test E, tbol, var 2nd cycle

[veneto82]

what do you guys think of this cycle has anyone ever done it. I did primo and test prop for my 1st cycle, loved the primo but friggin hard to get 50ml of the stuff and expensive 2! Looking for clean, vascular gains. Put on about 18lb from 1st cycle and lost % body fat.

Test E (250mg/w) 1 - 12
Tbol (40mg daily) 1-4
Var (50mg daily) 7-12

PCT 12-16

 

[trip h]

whats your pct look like?

 

[veneto82]

dont know yet, thinking
hcgenerate
post cycle
unleashed
sustain alpha

do i need all that? any suggestions anyone

 

[Dogfox]

yeah drop the var or tbol - i say var
and go with 50 mgs tbol for 4-5 weeks at start and bump test to 350

PCT: nolva 20/20/10/10 with unleashed or sustain

 

[Boxingheels]

If u decide to keep the var run it from wk8 to wk13.

 

[trip h]

^ what they said +1

 

[veneto82]

you dont think 250mg test is enough as a base? as mentioned im after vascular gains, lean muscle. Not the water retention and bloat that you may get from higher doses and less sides etc.

 

[Boxingheels]

Take some adex and you can keep the bloat down. I would up the test a bit, you should be fine.

 

[veneto82]

has anyone done this type of cycle before with what results?

 

[Dogfox]

350s a nice dose if you ask me. Adex will help with bloat. But 350s fine. Its not considered a high dose..

 

[EZ_E]

dont know yet, thinking
hcgenerate
post cycle
unleashed
sustain alpha
do i need all that? any suggestions anyone

Great PCT^^^

Run the HCGenerate the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle...

That's a lot of orals, make sure you have a liver support...

Lemme make a point here, the way you tran and diet will determine if you bulk up or put on lean mass, etc.....the juice is moot...

~EZ

 

[veneto82]

Great PCT^^^

Run the HCGenerate the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle...

That's a lot of orals, make sure you have a liver support...

Lemme make a point here, the way you tran and diet will determine if you bulk up or put on lean mass, etc.....the juice is moot...

~EZ

yea i will talk milk thistle tabs and liver guard.
just wondering what is the difference in takeing hcgenerate durin the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle, compared to taking it two weeks after last inject, and if taken the last 4-5 weeks of cycle do you take it after last inject as well?
Also do you think 10 weeks of test E @ 375mg p/w is enough or should it be ran at least 12 weeks?

 

[Dogfox]

yea i will talk milk thistle tabs and liver guard.
just wondering what is the difference in takeing hcgenerate durin the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle, compared to taking it two weeks after last inject, and if taken the last 4-5 weeks of cycle do you take it after last inject as well?
Also do you think 10 weeks of test E @ 375mg p/w is enough or should it be ran at least 12 weeks?

Ill let someone else chime in on HCgenerate.
as for the test, glas to see the dose increase. 10 weeks is plenty good enough, no need for 12.
inject it 2x per week and that will help with sides ie. bloat and get some adex from one of our sponsors for any bloat or estrogenic sides you may or may not encounter

 

[EZ_E]

yea i will talk milk thistle tabs and liver guard.
just wondering what is the difference in takeing hcgenerate durin the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle, compared to taking it two weeks after last inject, and if taken the last 4-5 weeks of cycle do you take it after last inject as well?
Also do you think 10 weeks of test E @ 375mg p/w is enough or should it be ran at least 12 weeks?

10 weeks @ that dose should yield you some nice results based on your goals (with the proper diet and trainin of course!)

As far as the HCGenerate, I got that right from the horse's (Needto's) mouth....and it worked well for me when I used it that way. I then ran the 3 products you have for PCT...

Always take a liver support with any oral, looks like you have that taken care of...

Good luck with this, keep us posted on results...

~EZ

 

[tom5933]

I'm thinking of running something very similar for my second cycle.

Weeks 0-13 Test-E 525mg/week
Weeks 0-6 T-Bol 50mg/day
Weeks 9-15 Anavar 50mg/day

 

[eClenbuterol]

Great PCT^^^

Run the HCGenerate the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle...

That's a lot of orals, make sure you have a liver support...

Lemme make a point here, the way you tran and diet will determine if you bulk up or put on lean mass, etc.....the juice is moot...

~EZ

AGREE! Diet detirmines it all!

 

[LiftHeavy078]

var is a nice steroid and gives very mild results, but does promote strength, though it does cause more water retention then is mentioned, IMO it does give some water retention

tbol is way fukin over rated and real dissapointing steroid if your trying to gain muscle weight, ur better off buying dianbols and using some adex to get rid of the bloat from dbol, ull get much better gains and results from them

I'm on Anavar right now and I have never looked dryer. I never heard anyone even getting mild water bloat from Var.

That statement about Tbol is crazy. Tbol is perhaps the best steroid I have ever tried. In 4 weeks I put on 12 pounds and dropped 3.5% bodyfat. Used it for 4 weeks to kickstart my cycle. No water bloat, and felt good and clean while on it. I will never go back to Dbol again.

 

[showcaseshowdown]

Pump up the test to 400 minimum. Don't use an oral for that many weeks. Maybe use both orals together for six weeks towards the end.

 

[veneto82]

going ot start very soon prob in 2 weeks, bumping the test enanthate up to 1 1/2 ml per week so 375mg. Going to stick with Tbols and Var, dont want massive size just Ripped mofo!

Question on liquid adex i have... how much to take if getting bloat?

 

[BodyByTren]

Great PCT^^^

Run the HCGenerate the last 4-5 weeks of the cycle...

That's a lot of orals, make sure you have a liver support...

Lemme make a point here, the way you tran and diet will determine if you bulk up or put on lean mass, etc.....the juice is moot...

~EZ

As you could sat with any cycle,DIET always determines it

 

[BodyByTren]

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE, oi oi oi lol

anyways mate

havent used cycle

i used 250 test to cruise though lol, so 350 IMO is nice dose but results are little disspointing, and mild

var is a nice steroid and gives very mild results, but does promote strength, though it does cause more water retention then is mentioned, IMO it does give some water retention

tbol is way fukin over rated and real dissapointing steroid if your trying to gain muscle weight, ur better off buying dianbols and using some adex to get rid of the bloat from dbol, ull get much better gains and results from them

Bro you really give out some bad info, are you just saying things to people just for the hell of it???? Have you actually ran var or tbol????

Var does NOT casue water retention and Tbol is GREAT and is basically DBOL WITH OUT THE BLAOT!!!

 

[BodyByTren]

10 weeks @ that dose should yield you some nice results based on your goals (with the proper diet and trainin of course!)

As far as the HCGenerate, I got that right from the horse's (Needto's) mouth....and it worked well for me when I used it that way. I then ran the 3 products you have for PCT...

Always take a liver support with any oral, looks like you have that taken care of...

Good luck with this, keep us posted on results...

~EZ

I really would like to here the reasoning behind this,im not doubting it,just curious as to why and if theres facts backing this way.

Do you have any or know why,or you just did it as thats what he told you to do.....