 30-40 mg

Very good and massive cycle . I never run EQ with tren and test .
Very solid Gains also . EQ is very fking long acting .

 

[therugger]

test, tren, dbol is one of my favorite bulkers. But I do test prop and tran A with it when I want to do shorter cycles with great result. But if you are doing longer esters on test and fina then I would just ad dbol for the first 4 or 5 weeks. It will get you some early results and any bloat the Dbol gives you Fina will take care of

 

[Peanutz26]

Test,Tren,Dbol!

 

[ConanX]

Test,Tren,Dbol!

Maybe my winter bulker!...

I can't believe how much mass Tren has helped me put on.

 

[ximor]

well im sold lol. i get them in 25mg tabs. would 25ed be a good dose and for how long should i run it? also at 400-500mgs of test a week, how should i dose my arimidex?

 

[JLA]

Test,Tren,Dbol!

YES,

Phreezer tells me you get some pretty thick blood with tren and EQ together. (Oh, not sure he posts on here lately - he's a mod at outlaw)

 

[TONY83]

Run the dbol

 

[ximor]

Okay so im running test450 with tren e200 ew. How much Dbol should i run without worrying about liver toxicity and how much arimidex should i use?

 

[JLA]

I usually don't worry if someone is on 50mg/day unless they have some liver problem, drink, or shit like that.

But it could be a bit much considering the rest of your cycle. Might as well try 25mg/day and see what that does for you. If you've done a few cycles with that much or more, go with the 50mg. If your cycle is 12 weeks long, I would say go 4 weeks w/dbol, 4 or 5 week off, then finish with 4 weeks of dbol. This will overlap a week past your last test shot, but thats fine since it will still be clearing and the dbol will clear quickly.

In fact, I have taken dbol only for 2 or 3 weeks after my last inject, so you aren't sitting around with declining levels of everything. It's not like you can start you PCT until shit clears anyway (in general of course, you could start hcg before or even all the way through). Hitting a little hcg during the cycle - say 500IU every week or two will keep you online real good. Then you just need to get LH and the rest of the system up with something else like Nolva (preferences vary alot on what is used to get LH up - Nolva helps me).

 

[JLA]

Okay so im running test450 with tren e200 ew. How much Dbol should i run without worrying about liver toxicity and how much arimidex should i use?

Are you running adex throughout? I probably wouldn't use it unless you really hate the bloat or bloat a lot. I personally think it's good for bringing LH levels back up in the middle of PCT.

If you want to keep bloat way down (and maybe cut gains some) I'd say 0.5mg once a week would probably be good enough.

Oh, I tend to think liver toxicity is overrated for orals, but no reason to push it either. If you have enough, I'd run 50mg/day like I posted just above for 8 total weeks. You should see some damn good gains (even with just that dbol, lol).

People get to worked up about designing cycles just so. Old Schoolers would run dbol only for probably way longer than we'd even consider.

If you take care of yourself and don't drink, shouldn't be a problem. Going longer than 4 weeks at atime in dbol is counterproductive for me personally. It seems the gains slow and sides pickup.

 

[ximor]

Great replies man, i appreciate it. Ill start the tren tomorrow and just stick to 25 a day to be on the safe side.