Test dosage while cutting

[Shinobi]

Almost every BB say that you must add test to a cutting cycle and follow a restrict diet and I agree but which dosage should I use? 750mg, 1gr?!? I was thinking about sustenon but I´ve changed my mind cause sustenon dont keep the blood level up cause the 4 esters have different half-life so the blood level fluctuate. The secret to making sus work correctly, is timing the esters so the blood levels do not fluctuate but I chose enanthate instead.(I have no access to propianate)

 

[Citruscide]

Hmm... everytime I use test on some sort of "cutting" phase... meaning, I'm just dieting more strict... I use prop. It tends to hold alot less water on me than say, cyp or enth... as well as sust or omna.

The biggest concern for me would be water retention. Even when I take nolva... I still get some water retention... I know you can't get prop (don't know why) but with nolva, I notice only a little water retention... and almost NONE if i cut sodium out of my diet.

With Enth, it seems like I will always be carrying 5-8lbs of water no matter what I do. If I don't take any anti-e's, I'll hold around 12lbs of water!!!!

Like I said, it could be a personal issue with me, but water retention is not something I want... while I'm cutting.

For dosage... test... I wouldn't think you'd need more than 400mg or so a week... of cyp... of prop... you might need 100mg eod... I wouldn't think on a cutting cycle, it would be necessiary to use 750-1g... that's a tad bit much IMO. use around 300-400mg, and add in some EQ at 400-600mg... if you want to have that much in your system.

C-ditty

 

[Juice Authority]

I would have to Prop @ 50mg's ed or 100mg's eod for the reasons C-ditty stated above.

 

[satchboogie]

sustanon would actually be perfect for a cutting routine if you understand its time releasing mechanism.

personally, i would frontload 1000mg on day one and 1000mg on day 8, then 500mg a week.

 

[Juice Authority]

sustanon would actually be perfect for a cutting routine if you understand its time releasing mechanism.

personally, i would frontload 1000mg on day one and 1000mg on day 8, then 500mg a week.

I was a big Sust fan until I learned better. Case in point, the article below...

Sustanon: The "king" of testosterone blends.
The four different testosterone esters in this product certainly look appealing to the consumer, there is no denying that. But for the athlete I think it is all just a matter of marketing (Hell, why buy one ester when you can get four?). In clinical situations I can see some strong uses for it. If you were undergoing testosterone replacement therapy for example, you would probably find Sustanon a much more comfortable option than testosterone enanthate. You would need to visit the doctor less frequently for an injection, and blood levels should be more steadily maintained between treatments. But for the bodybuilder who is injecting 4 ampules of Sustanon per week, there is no advantage over other testosterone products. In fact, the high price tag for Sustanon usually makes it a very poor buy in the face of cheaper testosterone enanthate/cypionate. Bodybuilders should probably stop looking at the four ester issue, and stick with totals (Sustanon is just a 250mg testosterone ampule). Were enanthate to be available for say $10 per amp of 250mg, and Sustanon priced nearly double that, buying the Sustanon would be like throwing money away. If you could get nearly double the milligram amount for the same price with enanthate, this is the better product to go with hands down. Leave the high priced stuff for the guys who don't know any better.

 

[satchboogie]

i replied to that article that you posted. still must disagree as i'm a fan of susta.

i respect your view though. to each his own bro.

 

[Seth28]

I think that 750 to a gram is a hell of alot of test and you are gonna puff up with H2O, I think a lower dose with some fina or winny would be better.

This is what I believe. Test production goes down when you are on a restricted calorie diet. thus maintainance levels are all thats needed (200-400mg/week). I say this because test increases protein synthesis, now if your on a restricted cal cutting diet, im not sure how much that increase in synthesis is gonna help you, you can only lay down as much protein as your takin in.

 

[Shinobi]

sustanon would actually be perfect for a cutting routine if you understand its time releasing mechanism.

personally, i would frontload 1000mg on day one and 1000mg on day 8, then 500mg a week.

Could u explain how to use sustenon wisely? As far as I know someone should inject sus ED or EOD because the test prop will be out of your system in +- 48hrs thus even if I use 500mg of sus a week the ester of test prop wont be high.

 

[Juice Authority]

Could u explain how to use sustenon wisely? As far as I know someone should inject sus ED or EOD because the test prop will be out of your system in +- 48hrs thus even if I use 500mg of sus a week the ester of test prop wont be high.

Please refer to this thread.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225795

We're discussing this very topic.

 

[Surgical]

I just use 300 a week of suspension or prop.