test/eq feedback

[upperhandy]

34 y
6'
205 #
15%

will be 17 weeks since my last cycle (12 week dbol/test e/var) very soon and I'm thinking about running another

will be second well researched cycle
first cycle 195# 20% to 205# 15% after PCT
would like to end up 215# and 10-12% after PCT

thinking about:
1-4 dbol 25mg ed
1-16 test e 500mg ew
1-14 eq 600 mg ew
15-18 winny 50mg ed
1-18 Adex 0.25mg ed
1-18 finasteride 1.25mg ed
1-18 hCG 500 i.u. ew
pct
19-22 nolva 20/20/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/25

thoughts?

thanks

 

[bostonianboss]

I am doing something Very similar. Personally I wouldnt run Winny longer than your Test and I think 18 weeks is FAR to long. I also personally think that is too much for second cycle. You are my age, keep it simple. For second cycle I would recommend Test and dbol or Test and winny. Find out what you react to and what you dont. I personally am not a fan of Nolva or clomid. From all of my research, run HCG through your cycle. I am no expert, so i will leave it up to our resident experts to chime in. All i know is that you need to take a look at your cycle again. -Boston

 

[upperhandy]

double post

 

[upperhandy]

I am doing something Very similar. Personally I wouldnt run Winny longer than your Test and I think 18 weeks is FAR to long. I also personally think that is too much for second cycle. You are my age, keep it simple. For second cycle I would recommend Test and dbol or Test and winny. Find out what you react to and what you dont. I personally am not a fan of Nolva or clomid. From all of my research, run HCG through your cycle. I am no expert, so i will leave it up to our resident experts to chime in. All i know is that you need to take a look at your cycle again. -Boston

Well, I'm not running any single compound for 18 weeks, but yes technically it's an 18 week cycle (I look at it as a 16 week test cycle though). I would do another 12 week cycle, but I have heard over and over again anything less than 14-15 weeks of EQ (at 500-600mgs/wk min) is a waste. I plan to use the winny at the end to help lean me out a bit and to keep the androgen level in my blood up as I head into pct. the half life of winny is ridiculously short, and it can therefore be run up to the day before pct.

i did a nolva/clomid combo for my last pct and it worked wonders for me.

hCG too much/long?

 

[shibs]

the cycle is too long to run the hcg all the way through without a break.. do this

3-8 250 iu every 4 days
2 week break
11-16 250iu every 4 days

 

[upperhandy]

the cycle is too long to run the hcg all the way through without a break.. do this

3-8 250 iu every 4 days
2 week break
11-16 250iu every 4 days

shibs-

can you elaborate on this.
is this b/c of the risk for LH desensitization in the testes?

is that a factor at this low of a dose?

thanks

 

[shibs]

the reason why you have to take a break is because if you use hcg for too long your body becomes used to it and the hcg will lose its effectiveness. the hcg will keep your testes functioning and will prevent shutdown. you can read more on it here; The Official PCT Thread - Primordial Performance Discussion Forums

just scroll down to the hcg part, good luck hope this helps

 

[upperhandy]

alright... makes sense to take a couple of weeks off... i will look into that

any feedback on the cycle itself?

thanks!

 

[goin on 4T]

I would just run the HCG at the end of the cycle.
Have you ever run EQ?

 

[upperhandy]

never run eq before...
have compounds i have run are Sus, test-e, deca, dbol, and var

 

[goin on 4T]

EQ is great for me, prefer it to other compounds such as tren. You can get a little anxiety for a few weeks but that will go away after a while.

 

[Discreet User]

34 y
6'
205 #
15%

will be 17 weeks since my last cycle (12 week dbol/test e/var) very soon and I'm thinking about running another

will be second well researched cycle
first cycle 195# 20% to 205# 15% after PCT
would like to end up 215# and 10-12% after PCT

thinking about:
1-4 dbol 25mg ed
1-16 test e 500mg ew
1-14 eq 600 mg ew
15-18 winny 50mg ed
1-18 Adex 0.25mg ed
1-18 finasteride 1.25mg ed
1-18 hCG 500 i.u. ew
pct
19-22 nolva 20/20/20/10
clomid 50/50/50/25

thoughts?

thanks

Do you have personal experience with Finasteride?

My first cycle I used propecia at 1mg ED and had side effects so quit using it.

On-cycle, I now use .5mg propecia ED and am side effect free

 

[calabresenj]

Im a big fan of eq Im no pro but I think wit 500mg of test and being that you have never run eq b4 400mg/wk should be plenty but again Im no pro

 

[rednvegas]

I have had great result with Test cyp 600mg stacked with trenb ena 300mg a wk went from 205 to 230 in 4wks dropped 5bls in PCT on 2nd cycle of the same for 12wks and i am at 250 now at 6wks and getting some good advice to include hcg in 3wks till the end and thru pct.