Test and EQ - How does this look?

[thebadguy54]

Stats - 30 yo, 5'-9", 200 lbs., 10-12% bf, 15 years training.
This will be my second cycle. My goal is lean mass to increase strength, speed and athletic performance.

Here is what I'm thinking:

week 1-12
250mg (1cc) Enth / week
500mg (2 cc) EQ / week
week 1-15
20mg nolva EOD (if needed)

3 weeks after last injection:
week 15
5000 i.u. hcg /week (5000 iu taken at once)
50mg clomid/day
week 16
5000 i.u. hcg /week (5000 iu split into 3 shots)
50mg clomid/day

My questions are:
How does the cycle look overall?
Is 250mg test EW enough?
Should I run it for longer (because of the EQ)? 14 weeks... 15 weeks?
How does my PCT look?

I was considering using primo instead of test e (since the water retention from the test e may slow me down) but I was told not to run anything without a test base... and I really don't want to mix 3 compounds. It will be my first time with 2.

Thanks bros.

 

[xrsist]

hey bro yer you will need to run the EQ a little longer 14 weeks to get the benifit. 250mg a week of test is a good maintenance dose but if you ran more than that for your first cycle you might wanna bump it up to 300 or 400 a week, running it for 14 weeks would help also. that much HCG in one shot i dont think would be good for you, the day after your last test/eq shot shoot 500iu of HCG ED for 10 days straight. start the clomid a week after youv finished the HCG at 50mg ED for 20-30 days

 

[kaisersose]

Stats - 30 yo, 5'-9", 200 lbs., 10-12% bf, 15 years training.
This will be my second cycle. My goal is lean mass to increase strength, speed and athletic performance.

Here is what I'm thinking:

week 1-12
250mg (1cc) Enth / week
500mg (2 cc) EQ / week
week 1-15
20mg nolva EOD (if needed)

3 weeks after last injection:
week 15
5000 i.u. hcg /week (5000 iu taken at once)
50mg clomid/day
week 16
5000 i.u. hcg /week (5000 iu split into 3 shots)
50mg clomid/day

My questions are:
How does the cycle look overall?
Is 250mg test EW enough?
Should I run it for longer (because of the EQ)? 14 weeks... 15 weeks?
How does my PCT look?

I was considering using primo instead of test e (since the water retention from the test e may slow me down) but I was told not to run anything without a test base... and I really don't want to mix 3 compounds. It will be my first time with 2.

Thanks bros.

What did your first cycle look like? How much lean mass are you looking to gain? I would run the EQ for 14 weeks so that you will see the best results.
You should see some good gains from this. The PCT question is going to get you a lot of different opinions. You can either run a little bit of the HCG during the cycle, like 500 iu per week or 250 iu every 2 days, or you can use it at the end of the cycle in larger doses, such as you mentioned. Nolva/clomid should be started 2 weeks after the last injection and you always wanna run them 2 weeks longer than you did the HCG. If you ran HCG during the cycle, Nolva may be all you need post cycle. Hope this helps.

 

[chilledandy]

HCG is counter productive to PCT as it only boosts natural test levels, not restarts them. The boost it gives leads to further suppression of natty test levels and as such must be finished before PCT can begin. Therefore, take the HCG for two weeks starting after your done with your test and EQ and then start your PCT for 4 weeks after the HCG. Its already been said, but 5000iu is too much in one shot. 500iu is better. Do HCG at least every 5 days if not more.
250mg of Test is enough if all your looking for is a maintainance dose (a dose equal to or slightly higher then what you would have naturally but don't due to shut down from the other substances). You will see some gains from this level of Test, but not a massive amount.

 

[Thoxi]

Would a dose of 250mg test e yield the normal test side effects being just above what he would have in his body naturally?

I mean, there's a ton of possible sides with test, but at that low a dosage...?

 

[thebadguy54]

Thanks everyone.

Does this look better? I'll make it 15 weeks so it works out to exactly 3 bottles.

week 1-15
500 mg Test E / week
500 mg EQ / week
20 mg Nolva EOD (if needed)

day after last shot:
500 i.u. of HCG ED for 10 days
7 days after last shot of HCG:
50 mg Clomid ED for 21 days

 

[xrsist]

Thanks everyone.

Does this look better? I'll make it 15 weeks so it works out to exactly 3 bottles.

week 1-15
500 mg Test E / week
500 mg EQ / week
20 mg Nolva EOD (if needed)

day after last shot:
500 i.u. of HCG ED for 10 days
7 days after last shot of HCG:
50 mg Clomid ED for 21 days

looks good to me bro, you should do real well with that. clomid maybe 28 days tho. enjoy

 

[thebadguy54]

What did your first cycle look like? How much lean mass are you looking to gain? I would run the EQ for 14 weeks so that you will see the best results.
You should see some good gains from this. The PCT question is going to get you a lot of different opinions. You can either run a little bit of the HCG during the cycle, like 500 iu per week or 250 iu every 2 days, or you can use it at the end of the cycle in larger doses, such as you mentioned. Nolva/clomid should be started 2 weeks after the last injection and you always wanna run them 2 weeks longer than you did the HCG. If you ran HCG during the cycle, Nolva may be all you need post cycle. Hope this helps.

My first Cycle was 10 weeks of Test E at 500 mg / week. I gained about 15 lbs.

As far as how much I'm looking to gain this time... I want to gain as much strength/power as possible and still keep my speed (I need to be able to run fast). Another 10 lbs. would be sufficient.