Test Levels high...

[yourmomgoestocollege]

4 weeks in I just got some blood work back. Everything was great. Cholesterol was 107, Triglycerides, 117, liver enzymes normal...not too bad.

Test was 1190, 1080 is the top of the range. I am only running 500mg a week test-e right now. Is that normal to be that high?

 

[halfcenturian]

That's high, but not for 500mg/week. Did your Dr. give you any heat?

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

That's high, but not for 500mg/week. Did your Dr. give you any heat?

I guess I should have mentioned that. He knows I use and while he doesn't like it, he is smart enough to know enough about it to keep me in line. I go back at the end of the month where I am sure he will probably be a little pissed. When the results came back the nurse was kinda laughing and I heard another nurse in the background say Whew...that boy must be ready to go every 5 minutes. Pretty damn funny! True also!

 

[Nelson Montana]

You should expect levels to be beyond the "normal." That's not even that high considering an extra 500 mgs which suggests to me your natural level may be suppressed.

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

You should expect levels to be beyond the "normal." That's not even that high considering an extra 500 mgs which suggests to me your natural level may be suppressed.

Ok, I had heard this before and now I am a little concerned. I guess it was probably high the them because they probably don't see those ranges that often. But like you said, and most would know here, its not that high I guess. I never really noticed my test levels before so it appears I was misinformed.

I think I might be suppressed a bit actually. F^%....

 

[slamminshaun]

Is there a rough rule-of-thumb to estimate how much your levels can go up by? For example, if you have a level of 340 and take 200mg of Test Enthanate per week, what would you expect your levels to climb to? Roughly speaking...

Also, for optimum (and safe) muscle growth....is there an ideal Test level to be at?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Is there a rough rule-of-thumb to estimate how much your levels can go up by? For example, if you have a level of 340 and take 200mg of Test Enthanate per week, what would you expect your levels to climb to? Roughly speaking...

Also, for optimum (and safe) muscle growth....is there an ideal Test level to be at?

It's more about how much is available, (Free T) not the total T. Total T too much over 1000 starts producing problems.

 

[njmuscleguy]

It blows my mind that people are alarmed that their test levels shoot up to 1,000+ and much much higher when taking in 500mg of test (or more).

If I'm not mistaken, the body produces around 6-9mg natural test per day...and this gives an average reading of something like 280 - 1200ng for healthy men in the 20's and 30's. So even a dosage of 200mg of test, which most guys tend to laugh at, will spike your test levels considerably.

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

It blows my mind that people are alarmed that their test levels shoot up to 1,000+ and much much higher when taking in 500mg of test (or more).

If I'm not mistaken, the body produces around 6-9mg natural test per day...and this gives an average reading of something like 280 - 1200ng for healthy men in the 20's and 30's. So even a dosage of 200mg of test, which most guys tend to laugh at, will spike your test levels considerably.

I have never had my test levels shared with me by my doc before. This time I was more curious and was told it was high by a DOCTOR. I am 31 years old so still in the average range. This is what I found...

Normal

Normal values may vary from lab to lab. Your doctor will have your test results in 1 to 2 days.

Age
Total Testosterone

7 months to 9 years
Less than 30 ng/dL

10 to 13 years
Less than 300 ng/dL

14 to 15 years
170 to 540 ng/dL

16 to 19 years
250 to 910 ng/dL

20 years and older
280 to 1080 ng/dL

Normal free testosterone level is 0.3 to 2 pg/mL.

High values

* In men, a high level of testosterone may be caused by cancer of the testicles or adrenal glands.
* In boys younger than 10, a high level of testosterone may mean early (precocious) puberty, a tumor in the testicles, or an abnormal adrenal gland.
* In women, a high level of testosterone may be caused by cancer of the ovaries or adrenal glands or polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS).

Low values

* In men or boys who have gone through puberty, a low level of testosterone may be caused by a problem with the testicles, such as slow development of, an injury to, or a lack of testicles. It can also be caused from treatment with the female hormone estrogen, a problem with the pituitary gland, or many long-term (chronic) illnesses.
* A low testosterone level in men can also be caused by certain inherited diseases (such as Klinefelter syndrome or Down syndrome), liver disease (cirrhosis), or treatment for cancer of the prostate gland.
* Chronic alcohol use can cause a low testosterone level.

 

[al_ny]

that is nothing. i am on hrt. before i took any test my test level were 380. after taking 150 mg of test cyp for 3 months my levels to 1,070. in sept 07 i did my first real cycle 250 mg per week of test p and 50 mg ed of anavar for 10 weeks. 7 days after my last shot of test p had a blood test and my test levels were still high 1,320. i though test p was suppose to leave your system fast due to the short ester. my doctor was not too happy with me.

 

[Singleton]

You should expect levels to be beyond the "normal." That's not even that high considering an extra 500 mgs which suggests to me your natural level may be suppressed.

No it suggests that the gear is underdosed.

 

[njmuscleguy]

that is nothing. i am on hrt. before i took any test my test level were 380. after taking 150 mg of test testosterone cypionate for 3 months my levels to 1,070. in sept 07 i did my first real cycle 250 mg per week of test p and 50 mg ed of anavar for 10 weeks. 7 days after my last shot of test p had a blood test and my test levels were still high 1,320. i though test p was suppose to leave your system fast due to the short ester. my doctor was not too happy with me.

people don't realize that even shorter-acting esters (of anything) still have long-term effects on the body's natural levels....test levels take a while to come down even with prop....and liver & cholesterol levels take longer than a month in many cases...so anyone on hrt needs to keep all this in mind if they're going to fly under the radar with their doctor

 

[slamminshaun]

that is nothing. i am on hrt. before i took any test my test level were 380. after taking 150 mg of test testosterone cypionate for 3 months my levels to 1,070. in sept 07 i did my first real cycle 250 mg per week of test p and 50 mg ed of anavar for 10 weeks. 7 days after my last shot of test p had a blood test and my test levels were still high 1,320. i though test p was suppose to leave your system fast due to the short ester. my doctor was not too happy with me.

Whoa! No shit? So in my case, my Test level was 340....my doctor is putting me on Test Enthanate at 200mg/week for 3 months. You're saying there's a chance I might actually hit the 1,000 level off this dosage? That would be nuts if that's really the case...what do you think guys?

 

[daveyboy2345]

75-150 mgs of test week is ideal for hrt purposes.

 

[leonidas33]

Whoa! No shit? So in my case, my Test level was 340....my doctor is putting me on Test Enthanate at 200mg/week for 3 months. You're saying there's a chance I might actually hit the 1,000 level off this dosage? That would be nuts if that's really the case...what do you think guys?

i think there is a very good chance to hit that if not more... i was 2 weeks out on my short tren/test cycle of roughly 600mg/week test and then back on my hrt of 200mg/wk and my level was 1868. My doc told me to reduce whatever i am doing by 30% (he's a good bro and doesn't ask exact details of what i am doing).

 

[slamminshaun]

i think there is a very good chance to hit that if not more... i was 2 weeks out on my short trenbolone/test cycle of roughly 600mg/week test and then back on my hrt of 200mg/wk and my level was 1868. My doc told me to reduce whatever i am doing by 30% (he's a good bro and doesn't ask exact details of what i am doing).

Assuming diet, training, etc is good, can you expect good results from boosting your test level to around 1,000? That's still technically within the normal range, but a whole hell of a lot higher than where I am now. Is there a such thing as an "ideal test level" for muscle growth?

 

[leonidas33]

Assuming diet, training, etc is good, can you expect good results from boosting your test level to around 1,000? That's still technically within the normal range, but a whole hell of a lot higher than where I am now. Is there a such thing as an "ideal test level" for muscle growth?

if this is your first cycle (or first time to ever boost your test levels up), then yes, you can expect some pretty remarkable results.

 

[artificialaspirations]

What problems manifest at levels over a grand?

 

[al_ny]

Whoa! No shit? So in my case, my Test level was 340....my doctor is putting me on Test Enthanate at 200mg/week for 3 months. You're saying there's a chance I might actually hit the 1,000 level off this dosage? That would be nuts if that's really the case...what do you think guys?

i should be around 1,000. that is usually the goal of hrt to have test levels around 1,000 but each doctor is different.