Test E/Prop cycle

[DiamondDude]

Hey guys. So I am planning on doing my first cycle and I just wanted to get your opinion on what I am thinking. Before I do, I'll give some background on myself. I am 27. Been working out for about 5 years now 3 days a week. I am 5'11, 192 lbs with a bf% of 9 (according to calipers).

My goal is to put on some considerable size which I feel I will since its my first go at AAS. So this is what I am thinking
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg/week (pinning on Monday and Thursdays)
Weeks 13-16 Test Prop 125mg/EOD
Weeks 13-16 Winny 50mg/ED

I know that it is suggested that you only take one compound on your first cycle, but since I am combining two cycles into one basically if I have an issue in the first 4 weeks I will be able to single out which compound is giving me the issue and the same with the last 4 weeks. I like this idea so instead of waiting 2 weeks to start PCT I only wait 3 days before I start and so really my total cycle time is extended by 2 weeks.

So what do you think? Am I crazy to do this? Any suggestions and comments (good or bad) welcomed.

 

[weizy]

I would say that's a long time to be on for your first cycle. Personally I would say you should cut out the test p / winny and just run the test e and d-bol kick start. I can almost guarantee you'll get what you expect if not greater results than you are hoping for. If you really insist on using the other last 2 compounds I would change your cycle to something like this.

Weeks 1-4 dbol 30mg/day
Weeks 1-10 test e 500mg/week (pinning on Monday and Thursdays)
Weeks 9-12 test prop 125mg/EOD
Weeks 10-12 winny 50mg/ED

I don't think you should be taking nothing for a week, even though the test e would still be in your system the main goal is to keep the fluctuation at a constant. In any case what are you planning to use as PCT? Do you have ancillaries for symptoms on cycle?

I don't mean to preach to you but believe me you don't need 4 compounds in your first cycle. I definitely support the kick start with D-bol but the extra 4 weeks at the end will make your recovery more strenuous. If you have any other questions after reading this toss a reply and I'll see what I can do to answer ya.

 

[gymjunkie09]

I would say that's a long time to be on for your first cycle. Personally I would say you should cut out the test p / winny and just run the test e and d-bol kick start. I can almost guarantee you'll get what you expect if not greater results than you are hoping for. If you really insist on using the other last 2 compounds I would change your cycle to something like this.

Weeks 1-4 dbol 30mg/day
Weeks 1-10 test e 500mg/week (pinning on Monday and Thursdays)
Weeks 9-12 test prop 125mg/EOD
Weeks 10-12 winny 50mg/ED

I don't think you should be taking nothing for a week, even though the test e would still be in your system the main goal is to keep the fluctuation at a constant. In any case what are you planning to use as PCT? Do you have ancillaries for symptoms on cycle?

I don't mean to preach to you but believe me you don't need 4 compounds in your first cycle. I definitely support the kick start with D-bol but the extra 4 weeks at the end will make your recovery more strenuous. If you have any other questions after reading this toss a reply and I'll see what I can do to answer ya.

this ^^^^...no need for all that on your first cycle
run hcgenerate weeks 5-14 and post cycle/unleashed with a small dose of clomid 25mg ed for pct

 

[DiamondDude]

Thanks for the feedback. I am just going to run the Test E for 12 weeks and use the dbol as a kick start. I'll save the prop and winny for another time. As for PCT. I am going to be running unleashed throughout the entire cycle, and basically following the PCT gymjunkie laid out for 6 weeks.

 

[kc17]

dbol and test is good enought for your 1st cycle..

 

[weizy]

Sounds good man. Best of luck. Jump back on the board or toss me a pm if you have any trouble.

If you have a shaky hand like I did when I first started pinning here's a thread of mine that might help:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/9-steps-great-first-pin-796763.html