test e or cyp?

[Bruce]

which ester has given you better gains, i know they are very similar. thanks for sharing experiences k to all that answer.
it will be used with deca and kicked off with some prop. thanks

 

[Bruce]

bumpity gotta make a decision vets

 

[Indy]

which ester has given you better gains, i know they are very similar. thanks for sharing experiences k to all that answer.
it will be used with deca and kicked off with some prop. thanks

Doesn't matter bruce, one is american, one is european, almost exactly the same ether. I am using cyp right now myself.

 

[trinidad]

My body seems to react better with cyp

 

[wellbilt]

i have only used test e so i cannot compare
i will be using cyp for my winter bulker
i found that test e was alittle painful maybe it was because it was qv
for those who have used cyp and enan how does the injections compare

 

[TheRide]

Test is test is test... unless it's sust

 

[bnutty187]

Test E IMO.

 

[Bruce]

when using prop to front load what do i do if i am running 250 a week with 600 deca. do i do my shot of 250 test e or cyp, then do eod 100mg injects of prop as well. thanks

 

[trinidad]

I've had more pain with enan than I have with cyp.

 

[Little Boy]

BRUCE...how many cycles do you do a year? Sounds like you're getting huge bro.

I really don't think there's a difference from everything I've heard...cypionate obviously has a slightly longer half life, so I'd imagine the blood levels are a bit more stable, less side effect, more consistent blood levels by a tad.

 

[Indy]

when using prop to front load what do i do if i am running 250 a week with 600 deca. do i do my shot of 250 test e or cyp, then do eod 100mg injects of prop as well. thanks

Starting to sound complicated, you could run a couple of weeks of prop to front load, or take an oral as you know, same gain. However running only 250 a week on test with 600 deca is looking for problems. I am currently running 600 deca, and 800 test. You always want to keep the test higher than deca to avoid sides.

 

[Bruce]

BRUCE...how many cycles do you do a year? Sounds like you're getting huge bro.

I really don't think there's a difference from everything I've heard...cypionate obviously has a slightly longer half life, so I'd imagine the blood levels are a bit more stable, less side effect, more consistent blood levels by a tad.

i did one deca winny took 16 weeks off, then did tbol 27 days and took a month off. so only two man.

 

[Bruce]

Starting to sound complicated, you could run a couple of weeks of prop to front load, or take an oral as you know, same gain. However running only 250 a week on test with 600 deca is looking for problems. I am currently running 600 deca, and 800 test. You always want to keep the test higher than deca to avoid sides.

indy so you don't start the prop with the test e u just front load the first few with prop?

 

[fergie]

they are both very similay brucey, you wouldn't notice a diff

 

[Indy]

indy so you don't start the prop with the test e u just front load the first few with prop?

First few weeks, 2-3 running prop along with the others, or run an oral of choice for 3-4 weeks, which is my pref, less stickin, but I have been know to run prop a short time when I have single ester tests on hand. That's why I usually try to keep sust on hand, dont have to worry about that.

 

[Bruce]

ok ferg help a bro out how do i start with the prop.
and bigboy i am far from huge, just shredded man

 

[Bruce]

bisump on front load

 

[fergie]

ok ferg help a bro out how do i start with the prop.
and bigboy i am far from huge, just shredded man

just use t-bol for the first 3-4 weeks till your e or c kiks in

 

[DannoMight]

do shots every 3 days. prop does have a half life of 3 days. you could do your prop,test-e, and deca. then a prop only on your next shot and keep rotating for as long as you feel like frontloading. thats what i'd do IMO.

 

[Bruce]

thanks bros

 

[jc1908]

bruce,
i am doing
400/deca
400/test e..both per week on sun and wed
i'm using e, because my cyp was "delayed" but will be here in a few days then i will switch to cyp.
front loading with prop, 100mgs EOD for the first 3 weeks
cyp has always been my choice, enth has caused a great deal more pain than i've had in the past..i understand that the prop is probably adding to this. but i've paid attention to the inject sites and the sites that are taking the e, are swelling and stay painful longer. keep in mind i've done this enough to recognise breaking a vein, nerve..etc..JMO..can't wait for the cyp to get here..
good luck my bro

 

[Little Boy]

i did one deca winny took 16 weeks off, then did tbol 27 days and took a month off. so only two man.

My misunderstanding bro. I just see you whoring up this place, which is good, I've learned a lot from ya.

 

[Bruce]

no i just love it here, i take a while before i truly decide on my cycles

 

[BigAndy69]

They are just about the same. So close in fact, you can't feel the difference.

The difference is in the quality of the brands used (solvents, accurate dosing...)

There's a number of reasons why someone would think one is superior to the other, but in the real world, there is no noticeable difference.

 

[kraze]

yep, and one could think one is more painful then the other depending on which they took first, among other variables.

 

[Bruce]

i just wondered how people that used both compare the gains

 

[BigAndy69]

i just wondered how people that used both compare the gains

There is no difference in gains when it comes to enanthate vs cyp. The difference in gains comes from brand XYZ vs brand ABC.

 

[BigAndy69]

yep, and one could think one is more painful then the other depending on which they took first, among other variables.

The major difference between the two is melting points. Enanthate has a melting point of 30 Celsius so it cannot crystallize at the injection site, that's why it is less painful. Cyp can crystallize at the injection site, especially if there isn't enough benzyl benzoate in the product

 

[Bruce]

if you were choosing between the two bigandy which would u choose, i think i am gonna choose cyp

 

[BigAndy69]

if you were choosing between the two bigandy which would u choose, i think i am gonna choose cyp

I would make my decision based on the brand. If it's the same brand, I would use Enanthate.

 

[Bruce]

its homebrewed by a chem genius, his prop is painless, and his tbol is the bomb

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Starting to sound complicated, you could run a couple of weeks of prop to front load, or take an oral as you know, same gain. However running only 250 a week on test with 600 deca is looking for problems. I am currently running 600 deca, and 800 test. You always want to keep the test higher than deca to avoid sides.

410 hit up my current dosages with 750 Test and 600 deca...boom i'm at 260 up 10lbs

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

might as well try the cyp you know you'll get Test E eventually too

 

[Bruce]

yea i am thinking thats a lot of gear for my third cycle 750 and 600, i'm getting the cyp, but maybe 500 test 600 deca

 

[Little Boy]

So Bruce your first cycle was deca/winny, no test?

 

[Bruce]

yes

 

[ElMatador]

test e. for me...

 

[DannoMight]

500 test and 600 deca will be fine. especially since you haven't used that dosage yet. especially if you decide to frontload with prop or something else.

 

[Bruce]

u must spread more k before giving to dannomight