Test-deca cycle advice needed

[spacedog]

Hey guys,

There are a lot of conflicting things going around the net about deca/test cycles so I'm launching this thread in the hopes of getting some solid advice Research is the key...

Stats: 1m75, 78 kg
Previous cycles: test-e cycle 500 mg/week. Now three months post-PCT and kept most of my gains.

I'm basically starting my second cycle and wanted to include a dryer compound. I chose deca.

So far I got:

W1-9: deca at 200 mg and test at 500 mg
W10-11: test at 500 mg
PCT: nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50

(I wanted to make it a 12 week cycle, but I'm off to Thailand during week 12 and I don't want to get caught smuggling steroids!

My questions are:

A) I have prami and adex on hand...would you guys use them on cycle or is the risk of getting gyno on this cycle minimal? What dosages do you recommend?
B) supposing gyno flares up on this cycle and I didn't use prami or adex on cycle, how do I proceed?
C) what kinda gains can be expected on this second cycle?


Thanks!

 

[bigbassturd]

Hey guys,

There are a lot of conflicting things going around the net about deca/test cycles so I'm launching this thread in the hopes of getting some solid advice Research is the key...

Stats: 1m75, 78 kg
Previous cycles: test-e cycle 500 mg/week. Now three months post-PCT and kept most of my gains.

I'm basically starting my second cycle and wanted to include a dryer compound. I chose deca.

So far I got:

W1-9: deca at 200 mg and test at 500 mg
W10-11: test at 500 mg
PCT: nolva 40/40/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50

(I wanted to make it a 12 week cycle, but I'm off to Thailand during week 12 and I don't want to get caught smuggling steroids!

My questions are:

A) I have prami and adex on hand...would you guys use them on cycle or is the risk of getting gyno on this cycle minimal? What dosages do you recommend?
B) supposing gyno flares up on this cycle and I didn't use prami or adex on cycle, how do I proceed?
C) what kinda gains can be expected on this second cycle?


Thanks!

So much off here bro.

Deca is as far from dry as it gets.

Also, you NEVER run nolva with a 19nor compound such as deca.

What is your age?

200mg of deca is a waste. Don't care for deca in the first place, but if it is ran, you must do it right cause it will FUCK you up bro

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[Kbordner]

Up the Deca to 400 wk. keep the test at 500. D-Bol kick would be the icing on the cake. 50mg/Ed wk 1-4.


55 and still fucking dangerous

 

[MattJS]

You need to do a fair bit more research here mate, you would need to run caber with deca and test deca is THE wet cycle, add some dbol and you'll be walking around with a garden pond under your skin... I should warn you I know guys who've used deca incorrectly years ago and can't get a hard on to this day without pharmaceutical aid.... Be sure before you fuck with it... Your pct is awful and I guarantee if you run that cycle with the PCT you listed you'll be in for a very hard year..... As for your q's

A) Use Adex and Caber on this cycle if you must run it, your risk of gyno is MAXIMAL as you've got estrogen and progestin to worry about
B) Proceed by paying someone to beat the shit out of you for being dumb enough to run this cycle with no adex or caber and then you can go shopping for a new bra and a lifetime supply of viagra
C) If your diet and training are excellent, you could gain a lot of muscle along with some fat and water, however I have to assume that you put similar effort into researching nutrition and training as you did this cycle so I would strongly suggest a visit to the diet and training forums to have your routine critiqued to maximise your gains

Overall I feel this cycle is too complicated for a beginner, you would have a much better time on a simple test/dbol cycle IMO, excellent gains and the risks are MUCH lower

 

[Kbordner]

I am so tired of people calling out Deca dick. That's why you run it with Test. The only time I haver ever seen Deca dick is when some idiot runs it without test.


55 and still fucking dangerous

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Test does not make up for lost libdo. Running the proper ancillaries is what keeps libido in check

 

[MattJS]

I've seen it run with test and still cause problems, I agree with therippedreverend proper supports are a must with deca or you're running a risk

 

[rustilldown]

I am so tired of people calling out Deca dick. That's why you run it with Test. The only time I haver ever seen Deca dick is when some idiot runs it without test.


55 and still fucking dangerous

Just cause it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

[C0LUMB0]

caber 0.5mg twice a week will help prevent limp noodle.

 

[Kbordner]

I am sure it happens but I hate to see all the scare tactics regarding gear. This is why nobody believes half what their told. You would think Tren will kill you when you run it from the horrible sides but it varies from person to person. Not everyone gets Deca dick either. I agree on supports but if you don't know this stuff you shouldn't be fucking with gear anyway. More than half of every young kid I have talked to in my gym (18-25) do absolutely everything wrong and don't give a shit either. That's how you think when your young. I am indestructible. Knowledge is power.


55 and still fucking dangerous