Test Prop & EQ cycle please critique

[CavaCA]

I plan on doing my 3rd cycle in the next month or two and I want to finalize and make any adjustments during that time.

I have done two previous cycles. 1st was 250mg/week of omna for 10 weeks along with 20mg of dbol for 6 weeks (gained 20lbs).

2nd cycle did 350mg/week of prop with 75 mg of fina ed. I felt nauseated most of the time on this cycle. gained 12lbs but lost body fat. I'm much leaner looking than when I started. I didn't keep much in the way of body wt but I did gain more muscle. I just had a body recomposition. If that makes sense. Don't know if I'll use fina again because of the nausea.

Body wt is 220 @5'10, don't know body fat but can see abs.

3rd cycle I'm planning on doing looks like this:

week 1: 700mg prop(100mg ed) + 1200 mg EQ (shots Monday-Saturday 200mg each)

weeks 2-11: 700mg prop/week(100mg/day)

weeks 2-8: 600 mg EQ/week (M-W-F injections at 200mg each)

weeks 9-10: 300mg EQ/week (M-W-F injections at 100mg each)


I only have enough EQ for 300mg the final two weeks since I front loaded the first week at 1200mg.

I'm not sure if I should start the post cycle therapy during week 12 or 13. I thinking of giving it to week 13 to start therapy.

I will have nolva and clomid on hand as well as arimidex.

What do you think?
thanks.

 

[gilly6993]

personally I would do 1.5 cc's ed.....100 prop and 50 mg EQ......that's 700 of each every week.....don't know if you have enough EQ though.....

 

[TECH ONE]

I wouldn't front load the EQ, just run it at 600mg for 10 weeks. You should also consider running the prop right up till you start clomid, that way you won't have that shitty down time between your cycle and clomid!! I've done this with my past few cycles and have maintained better gains than before!

Week 1-11, Prop @ 700mg/week
Week 1-10, EQ @ 600mg/week
Week 11-Clomid, Prop @ 500mg/week
Then start Clomid a few days after your last prop shot!!

Good luck with the cycle bro!!!

 

[The Shadow]

week 1: 700mg prop(100mg ed) + 1200 mg EQ (shots Monday-Saturday 200mg each)

weeks 2-11: 700mg prop/week(100mg/day)

weeks 2-8: 600 mg EQ/week (M-W-F injections at 200mg each)

weeks 9-10: 300mg EQ/week (M-W-F injections at 100mg each)


B]

I assume you are sticking the prop ed??

If so, why not add a touch of EQ to every prop inject?

Or is that what you are doing?

I ask because its difficult to tell....

 

[The Shadow]

I wouldn't front load the EQ, just run it at 600mg for 10 weeks. You should also consider running the prop right up till you start clomid, that way you won't have that shitty down time between your cycle and clomid!! I've done this with my past few cycles and have maintained better gains than before!

Week 1-11, Prop @ 700mg/week
Week 1-10, EQ @ 600mg/week
Week 11-Clomid, Prop @ 500mg/week
Then start Clomid a few days after your last prop shot!!

Good luck with the cycle bro!!!

Frontload the EQ and get the benefits in week 3 versus week 5.....


btw - starting clomid the week after your last eq shot isnt the best way to do that either as eq has a fairly long half life..and you certainly dont want to run the prop and the clomid together.

 

[CavaCA]

I'll be hitting the prop ed and I plan on frontloading the eq. Like you said, I'd like to see the benefits in 3 weeks as opposed to 5.

So maybe start the clomid after, what, about 10 days or so after the last EQ shot?

Any other suggestions, Thanks.

 

[The Shadow]

I'll be hitting the prop ed and I plan on frontloading the eq. Like you said, I'd like to see the benefits in 3 weeks as opposed to 5.

So maybe start the clomid after, what, about 10 days or so after the last EQ shot?

Any other suggestions, Thanks.

well....it depends on what you last shot is....in your initial lay-out I would suggest a 10-14 days after the last eq shot....that would include two half-live degradations....so 75% should be out of the system....might be a little soon, but I would start then

 

[CavaCA]

Thanks for the advice, I hear different things about EQ's half life so I wanted to get some feed back. Appreciate your help. I can't wait to start!!!!!!!

 

[Willyumyum]

well....it depends on what you last shot is....in your initial lay-out I would suggest a 10-14 days after the last eq shot....that would include two half-live degradations....so 75% should be out of the system....might be a little soon, but I would start then

I'd agree with this, although I usually wait until about 17 days after the last EQ shot..

I might re-arrange the cycle a little bit, just so you don't have a lot of down time off the gear, before you start recovery..

So i'd say:
(figure out the day-scheduling so you end prop 3 days before you would start clomid if you had the cycle setup the way you initially did), so something like this:

Week 3-13, Prop @ 700mg/week
Week 1-10, EQ @ 600mg/week
Week 13-Clomid, Prop @ 500mg/week

You could bump the test down a bit, and run it a little longer instead of starting it later, but either way - i'd set it up so my last shot of prop was 3 days before i start clomid...

YUM

 

[joshbb1]

front loading EQ

I've never heard of front loading EQ. VETS - Does this technique work? I would love to find a way around the 5 week waiting period!
As for the prop, I usually start my clomid about 3 or 4 days after the last prop shot. The reason is because prop is a very fast acting test, with a very short half life. As opposed to sust (or omna). - josh