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Test Cyp cycle

Hey guys, I was a past member of this board last year but kinda fell off the scene for a while, and have recently been doing some extensive research across several boards for my next cycle. I have some concerns and would appreciate any help. Height: 6'1 Weight: 200 lbs BF: 12%

I've done two cycles in the past:
1) 250 mg/week of deca for 10 weeks - NO PCT (two years ago)
2) 25 mg/day d-bol 6 weeks & 450mg/week of deca for 14 weeks, while also using AIFM eod - PCT consisted of clomid cycle for three weeks (one year ago)

*Im not sure if the AIFM helped the bloat in my body because my face puffed up like a water balloon, but it could have been a combination of things including my diet, the creatine, water intake, etc.

From my last cycle I kept considerable gains, went from 190 to 225 lbs, and averaged 218 lbs but had some considerable bloat in my face. Six months after the cycle ended I changed my diet and training program. Instead of bulking I decided to cut fat and started training in thai kickboxing. I have been doing that ever since and now I weigh 200 lbs with a 12% body fat. Once again, I am interested in gaining some good lean muscle and I want to make sure I do this the right way. I will continue the kickboxing training and incorporate heavy lifting at the same time.

For this coming cycle I plan the following:

test cyp 600mg/week - monday and friday (300mg - 300mg) for 14 weeks

My concerns mainly have to do with antiestrogens and PCT. I have Nolva and Clomid for PCT, but after doing research there seems to be much controversy about using these products. My first question is, 1) What should I use, (Nolva, Aromasin, Arimidex, etc.) during the cycle to prevent water retention and gyno? 2) Should I use Nolva and Clomid during my PCT, and if yes, how should I use them? 3) Are Unleashed, Post Cycle, Derma Sustain better alternatives? (I read the sticky about these products, and I am curious to see if they are successful)

I know this is a long post, but I am just trying to be as clear as possible. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
G
 
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would I use adex or aromasin (.25mg or 6.25mg respectively) from day 1 throughout the cycle ed? do I continue to use it throughout my PCT? and what do you guys think about the combination of nolva and clomid for my PCT?

G
 
Cycle:

Test C 600mg weeks 1-14
Arimidex .25mg EOD weeks 1-14
HCG 250iu 2x EW weeks 3-14

PCT:

Clomid 50mg ED weeks 16-19
Nolva 40mg ED weeks 16-17
Nolva 20mg ED weeks 18-19

or

Sustain Alpha 5 pumps ED weeks 16-19
EndoAmp weeks 16-19
POST CYCLE weeks 16-19
UNLEASHED weeks 16-19
 
hehateme000 said:
Cycle:

Test C 600mg weeks 1-14
Arimidex .25mg EOD weeks 1-14
HCG 250iu 2x EW weeks 3-14

PCT:

Clomid 50mg ED weeks 16-19
Nolva 40mg ED weeks 16-17
Nolva 20mg ED weeks 18-19

or

Sustain Alpha 5 pumps ED weeks 16-19
EndoAmp weeks 16-19
POST CYCLE weeks 16-19
UNLEASHED weeks 16-19

If you continue with the HCG and dex, you should only need the supps.

If you're positive clomid works for you, you should add some of the supps anyway to help things along. If you're not sure, pass. The sides can be horrible.
 
hehateme000 said:
Cycle:

Test C 600mg weeks 1-14
Arimidex .25mg EOD weeks 1-14
HCG 250iu 2x EW weeks 3-14

PCT:

Clomid 50mg ED weeks 16-19
Nolva 40mg ED weeks 16-17
Nolva 20mg ED weeks 18-19

or

Sustain Alpha 5 pumps ED weeks 16-19
EndoAmp weeks 16-19
POST CYCLE weeks 16-19
UNLEASHED weeks 16-19

This PCT looks real good bro!!!! I will use this real soon.Thanks!!
 
You may also want to look into DEFINITION from www.proteinfactory.com

It has nothing to do with PCT but it will control bloat. It looks as if the effects of AIFM are strictly that of a diuretic. DEFINITION is a diuretic but it's all natural and very effective. (A double dose twice a day will have you pissing out pounds! :) )
 
Thanks for the help guys. I really appreciate the guidance. I don't think I can get a hold of HCG so I'm gonna stick to the adex during the cycle, and use the combination of Nolva and Clomid for my PCT. I might throw-in some Sustain Alpha, and Endoamp in the combo to help boost testosterone but need to do a little more research before executing this plan. I plan to start the cycle probably in July so I'll keep you guys posted on the products I use, and probably will be posting pics/feedback while on. Thanks.

G
 
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