Test as a base. Opinions.

[doorstop44]

What are your opinions as always using Test as a base to any cycle?

 

[mikefear]

you'll find that 99% of people on here will think it's a good idea, including me.

since most other aas are just analogues of test, there's no reason not to use the base compound and then use others to exploit a certain characteristic (strength, size, etc.)

 

[doorstop44]

you'll find that 99% of people on here will think it's a good idea, including me.

since most other aas are just analogues of test, there's no reason not to use the base compound and then use others to exploit a certain characteristic (strength, size, etc.)

Thanks for the input mikefear.

 

[Makavelli]

I agree with Mike. I always use test as my base.

 

[doorstop44]

I agree with Mike. I always use test as my base.

What's your opinions on just cutting back on the amount of Test? To use it more for cutting, combined with some anavar.

 

[Makavelli]

What's your opinions on just cutting back on the amount of Test? To use it more for cutting, combined with some anavar.

Well let's put it this way, on my last cutting cycle I used 750 mgs/wk of test. Just us an AI with it. It works great at preserving your mass while losing bodyfat.

 

[KD1]

What's your opinions on just cutting back on the amount of Test? To use it more for cutting, combined with some anavar.

I like that idea, my reasoning is that you are going to have a hard time gaining muscle on a cutting cycle - you are looking to preserve. You wont need a huge dose of test to preserve muscle, I would save the higher doses for a gaining cycle where the extra androgens can be better utilized.

 

[doorstop44]

I like that idea, my reasoning is that you are going to have a hard time gaining muscle on a cutting cycle - you are looking to preserve. You wont need a huge dose of test to preserve muscle, I would save the higher doses for a gaining cycle where the extra androgens can be better utilized.

Thanks for the input KD1 and makavelli. The AI's are very important and of course diet will play a key role. I'm definately looking to preserve the muscle I've gained already. I like the size with the look too.

 

[bilter]

I used to not be big on the idea and ran many cycles without it. But as we age we learn (hopefully). Since I have decided to use test in all my cycles I find they are more effective and recovery is generally easier. So, yes I am a believer

 

[dsh89]

I agree. Test alone or test based cycles are the way to go. I love the stuff!

 

[juicer99]

I wouldn't dream of a test free cycle at this point. Using 250-500mg/wk with the var would make one helluva cutter, assuming you take enough var for long enough (that stuff frustrates me)

 

[gettnlarge01]

Test makes all my cycles far better. I"ve ran cycles without it before and noticed a huge difference.

 

[Makavelli]

I like that idea, my reasoning is that you are going to have a hard time gaining muscle on a cutting cycle - you are looking to preserve. You wont need a huge dose of test to preserve muscle, I would save the higher doses for a gaining cycle where the extra androgens can be better utilized.

Actually the opposite is true. You need more AAS while dieting due to the fact that dieting is catabolic. Therefore higher doses are needed to maintain your mass. While bulking you're eating lots of cals and can use less AAS.

 

[ALIN]

What are your opinions as always using Test as a base to any cycle?

I would not do very many cycles without testosterone. I always suggest test as base. You will look better, feel better, and have much better results with cycle.

 

[thelion2005]

What are your opinions as always using Test as a base to any cycle?

Always.

It is interesting how different types produce different results and not constantly.

 

[Pikaberdot]

From day 1, I never did a cycle without a test base.

 

[Twoguns]

assuming you take enough var for long enough (that stuff frustrates me)

could you extrapolate on this point a bit more. Thanks