Test CYP...200mg EW or E5D?

[AleaveR]

Just did my first shot of test cyp 200mg yesterday and was planning on doing 200mg EW for 12 weeks. I have 2- 10ml vials so I will have a lot left over and thought about doing 200mg e5d...Averaged over 12 weeks, this equals about 284mg/week.

Will this yield better results and keep test levels more?

Also, how long does cyp usually take to kick in...its good stuff, from a us pharmacy!

 

[NapoleanComplex]

I'd run it 200mg every 4 days. That's pretty close to 400mg/week. My first cycle was 500mg/sust/wk and I loved the results.

 

[DaddyX]

aahh, 400mg ew for 10 weeks. i personally would never do anything under 500mg. 200mg a week is probably not even worth it

 

[AleaveR]

Well it is my first cycle and blood work shows that I have been working out with naturally LOW test levels so I dont wanna go above 300mg per week. I think that considering my situation, this should yield some decent results. So what would be best?


200mg E5d....avg 284mg/week

or

150mg E4d....avg 263mg/week

And...should I use any ancillaries throughout the cycle....I am dieting so I would like to reduce water retention...I will use HCG towards the end...

 

[DaddyX]

Well it is my first cycle and blood work shows that I have been working out with naturally LOW test levels so I dont wanna go above 300mg per week. I think that considering my situation, this should yield some decent results. So what would be best?


200mg E5d....avg 284mg/week

or

150mg E4d....avg 263mg/week

And...should I use any ancillaries throughout the cycle....I am dieting so I would like to reduce water retention...I will use HCG towards the end...

you need more than just hcg for post cycle

 

[Texas Ranger]

AleaveR, the guys are giving you some good advice. Up the Test to 400-500mgs for 10 weeks. Bro, if you're going to do it, do it right.

 

[AleaveR]

Man I know that over 500 will really give some dramatic results and I appreciate the advice but I really wanna stay in the 300mg range.

To be honest, I have seen friends get some incredible results from 200mg EW, resluts that I would definately be happy with. I just dont want to risk shutting myself too bad at the end.

BTW, what else would u guys use besides HCG at the end of the cycle...clomid?

 

[DaddyX]

Man I know that over 500 will really give some dramatic results and I appreciate the advice but I really wanna stay in the 300mg range.

To be honest, I have seen friends get some incredible results from 200mg EW, resluts that I would definately be happy with. I just dont want to risk shutting myself too bad at the end.

BTW, what else would u guys use besides HCG at the end of the cycle...clomid?

some like clomid some dont. i like it so i would reccomend it bro.

 

[AleaveR]

Gonna do some research on clomid....

So, what would give best blood levels.

150mg e4d or 200mg e5d?

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

Aleaver, just wanted to put my $.02 in on the 200mg e7d. Worked great for my first cycle, up 20 pounds after 8 weeks and great strength gains. If the minimum works, why use more? In the middle of the same thing now and am up to 232 from 218, week 5.

 

[AleaveR]

Damn Universe!!! That is amazing....maybe I should keep it at 200 then... I knew I had seen your thread somewhere earlier but couldnt find it yesterday. How long did it take for cyp to kick in???

 

[DaddyX]

Aleaver, just wanted to put my $.02 in on the 200mg e7d. Worked great for my first cycle, up 20 pounds after 8 weeks and great strength gains. If the minimum works, why use more? In the middle of the same thing now and am up to 232 from 218, week 5.

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you must gain very well off of test cause 200mg for me would do very little

 

[BigB_79]

Gonna do some research on clomid....

So, what would give best blood levels.

150mg e4d or 200mg e5d?

Roid Calculator

Good for comparing your blood levels for different dosage schedules. Make sure you check the box that says view active above the calculate button. This will give you the amount of active test in your system, which is what your interested in, based upon the ester in the test. I do agree that you should up the dosage to 400mg+ / week.

 

[AleaveR]

BigB...Thanks for that roid calculator link...Karma 4 U!

I think that this first week I am going to do 200 mg day 1 (already done) and 200 mg 4 days later to make sure test levels dont drop so low towards the endo of the week (is this kinda like "front loading." Apparently test levels are really low the first week because the test needs to build up.

After the first week, I am going to maintain at 200mg E5d.

How does this sound?

I am also going to deal with the Dr at allthingsmale.com to help me out with a good Ancillary plan if needed....

 

[allnaturalier]

hey aleaver, post your results and the post cycle

 

[ripper911]

400-500wk

 

[stone777]

Taking any amount of exogenous test that is above what your hypothalamus regards as normal will shut you down the same. As far as being shut down, if you normally produce 200mg/week naturally, and now your injecting 201 mg you will be shut down. So as many have advised, I would take 500mg/w for 8 or 400mg/w for 10. If your going to stick yourself, at least come away with some decent gains. Your side effects will be basically identical to what you had planned. Also do a little more research on your ancillaries (ex. what and when to run)
_Happy Lifting

 

[Stillgoing]

200mg every week vs. E5D?? Bro - doesn't matter. Your talking a 50mg difference per week. Either do 200mg or so, or, as suggested up it to the 400mg range. One or the other. Don't worry about the small stuff. Worry more about your training & nutrition....

Regarding post-c - You've posted a bunch of threads lately, so, I can't keep it all straight, but, aren' t you on HRT?? If so, no clomid necessary. Please refresh my memory....