Test-LESS Cycles?

[rykertest]

I am usually one of the many that insists that test be included in every cycle. However as I research an EQ/Proviron cycle for later this year, It got me to thinking about the reasons behind WHY test should be included. I know it is a must in a males body and using most gear (if not all) shuts you down or supresses that natural production. But I'm looking for your vets and mods to help me with this.

WHY is test needed in each cycle?

K for all helpful replies. Thanks in advance.

 

[scout69]

Test is always an added plus in a cycle, It is really the main component in every cycle but do not let it fool you I have done Winny cycles alone many times, Deca cycles alone, Just to name two real quick and have always had nice results...

 

[boxerjake]

It's a synergy thing .... test makes it all work better

I've done many cycles in the past that were test free and enjoyed the results i expected to see . Primo and var for instance and both very low or non suppresive at the right dosage , great gains here for beginers who have high test levels already .

EQ and winny i've done together with no test , I was very lean and involved in many sports at the time so the vascularity was crazy and noticed by all .

 

[TEX25]

Test helps the synergistic values of a cycle. It also helps with libido and erectile issues as well.

Nothing wrong with doing cycles without test if you are running the right gear. I like anavar and creatine!

 

[big_boy_1]

I am usually one of the many that insists that test be included in every cycle. However as I research an EQ/Proviron cycle for later this year, It got me to thinking about the reasons behind WHY test should be included. I know it is a must in a males body and using most gear (if not all) shuts you down or supresses that natural production. But I'm looking for your vets and mods to help me with this.

WHY is test needed in each cycle?

K for all helpful replies. Thanks in advance.

the milder anabolics, read: deca, eq, winny, var, primo work mainly trough the androgen receptor.

the get ultimate growth you also need non-androgen receptor growth pathways, dbol, adrol and test do so.
Of this ones, test is safer to use at higher doses for longer periods.

 

[bigrand]

Test makes me feel like ass crack sandwiches.
Nandrolones all the way.

 

[instant.muscle]

some steroids shut down ur test, therefore if u wanna feel good u need it, plus its fucking test, its the shiznit

 

[rykertest]

good replies guys, bump for more feedback.

 

[krishna]

If you ask me, it's harder to recover and keep your gains from cycles with test. Granted, recovering can also be an issue with other gear such as nandrolones, but not if you take the necessary precautions.

 

[rykertest]

If you ask me, it's harder to recover and keep your gains from cycles with test. Granted, recovering can also be an issue with other gear such as nandrolones, but not if you take the necessary precautions.

True and this is not a nand. but a bold. so it in theory could be slightly easier, however I am hoping to run it for 20 weeks. Is it the dosage or the duration (or both) that causes the shutdown/suppression?

 

[a creed]

You're either one or the other

1.) shut down
2.) not shut down

No matter what dose you run, EQ will shut you down.

 

[ricorico]

3 reasons.....its cheap, effective and makes you feel good

 

[a creed]

3 reasons.....its cheap, effective and makes you feel good

**word**

 

[rykertest]

You're either one or the other

1.) shut down
2.) not shut down

No matter what dose you run, EQ will shut you down.

I don't agree. There has to be a period of time where you are just suppressed. Thanks itln.

 

[a creed]

I don't agree. There has to be a period of time where you are just suppressed. Thanks itln.

Why do you always think you're "exposing me" when you put my original screen name at the end of everyone of your posts. I take the time to answer your posts, and you're still a wise ass.

Grow up.............

 

[rykertest]

Why do you always think you're "exposing me" when you put my original screen name at the end of everyone of your posts. I take the time to answer your posts, and you're still a wise ass.

Grow up.............

to avoid any further drama, please just put me on ignore as I am you. I think it's safe to say we won't have a constructive conversation and I'm sure you will agree we don't need any more arguments or drama on EF. Lets just nip it in the bud and stop it right here and now. Fair enough?