test and Dbol first cycle opinions?

[arnoldjr]

6'2'' 180 lbs lifting for about 4 years, bodyfat around 10%(pretty lean). I am looking too put on some mass and have read up on what Im getting into, I am thinking QV test enantat 500mg for 10 weeks, frontloading D-bol for first 2 weeks. Clomid for PTC. I am looking to gain as much keepable lbs as I can. What can I expect as far as sides from the test, how much weight could be gained if diet/workouts are good and also I read that test does not provide good keepable gains, any input is much appreciated!!!

 

[swordfish151]

6'2'' 180 lbs lifting for about 4 years, bodyfat around 10%(pretty lean). I am looking too put on some mass and have read up on what Im getting into, I am thinking QV test enantat 500mg for 10 weeks, frontloading D-bol for first 2 weeks. Clomid for PTC. I am looking to gain as much keepable lbs as I can. What can I expect as far as sides from the test, how much weight could be gained if diet/workouts are good and also I read that test does not provide good keepable gains, any input is much appreciated!!!

How much dbol you planning on doing? I'd bump the dbol to 4wks front loaded..20mgs a day....i'd also consider nolva, and a-dex in your pct.

 

[Maxx Out]

6'2'' 180 lbs lifting for about 4 years, bodyfat around 10%(pretty lean). I am looking too put on some mass and have read up on what Im getting into, I am thinking QV test enantat 500mg for 10 weeks, frontloading D-bol for first 2 weeks. Clomid for PTC. I am looking to gain as much keepable lbs as I can. What can I expect as far as sides from the test, how much weight could be gained if diet/workouts are good and also I read that test does not provide good keepable gains, any input is much appreciated!!!

For a first test will be just fine, no need for the d-bol's.

 

[arnoldjr]

yea I was thinking that test would be good enough also, I kind of wanted the Dbol for the quicker gains in the begining, but do you notice the test kick in pretty early?

 

[swordfish151]

For a first test will be just fine, no need for the d-bol's.

Yeah, i'd go with that too...although test/dbol first timer isnt that bad either.

 

[swordfish151]

yea I was thinking that test would be good enough also, I kind of wanted the Dbol for the quicker gains in the begining, but do you notice the test kick in pretty early?

I would say go with the test alone then....keep the dbols for your second cycle...

 

[sweed]

i did test dbol for my first and loved it.. i am 6'2'' so i know its hard to put on weight, and i got up to 250 for my max this past spring.

 

[Khalnayak]

gains can be kept if your PCT,diet and training are good.Most of what u will lose will be water

 

[asianlover]

i would do test/dbol. it is going to take a while for the test to kick in so run the dbol for about 4 wks.

 

[Retabolil2]

For a first test will be just fine, no need for the d-bol's.

My first cycle was dbol only at 20mg a day for two months.... great experience. since he is a newbie most likely he has a needlefobia

 

[sweed]

My first cycle was dbol only at 20mg a day for two months.... great experience. since he is a newbie most likely he has a needlefobia

i can't see shit like that, like the medical channel or whatever u wanna call it. when i see drs opening up a patient, i can;t see it.. even a needle going into someone else. but with me.. its easy... my first time jabbing was pretty damn easy. i knew i had to do it, so i said to myself , " if i feel pain i will stop" i didn;t feel any pain and when i looked i was half way in, so now i can deal with it.. pretty easy now! time to jab myself in a few actually