Test E/Tren A for lean mass?

[Avirex64]

Looking to put on some LEAN size. I just wanted to see what you guys thought and maybe get some opinions(im open). Im 29, 5'11 just 200 lbs and not sure on body fat maybe 15%. Been working out for close to 6 years. Let me know what you think about this cycle. Threw in some adex for bloating, it helps from what Ive heard. I also heard .25mg of pramipex per day would help with acne so I threw that in too because my last cycle of tren i broke out major on my forehead/back. Anyone used pramipex? How did you like it? Thanks ahead for any suggestions or opinions.

Weeks 1-12: Test E @ 500mg/wk - Mon/Fri (250mg each day)
Weeks 1-10: Tren A @ 300mg/wk - Mon/Wed/Fri (100mg each day)
Weeks 1-10: Pramipex .25mg/dy at night to control acne and sweats?
Weeks 1-10: Arimidex .75mg/wk - Mon/Wed/Fri(.25mg each day)

Weeks 11-13: nolva (40,40,20,20)
Weeks 11-12: clomid(100,50,50)

Like I said looking to cut fat and gain LEAN SIZE. Let me know what you think. Also thinking about throwing in some winny orals. Should I start this at beginning or like at week 5 or 6?

 

[sweed]

tren ace should be injected ed (everyday). it's a fast acting ester which releases the hormone faster than a slowing releasing ester like enanthate.
was tren your first cycle? tren only? tren is for more experienced users because of its side effects. maybe test and masteron might benefit you better.

 

[needtogetaas]

your pct.

to high on the clomid and do not use nolva. Add in forged post cycle 2 caps ed (needtobuildmuscle.com)

 

[needtogetaas]

clomid 25mg ed for 4 weeks with the forged post cycle.

 

[2DIEZEL]

You could get away with injecting tren-a m/w/f EOD would be better and ED would be the best. The biggest reason why you broke out so bad on tren is because you werent injecting ED and that leads to more hormone fluctuations causing more sides such as acne. I also see your running it for 10 weeks, about 6 weeks your receptors will get saturated with the tren and will start loose its effect. I would drop the tren around the 6th weeks and replace it with winny.

 

[Avirex64]

You could get away with injecting tren-a m/w/f EOD would be better and ED would be the best. The biggest reason why you broke out so bad on tren is because you werent injecting ED and that leads to more hormone fluctuations causing more sides such as acne. I also see your running it for 10 weeks, about 6 weeks your receptors will get saturated with the tren and will start loose its effect. I would drop the tren around the 6th weeks and replace it with winny.

Yea Ive heard ED is best with tren, I just have to man up and stop worrying about poking myself everyday. If I did do everyday how much? Maybe 50mg per day for 8weeks(since 2 vials is 20ml)? Also about 1 or 2 weeks after I was done with my tren cycle I broke out even more on my forehead and back, would injecting everyday prevent that from happening once Im done with the tren or maybe minimize it? Also the adex would be enough to help bloating right? Would you suggest injectable winny or oral? Thanks for all the help bro's and sorry about all the questions

 

[Avirex64]

clomid 25mg ed for 4 weeks with the forged post cycle.

Im gonna have to get a bottle before I start my gear... I was actually checking out the site, I seen it on thesourcecheck.com

Thanks for all the help bros

 

[2DIEZEL]

Yea Ive heard ED is best with tren, I just have to man up and stop worrying about poking myself everyday. Also about 1 or 2 weeks after I was done with my tren cycle I broke out even more on my forehead and back, would injecting everyday prevent that from happening once Im done with the tren or maybe minimize it? Would you suggest injectable winny or oral? Thanks for all the help bro.

Yull most likely still get the acne because you are coming off and blood levels are still fluctuating, happens to me all the time no matter what i run. And with pinning ED i dont like it either, thats why i prefer tren-e over tren-a less pinning and less acne sides. If i do run tren-a i make a trensderamal cream out of it and apply it ED...shits killer.

 

[2DIEZEL]

Yea Ive heard ED is best with tren, I just have to man up and stop worrying about poking myself everyday. Also about 1 or 2 weeks after I was done with my tren cycle I broke out even more on my forehead and back, would injecting everyday prevent that from happening once Im done with the tren or maybe minimize it? Would you suggest injectable winny or oral? Thanks for all the help bro.

Yull most likely still get the acne because you are coming off and blood levels are still fluctuating, happens to me all the time no matter what i run. And with pinning ED i dont like it either, thats why i prefer tren-e over tren-a less pinning and less acne sides. If i do run tren-a i make a trensderamal cream out of it and apply it ED...shits killer.

Oral winny would be my choice.

 

[needtogetaas]

You could get away with injecting tren-a m/w/f EOD would be better and ED would be the best. The biggest reason why you broke out so bad on tren is because you werent injecting ED and that leads to more hormone fluctuations causing more sides such as acne. I also see your running it for 10 weeks, about 6 weeks your receptors will get saturated with the tren and will start loose its effect. I would drop the tren around the 6th weeks and replace it with winny.

Adding in mast from the start can help with this. Or winny around mid cycle till the end.

 

[Avirex64]

Yull most likely still get the acne because you are coming off and blood levels are still fluctuating, happens to me all the time no matter what i run. And with pinning ED i dont like it either, thats why i prefer tren-e over tren-a less pinning and less acne sides. If i do run tren-a i make a trensderamal cream out of it and apply it ED...shits killer.

Oral winny would be my choice.

Thanks for the help bro! So Ive switched it up a little bit, how does this look? I put tren weeks 1-8 just becaise it will finish off the bottle, but if its a major difference I can just do the 6 weeks. Also what would be a good dose of winny per day and would I start when Im done with the tren or mid cycle?

Weeks 1-12: Test E @ 500mg/wk - Mon/Fri (250mg each day)
Weeks 1- 8: Tren A @ 350mg/wk - (50mg each day)
Weeks 6-12: Winny@ ??mg/per day
Weeks 1-12: Pramipex .25mg/D at night to control acne and sweats?
Weeks 1-12: Arimidex .75mg/wk - Mon/Wed/Fri(.25mg each day)

Weeks 13-16: clomid(25mg every day)
Weeks 13-16: forged post cycle(2 caps ed)

 

[Avirex64]

also do the adex and pramipex doses look good? I want to try and minimize acne and especially water weight/bloating as much as possible

 

[2DIEZEL]

The cycle looks pretty decent just they way you have it now. Except you should pin your test-e mon/thur so they could be equally spaced apart., running 50mgs of winny ED is most common. I take accutane for my acne and helps big time. As for the adex i have never had a problem with bloating while on tren or winny, The tren makes me sweat so much its crazy so i know im not bloated and winny gives me the dry look. But remeber diet/cardio is the key to getting ripped.

 

[Avirex64]

The cycle looks pretty decent just they way you have it now. Except you should pin your test-e mon/thur so they could be equally spaced apart., running 50mgs of winny ED is most common. I take accutane for my acne and helps big time. As for the adex i have never had a problem with bloating while on tren or winny, The tren makes me sweat so much its crazy so i know im not bloated and winny gives me the dry look. But remeber diet/cardio is the key to getting ripped.

Yea thats true, winny is suppose to dry you out so that should be enough right? so im thinking take out the adex and the pramipex since im gonna throw in the winny, i just remember last time i took test e it made me pretty puffy and i held alot of water which i dont wanna do this cycle. thanks again for the help bro

 

[25homes]

Cycle looks good winny at 50 mg ed be good. I would go oral considering winny being 17aa and inj can be extremly painful. Oral is normally cheaper as well. You could buy inj win if you really want and take it oral aswell as inj. Adex should be fine at that dose for what you are wanting. I would hold off on it just have on hand so if you start to hold to much water through it in. With that cycle water ret shouldn't be bad at all bro

 

[Avirex64]

thanks for the info bro. I will just keep the adex on hand then. thanks again