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Test prop, Tren Ace, Winny cycle

Fatboy1984

Fatboy1984

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starting this cycle on Monday 28th of september.

Test P 75mg ed week 1-10
Tren Ace 50mg ed week 1-8
winny 50mg ed week 4-10

HGH 4iu ed (doing this for about 6-7 months started it 1 week ago)
HCG 250iu x2 per week 1-10

Letro 1mg eod week 1-11 (gyno prone, adex dont do shit for me)
cabor .5mg e3d 1-11

PCT
50mg clomid ed week 10-12 (than 25mg ed 12-14)
sustain alpha (using 2 bottles untill there gone)
toco-8 (also using during cycle)
endo amp
Forged PCT
Unleashed

Im using this cycle to shed some fat and hopfully gain 5-10 pounds and some strength. Not triing to get freakishly shredded. But come off at a good maintenance under 10% body f at.

stats right now:
age=24
hight=5.9
weight=195
bf= around 14% propably

Im gonna be eating clean as possible starting at around 3800 cals with about 400 grams of protien and droping the cals each week and by the end i should be down to about 2000-2200 with clean carbs only for breakfast, right before workout, and immedietly after, and then none before bed.
I will snap acouple before pics soon and post them even though i feel fat and nasty. Itll motivate me more to keep my diet in check.

Heres my fat ass before pics. Im hoping to change alot with this cycle and diet.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j24/cdkirgis/Body changes/Backedit.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j24/cdkirgis/Body changes/Frontviewedit.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j24/cdkirgis/Body changes/Gymedit.jpg
 
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Did my first shot this morning. Used my glute. everything went well. no tren cough or anything. Tomorrow ill use m other glute, and than ill do my quads the next two days. Cant wait to start feelin all this shit. anyone know when ill start feelin it all? im guessing 1.5-2 weeks?

*about 10 hours later now and my ass cheek is hurting pretty bad from the injection. haha Must be the prop. not gonna be walkin to good in three more days when both quads and ass cheeks have been used.
 
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Ive done 2 shots now. 2 days in. both ass cheeks are hurting terribly. My last cycle the injections didnt hurt this bad. Felt kinda light headed and shitty all day today actually. Im gonna eat more carbs tomorrow. I think i cut alittle to many out to fast.
Tomorrow i have my first quad shot ever and im scared cause my ass cheeks hurt so bad from the other ones i cant imagine how my quads are gonna feel. I might have to eventually go down to eod injections if i cant get use to this.
Worked legs today. Felt like i was gonna pass out the whole time. Cant wait for a few more days (if i can walk)
 
haha, Did first quad today. I was scared cause so much viens are in my legs and i didnt want that tren cough everyone talks about. But it actually went really smooth. Easier than using glutes. I wish i would have used quads in my last cycle. I just went right in the middle on top.
The only thing that sucks is this test P, is seriously killing me man. It hurts like fuck all the time. I can barely walk. People keep askin me whats wrong, i just keep telling them ive been killing legs in the gym haha
 
today is day 4. I think im going to eod injections untill my muscles get used to this test p and tren. cause i can barely fucking move. today feeling alittle better. Ive been feeling alittle fluish, but im starting to feel halfway descent again today.
 
yeah it is man. Its fucking horrible. It better get better this second third time around.
The only other place i can think of is delts. than i feel like i wouldnt be able to do any upper body workouts for a few days. Its crippling me. Im hoping tomorrow its better. tomorrow morning im doing 2.25 or prop/tren is my glute.
 
Fatboy1984 said:
yeah it is man. Its fucking horrible. It better get better this second third time around.
The only other place i can think of is delts. than i feel like i wouldnt be able to do any upper body workouts for a few days. Its crippling me. Im hoping tomorrow its better. tomorrow morning im doing 2.25 or prop/tren is my glute.
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The tren should dilute the prop a bit if you mix em and help with the pain.
 
haha i think all the pics are gay. I hate the amount of fat i have right now. Looks like i have no muscle. just want alittle more definition. and maintain that and never get this fat again. even when i run bulkers. i will sacrifice acouple pounds of gains for less fat. i want to be 200-220 cut up somday. and strong as hell.

Well my shot from yesterday in the glute is totally fine today. I guess my muscle has got used to the prop/tren. so ill do another glute shot and than try quad again in a few days. I would love to shoot quads and feel fine later from it, cause its so nice and simple just sitting and asperating and doing everything perfect.

All my flu symptoms are gone now. so my workouts are good again. I killed back/Bi's yesterday hardcore. still dont think im feeling anything positive from the cycle yet though. Im thinkin in about 4 more days hopfully.
 
for sure man. haha new avatar is awome.
worked legs today. horrible leg workout cause my ass cheeks and quads were so damn sore. and my knee just wont ever heal. Looks like i wont be pushing legs to hard on this cycle unless my knee gets better. put another 2.5cc into my other ass cheek today. this one hurts again damnit. i can barely work anything with legs with all this pain. and cardio is close to impossible too. Think im gonna order a filter and add grape seed oil to all my injections. cause its hard to get leaner when you cant do cardio. The tren kinda makes my heart feel like its fluttering too when i do intense lifting and cardio... propably not good. haha im breathing like a fat guy all the time too. Im feeling a good pump, but i know this isnt the full effect yet. Thats what im waiting for
 
did another quad shot this morning, i can tell that this is gonna fuckin hurt again tomorrow. im alreayd limping. tomorrow ill propably barely be able to walk again. I ordered some prefiltered grape seed oil that im gonna try mixing with the prop and tren in the syringe, im hoping really bad that this helps. Cause i cant work legs like this. Tomorrow morning im gonna try a shoulder shot and im pretty sure im gonna regret that too. haha
Im pretty much just feeling some sides still, and my face gets bright red in the gym.. i kinda feel like everyone knows again. It doesnt look to healthy. looks like my face is gonna explode when im lifting. everyday that i workout im just hoping that im a beast, and although im still feeling pretty good i know its gonna get better. I want like 5 more days to pass. I wanna see my body start changing.
 
shot shoulder this morning (first shoulder shot) i just couldnt really believe the needle would go all the way in without hitting a bone or somthing haha. But it sank right in. One of the easiest ways to shoot. So far its just alittle sore. But i think i can still workout fine today. Gonna go work shoulders and calves. I know by tomorrow if ill keep shootin shoulders or not.
So far still not feeling like its totally kicked in. if i dont feel somthing more in 6 days im gonna start questioning my gear. But im pretty sure its legit cause im getting all the sides of everything. Just none of the good shit yet.
 
Well i think its actually just starting too. I just got back from the gym, worked shoulders and calvs. And i definately had one of my best shoulder workouts. And my whole body was pumped after like 10 minutes my shirt was definately alot tighter. Im sure that its kickin in now. But i think after 2 more days ill be way more aggressive in the gym.
Also i havnt started the winny yet. I was gonna start that on week 4
 
Fatboy1984 said:
Well i think its actually just starting too. I just got back from the gym, worked shoulders and calvs. And i definately had one of my best shoulder workouts. And my whole body was pumped after like 10 minutes my shirt was definately alot tighter. Im sure that its kickin in now. But i think after 2 more days ill be way more aggressive in the gym.
Also i havnt started the winny yet. I was gonna start that on week 4
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Good to hear! LEt me know if the EOD shooting is worth it in the end because id rather just pin 1x a week. Good log bro
 
Thinkin my stuff may be really underdosed so im giving this a few more days and im quiting this cycle if nothin kicks in stronge soon. Very pissed if this is the case
 
Haha of course somone had to ask that question.
Only 1 so far. and ive ran some oral cycles before that. (if those count)
 
Just got my real shit in. So im starting all over again.
Did first injection with the real stuff. and it went great. Didnt even hurt. I have no idea what was in that other stuff i was using, but it was nothing like this.
Ill keep updating again how i feel. I know this stuff is good to go. and im happy again.
 
fatboy1984 said:
just got my real shit in. So im starting all over again.
Did first injection with the real stuff. And it went great. Didnt even hurt. I have no idea what was in that other stuff i was using, but it was nothing like this.
Ill keep updating again how i feel. I know this stuff is good to go. And im happy again.
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yes!!!!!!
 
2nd shot again today. Went smooth as butter. Hardly any pain or uncomfort from either shot. This is amazing compared to whatever the fuck the other shit i was using was.
Gonna do shoulders the next two days. and since this stuff seems tolerable gonna try shooting quads again.
Today im working shoulders and calvs. and im gonna destroy them.
 
went good. Did a shoulder shot today. Went pretty smooth, but actually hurts this time. Itll propably go away. It shouldnt really effect my workouts to much. I also got the tren cough from this shot. and i can already feel the tren messing with my lungs and throat. Its crazy. I barely felt this at all with the stuff that was bunk. now just 3 days in and im kinda scared. haha.
Ill see what happens. That cough is a scary feeling. Feels like you cant breath, and your heart is racing. Doesnt feel to healthy.
 
Shot my other shoulder today. Went smooth. No cough this time. Throat is kinda sore. Im guessing its from the tren. Im feeling my muscles harder for sure just sitting around and stuff. and im out of breath just walking to the kitchen. Still not feeling insane pumps in the gym yet or anything, but im sure itll come soon.

Worked back and bi's yesterday, had a pretty good workout. Was pissed cause i was weighin 190 after loosing alittle wieght from my diet,and getting bunk gear, to start my diet with. lost about 7 pounds. But im back upto 193 and the mirrore tells me im alittle bit leaner lookin. I think just mostly from diet.
 
5 days in today. I think weight is slowly goin up, cause today i was 194, and im not fatter. Not lookin to much leaner though either yet. Im gonna cut out more cals next week. Not feeling horny at all. i think tren kills my sex drive. i can cum, but i dont really care too. waayy different feelin than my last cycle. My tren sides are coming and going. I get somtimes outa no where. and than there gone. Im sleeping ok, ill get night sweats on and off. Im actually hoping i start to look and feel freakish with what everyone says about tren.
I know every one would be agains this since its my second cycle.... but since day three ive been doin .75 tren ed. and 100 prop ed.
Hoping somthing good happens haha
 
lookin good bro. I can't wait to start mine December. I'm on the tail end of my PCT from an aborted cycle due to a broken thumb. I'm gonna give it one month after PCT all natural before starting cycle again. Mine is exactly like yours, TrenATestPWinny
 
thanks man.
Ya youll propably love it. Have you ran tren before? i remember reading about you aborting your cycle cause your thumb. thats gay man. I hate dumb crap like that. Stupid little injuries that can ruin your workouts.

Today is day 6 and i injected my other glute today. Noticed that ihave white discolored spots on my but. Dont know what thats from. Cant feel em. Hopfully they go away cause its kinda wierd. Today my bad knee what feeling have way descent so i descided to work legs. Worked what i could super hard. But squats and most the heavy weight things for legs are kinda out of the question right now, unfortunately.
 
On day 10 today. about to go work chest/ tris. Im def feelin everything more now. and im seeing alittle change in my body finally. Gonna cut alot more cals out of diet next monday and see what happens.
 
Today is day 15. These ED shots are killin me. Just got some shorter needles (25g 5/8s) Gonna start using those for shoulders and tri/s. If that still doesnt feel like enough than ill try Bis too. haha at least im over my fear of needles now. Today im really starting to feel like a beast. and even though im not eating much my strength went up a good amount today. repped the 120 DB's for flat bench for 7. Got 255 x6 on incline bench. and just killed my Tris afterwards.
My shot today gave me the tren cough shit. and than it kinda lasted all day. I really feel it in my lungs. and i have a headache. Its all tolerable... but barely. Im still weighing 195 but im just alittle leaner. This monday is when the real diet begins.
 
yeah im hoping it gets more crazy. I just hate dieting on a cycle. Im having a hard time cause i want to get my gains haha. But if i was dieting not on a cycle id be way weaker and propably already down to 185. starting next week i really gota start getting some of my belly off though.
Im just gonna loose enough fat so i can bulk with alittle less body fat. i think i can hit 210-215 on my next bulker so thats my goal.

Today i shot my tri for the first time. Wasnt to bad. ill see how it feels tomorrow.
TOmorrow ill shoot my other tri. might try my bis too just see whats better. seems like bis would effect my workouts more.. but ill see.
 
KeyserSoze. said:
tren cause u to get a cough? ive never heard of this. how does this happen?
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Usualy when you nic or go through a vein and a small amount goes into your blood and hits your lungs it farkin sux big time , i thought i was dying a couple of times lol, and yes it lasts allday in your chest , with me any way.

Sorry mate i missed the start sound like its a killer cycle with what your running just painful gear .

I thing your first pic is a little perky to lol .....i like that stack but ,should lean and harden you up big time mate .

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Brad.
 
Haha,
Thanks guys,
yeah when the tren cough shit happens i definately feel that shit like all day. But for 5-10 You for sure feel like your not gonna make it haha.
Im about 4 days away from week 4. On week 4 im starting my oral winny for 6 weeks. Unless i start to loose to much hair, or joints start to hurt to bad. Im kinda used to the tren now i guess cause im not having to much sides from it anymore. I kinda liked the sides though cause i knew it was working. But im still using the same shit and i know its good. im just getting used to it or somthing. Im actually down to about 190 now. Which kinda sucks but i honestly doubt ive lost any muscle. Im eating about 2300 cals right now. and under 100 carbs. I wont let myself go under 185 though. even if i still have fat left.
I cant believe with all the calories ive cut that ive still managed to get alittle stronger. Today i did the DB military press with 100s, didnt have a spot or anything and repped them 6 times. Think i maybe could have got 10. streight legged DL is upto 405 x3 bench is still about 300 x2 (unfortunately)
All in all i had very high hopes for tren. and im loving it. But like all steroids.. its still no miracle. Diet it training is key.
 
Had another insane ass workout today. Back/ Bi's. I was so fucking pumped it was incredible. I felt like double the size of when i walked in.
My nipple lumps are starting to come back pretty bad, But its all good. Im triing to keep them in check the best i can. But i know that if all else fails that letro gets rid of it afterwards for me.
Im still alittle stronger even with my lower calories, and my whole body is taking a different shape. Im much broader on top, and my lats are really flaring out alot more, which i like cause i naturally have a really wide waste. The bigger i can get ontop the smaller my waste will look. Still slowly loosing fat, and will take more cals out again this next monday. Than ill be down to about 2000 the rest of the cycle.
Starting the winny in 2 days
 
I'm watching your progress closely as I have an exact cycle like yours starting in December. In particular report how bad the winny is on your joints and hairline. Luckily my moms father had a full head of hair but genetics is only partly responsible for mpb.
 
Thanks guys. Yeah everything is still goin good. Im def lookin better. and at least as strong as i was before i started dieting. Alittle stronger actually. im weighin 191. My shoulders are lookin way wider to me, and im seeing more definition everywhere. Abs still suck though. I can see the tops of them and thats all. I dont know if ill reveal them to much on this cycle. Im just getting to where i dont look to horrible for when i bulk again, so that i dont start off fat.
Today was my second day on winny. So far dont feel any different from it. maybe alittle more tired. Ill keep you updated though with hair loss and joint pain though elgenyo
 
Ive been eating only about1800 calories since this monday, im really starting to see results now, although my weight is going down and im pissed. haha. I wont let myself go below 185 if it comes to that.
The winny is kickin in alittle. No sore joints or anything from it that i can tell so far. Or hair loss.. but im also taking toco 8 to help with that. definately getting more vascular. My gyno lumps have started to go crazy. thinkin im gonna have to break down and start taking alittle letro during the cycle. Im eating less than 30 carbs a day right now.
All in all im pretty happy with this cycle. Theres no way i could shed fat like this and only eat the calories that im eating and stay strong and loose minimaul muscle without all this shit. Id be super week right now without the AAS
 
Still feeling crazy, and keep cutting more cals. This last week i have been getting super vascular. Where i almost look gross while im lifting. I can hardly see any viens when im not lifting. But the second my body is underload, theres veins in my chest, neck, arms and shoulders that look pretty freakish. It definately makes me look like im on somthing. And everyone keeps looking at me in the corner of there eyes while im at the gym. So i know im still changing and loving it. Still cant wait to bulk again though. haha
 
stopped cycle alittle bit early yesterday. So it was more like 8 weeks. Had high BP. Passed out at work. Had blood in urine. Guess this cycle wasnt to healthy. Not feeling so great so im doing my PCT and taking alittle time off makin sure my blood work is in check.
These last two weeks i was gonna hit the diet even harder. So it kinda sucks.
Ill post some after pics although there not that special. soon (next couple days)
 
haha. Its long cause ive had alot of problems right at first with this cycle, cause i got some bunk gear. Took me 3 weeks to know for sure. So i stopped and purchased good gear and started over. And everything was going pretty great. Than i started getting horrible high BP symptoms. i took my BP and it was 95/170 ish. So i was taking supps and drinking alot of water to try and get it down, but it was staying around that for about a week. Than the last couple days i was feelin really bad. Went to work triing to force myself through the day, and i was hosting a meeting at my work. My BP propably goes up alittle when im talking in front of a group anyway (and this time it was spur of the moment) and i passed out. haha. I went to the doc afterwards. My BP was 105/200 and i just felt horrible. he did a blood test and EKG and urinalisist. I am waiting on parts of the Blood test. He says my red blood cell count is low (which surprised me cause last time it was low) and i had blood in my urine. Ill know more after my follow up on monday. Thought i should come off early though. So i stopped today. Ill give my body a break. Tomorow ill start feeling better hopfully.
 
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