Test cycle question. . .opinions please.

[digimon7068]

I have 40ml of test-e (250mg per ml) and 20ml of test prop (100mg per ml). I'm going to use the test-e at 750mg per week for approx 13 weeks.

Should I use the prop at say 300mg per week for approx 7 weeks at the beginning of the cycle (stacked on top of the test-e) or should I use it at 700mg per week for approx 3 weeks at the end of the cycle (beginning the day after my last inject of test-e)?

I finished my last cycle (long-acting test blend and deca) with 3 weeks of prop. . .kind of used it as a bridge to my PCT. . .I really liked the results and I recovered very nicely. I'm currently 10lbs heavier and a fair amount leaner than I was at this time last year.

Opinions??

 

[mikefear]

I'd just run the test prop at a higher dose earlier on.. no reason really to stack prop/enan.. either run prop the whole time, or use it as a kickstart.

 

[digimon7068]

I'd just run the test prop at a higher dose earlier on.. no reason really to stack prop/enan.. either run prop the whole time, or use it as a kickstart.

Well. . .prop has a half-life of like 3 days. . .it hits hard and goes away quick. Test-e stays active for up to 21 days. . .I won't even begin to see anything for a good 4 weeks. I could start up stacking the test-e and prop and begin to see results by the end of week one. Or, I could use the prop at the end as a bridge to PCT. As I said, the last time I used prop (at the end of a long-acting cycle) it really seemed to harden me up and my PCT was a breeze. . .really seemed to bounce back quick.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I actually have a related question about stacking enth and prop... if you're running enth throughout the cycle, and want to "kickstart" with prop, what's a good ratio to use and for how long do you run the prop? (I'm guessing at least 3 weeks, until the enth kicks in). So say you're aiming at 750mg test per week.... how would you break it down between the prop and enth for the first few weeks?

 

[Silent Method]

If you've got enough of it, why not do both? Kickstart with the prop for 3-4 weeks, then run it again at the end untill pct.

 

[digimon7068]

I actually have a related question about stacking enth and prop... if you're running enth throughout the cycle, and want to "kickstart" with prop, what's a good ratio to use and for how long do you run the prop? (I'm guessing at least 3 weeks, until the enth kicks in). So say you're aiming at 750mg test per week.... how would you break it down between the prop and enth for the first few weeks?

Actually. . .if I decide to kick start with it, I think I'm going to do test-e at 750 ew and prop at 300 ew. . .a little over a gram of test per week for the first 3 or 4 weeks ought to be fun. . .I feel sorry for my wife. . .even at 41, prop turns me into a walking hard-on.

 

[digimon7068]

If you've got enough of it, why not do both? Kickstart with the prop for 3-4 weeks, then run it again at the end untill pct.

Actually, I like that idea!

 

[solidspine]

I would run it at the begining, it is all test so it is not going to really matter, but your comments about test e taking a few weeks is right on.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Actually. . .if I decide to kick start with it, I think I'm going to do test-e at 750 ew and prop at 300 ew. . .a little over a gram of test per week for the first 3 or 4 weeks ought to be fun. . .I feel sorry for my wife. . .even at 41, prop turns me into a walking hard-on.

I know what you mean man!

But what I'm uncertain of.... if you do 750mg enth + 300mg prop each week, how much of that is actually "affecting" your body or producing results, for lack of better explanation... You know the prop kicks in immediately... so how much of the enth is "working" in the first few weeks? If the answer is "all of it", then I would imagine it's a better idea to start with a lower enth dosage then bump up when you're done with the prop?

 

[digimon7068]

I know what you mean man!

But what I'm uncertain of.... if you do 750mg enth + 300mg prop each week, how much of that is actually "affecting" your body or producing results, for lack of better explanation... You know the prop kicks in immediately... so how much of the enth is "working" in the first few weeks? If the answer is "all of it", then I would imagine it's a better idea to start with a lower enth dosage then bump up when you're done with the prop?

I don't see jack (muscle-wise) from long-acting stuff like test-e for at least 3 weeks

 

[njmuscleguy]

I don't see jack (muscle-wise) from long-acting stuff like test-e for at least 3 weeks

agreed, same here.... but it's not what you "see" that I'm concerned with, it's how much enth is affecting you physiologically during those first 3 weeks... I know personally I wouldn't want to use over a gram of test, but that's just me

 

[mikefear]

Yeah, that's what I mean. run the prop until the enan has time to start building up and working its magic... then you can drop the prop and wait until the end of your cycle to finish up strong.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Yeah, that's what I mean. run the prop until the enan has time to start building up and working its magic... then you can drop the prop and wait until the end of your cycle to finish up strong.

no argument there.... so, again, what would be a good ratio of prop & enth for the first few weeks?

 

[black sheep]

I would go ahead and do both. I love sust becuase of the long and short esters.

MAKE SURE YOU USE A GOOD AI like Aromasin or AIFM with that much test.

 

[digimon7068]

I would go ahead and do both. I love sust becuase of the long and short esters.

MAKE SURE YOU USE A GOOD AI like Aromasin or AIFM with that much test.

I have AIFM, nolva and letro. . .plenty of each.

 

[digimon7068]

I know personally I wouldn't want to use over a gram of test, but that's just me

That's kind of my thinking because I'm still somewhat of a noob but, my last cycle was test/deca/dbol and the first few weeks was 500 test, 400 deca and 210 dbol (1.11 g's per week) and there weren't any unwanted physical sides. . .mentally I was a little jumpy a few times but that's about it.