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bachy

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can anyone give me advice on this cycle? i bought this cycle before looking into equipoise, and have now found out that i should be doing eq for around 14 weeks, i cant get hold of any eq to extend this course from the 8 week supply i have already got. I currently have:

20ml 200mg eq
30ml 200mg Test enanthate

I planned to do 2.5ml/wk eq and 3ml/week of test for 8 week. Is it pointless doin the eq for 8 week? i cant get hold of any more so should i run it or just leave it and try something differrnt?
 
bachy said:
can anyone give me advice on this cycle? i bought this cycle before looking into equipoise, and have now found out that i should be doing eq for around 14 weeks, i cant get hold of any eq to extend this course from the 8 week supply i have already got. I currently have:

20ml 200mg eq
30ml 200mg Test enanthate

I planned to do 2.5ml/wk eq and 3ml/week of test for 8 week. Is it pointless doin the eq for 8 week? i cant get hold of any more so should i run it or just leave it and try something differrnt?

The general concensus is that EQ starts to kick in around week 8 (give or take a week) so you would be stopping right when it is starting to work. Also, it should be run at at least 400 MG's a week or it is (in my opinion) a waste of time and money. Other than that, I have run EQ at 400 and test e at 250 a week for 15 weeks with GREAT results. Good lean muscle mass, very low sides and keepable gains (if not for some injuries I had) I would STRONGLY reccomend you get more EQ and run it at 400. You will be VERY dissapointed if you don't.
 
25homes said:
Go 10 weeks with eq at 400mg and maybe by midcycle your source will have more EQ>.

I disagree. ALWAYS have EVERYTHING you need to do a complete cycle at the doses you want BEFORE starting it. This means anti e's/a's test, eq, multi's, etc, etc.
 
25homes said:
Go 10 weeks with eq at 400mg and maybe by midcycle your source will have more EQ>.

My luck is never good and my source is never reliable, if it falls through would there be any benifits at all from 400mg for 10 week?
 
bachy said:
My luck is never good and my source is never reliable, if it falls through would there be any benifits at all from 400mg for 10 week?

You will get some varying answer on this but my personal opinion is that any benefit you get is minimul at best from 10 weeks. There are those that front load, but that won't help you as you still don't have enough gear. If it were me no matter how bad I wanted to start my cycle, I would not start unless I can commit to 14 weeks. Even at 10 weeks, you are quitting 2-3 weeks after it kicks in as opposed to having it kick in at saay week 8, then running it for another 6 weeks man. You won't be happy with 10, you just won't be.
 
wayneboard1 said:
You will get some varying answer on this but my personal opinion is that any benefit you get is minimul at best from 10 weeks. There are those that front load, but that won't help you as you still don't have enough gear. If it were me no matter how bad I wanted to start my cycle, I would not start unless I can commit to 14 weeks. Even at 10 weeks, you are quitting 2-3 weeks after it kicks in as opposed to having it kick in at saay week 8, then running it for another 6 weeks man. You won't be happy with 10, you just won't be.

I understand what you mean, thanks buddy!!
 
wayneboard1 said:
I disagree. ALWAYS have EVERYTHING you need to do a complete cycle at the doses you want BEFORE starting it. This means anti e's/a's test, eq, multi's, etc, etc.

What is he suppose to do other than dont start a cycle til you get more EQ?? or start cycle without EQ....just an option with the circumstances I wouldnt do that but he might not have a choice....
 
wayneboard1 said:
You are welcome. You are going to run it for 10 weeks regarldess aren't you? :)

lol a few month ago i would have done. If people are willing to help me, Im willing to learn. Im working at the gym tonight so I'll have a word with some people i know there. I dont wanna start and be pissed off with myself just cz I couldnt wait. I've done it before!!
 
25homes said:
What is he suppose to do other than dont start a cycle til you get more EQ?? or start cycle without EQ....just an option with the circumstances I wouldnt do that but he might not have a choice....


What else is he supposed to do? You said it yourself; "don't start a cycle til he gets mroe EQ". Don't do gear just because you have it or run a half assed cycle. Thats like wiping before you poop; makes no sense. Do it right, or don't do it at all; it's just that simple.
 
bachy said:
lol a few month ago i would have done. If people are willing to help me, Im willing to learn. Im working at the gym tonight so I'll have a word with some people i know there. I dont wanna start and be pissed off with myself just cz I couldnt wait. I've done it before!!

I appreciate your honesty, it's refreshing. Everyone (myself included) wants to start right away, but doing it right is more important. If you have knowledgable people to consult, then by all means do so. It seems you only need some more EQ and arimidex (or liquidex) and you are set. What size darts are you going to use? I reccomend 23 gauge 1.5" darts to draw and stick with. It takes a little bit longer to draw (a few seconds actually) and then stick away. Good luck bro.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I appreciate your honesty, it's refreshing. Everyone (myself included) wants to start right away, but doing it right is more important. If you have knowledgable people to consult, then by all means do so. It seems you only need some more EQ and arimidex (or liquidex) and you are set. What size darts are you going to use? I reccomend 23 gauge 1.5" darts to draw and stick with. It takes a little bit longer to draw (a few seconds actually) and then stick away. Good luck bro.

I meant i was going to ask people about their source, might have come across wrong that 1. Thanks for the advice buddy!im new to using forums and am suprised with how much help recieved!!Much appreciated!!
 
bachy said:
I meant i was going to ask people about their source, might have come across wrong that 1. Thanks for the advice buddy!im new to using forums and am suprised with how much help recieved!!Much appreciated!!


No problem. FOr some good information, read the sticky at the top of the forum here by Mr.X about "bewbies read here first". Lots of good info there.
 
wayneboard1 said:
No problem. FOr some good information, read the sticky at the top of the forum here by Mr.X about "bewbies read here first". Lots of good info there.


Ditto- On everything Wayne said...14 weeks / 400mg EQ is optimum...you will not even notice anything until about 8 weeks..less than 400mg is probably a waste unless you are a buck 50 then you might get away with 300mgs
 
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