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Test 400 (not worth it)

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Pi Kapp729

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Just thought I would let the board know my results on the Test 400. I have been taking 1 1/2 cc every four days and 2 cc of prop. 3 days after each 400 shot. For a total of almost 1500 mgs per week. I have gained 11 pounds in six weeks and am holding no water what so ever. There is no way that the 400 is legit. It is not totally fake by any means but I do not believe for a second that it contains what it claims to. And for those of you on the board that said the pain wasn't bad... BULLSHIT your lying to yourself, I have barely been able to move in my sleep for the past 6 weeks.(sustanon pain times 20)

Over priced+poor results+terrible pain= NOT WORTH IT!

Pi Kapp729
 
thanks for the heads up... i thought about buying some awhile back too! i think i've heard good shit about it though, did you train right or what? not saying thats the prob, but maybe it is BunK.. later
Mike001
 
SAMPLE IDENTIFICATION---BROWN 10ML VIAL - BLACK LABEL YELLOW PRINT / YELLOW FLIP TOP - T400 DENKALL SAMPLE VOLUME--1.04ML ALCOHOL CONTENT--11 % BENZYL ALCOHOL BACTERIA COUNT--<5 ORGANISMS PER 1.04ML ACTIVE INGREDIENT-- 349 MGS TESTOSTERONE **BREAKDOWN IS AS FOLLOWS** TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE--32MGS TESTOSTERONE CYPIONATE--151MGS TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE--166MGS
these are the test results that I have seen on two other boards. Don't know how legit they are though. I ran out of aratest and had to get t-400 in my 6th week and am seeing great results in both strength and size. I personally like it.
 
Pi, that is your personal opinion and you should state that. First of all my friends and I have all had great results with no more then 1 1/2 cc by it self every one of gain at least 7-10lbs in just 5 weeks. There is no way the T-400 I used can be underdosed by that much with the results my friend and I had. As for the pain you must be a novice and probably dont read that much because it has been talk about alot just mix it with deca or eq if you cant stand the pain a half cc of either will make it pain free!!
 
GH Kid said:
Pi, that is your personal opinion and you should state that. First of all my friends and I have all had great results with no more then 1 1/2 cc by it self every one of gain at least 7-10lbs in just 5 weeks. There is no way the T-400 I used can be underdosed by that much with the results my friend and I had. As for the pain you must be a novice and probably dont read that much because it has been talk about alot just mix it with deca or eq if you cant stand the pain a half cc of either will make it pain free!!
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That about sums it up. I used it for 1 cycle and had great results. i was holding my fair share of water and then some. Sorry it didn't work for you, but there is nothing wrong with this product
 
Denkall usually makes quality (although overpriced) products, but I never understood the premise behind making this product. Like I said before, I think they are being consulted by some people not quite in tune with the North American BB'ing target market.
 
Pi Kapp, sorry to hear your experience with T400 wasn't that good. On the other hand I've had great results from it shooting 1cc/wk. As for the pain, I'm not lying to myself either. I can only surmise that you're shooting the t400 by itself. (Something I haven't done) Otherwise, if you're mixing it with something (1 cc of Eq to 1/2 cc of t400 2x/wk in my case) and heating it under warm water than it's a fairly painless shot.
 
Slopain I think you hit it on the head. The can't be. Why add Cyp and Eth in the same shot why not just up the dose of one or the other. Then again these are not intended for human use. These are supposed to be designed for animals. But then again, why are they increasing the dose of products when the normal injection amount for a bovine is 1cc when it was T-200.
 
Good post... T-400 is shit and the pain is there for a reason... Because it is killing muscle tissue. Also, your results confirmed my suspicion that it had to be underdosed.

Why can't someone come up with a primo 300? Now that would be the SHIT!!!
 
i take 2cc's once a week of t-400. im just finishing my first week up and my weight has gone from 225 to 230 already. its most likely all water, but the shit works.
i think its getting a bad wrap because of the pain, and yes it hurts wosre then anything ive tried yet, but i cant wiat to see what i gain off this cycle.
 
Hey eviserator, what do you mean it is killing muscle tissue. I just started taking test 400 but I feel absolutly no pain after the shot. Have you read something about about it killing muscle, if so please tell me where. I would really like to investigate it.

thanks, ORCA
 
HEY ORCA, ARE YOU SURE THATS T-400 YOUR TAKING, HOW LONG AGO DID YOU TAKE YOUR SHOT. YOU SHOULD DEFINATLY FEL SOMETHING
 
Pure Poison....

T400 is some Lab Geek's revenge for all the jocks who used to kick his ass in school. It is sheer misery
 
I agree that the cyp, enath, and prop mix doesn't make sense but that fact that it is 400mg or something close to that is great when your taking 2000mg per week of test. 10cc of t-200 with t-400 that allows you to cut the injection volume in half plus getting ready for a show has you taking much more then just the test so any cut in injection volume is welcome. Between t-400 and ultragain I am starting to love Denkal!!
 
PK, Did you ever stop and think...maybe you T400 was switched with propinate? Seriously, don't put it past some shadey guys to slip the top off, drain it, fill it with something else, then use finger nail polish (clear) to get the lid back on.

I haven't used it, but have heard many good things, which make me wonder about the bad experiences and the legitemacy of the products they are getting.
 
First of all for the GH kid, anything posted on the board is obviously the posters personnal opinion and no one should have to state that just so guys like you don't get offended. And as for Mike0001, I trained my ass off and ate like a champ. And I am also positive that the 400 I have was untouched. I hope you guys that are seeing some good results continue to see them. All I know is that if I were to take individual shots of enth., cyp., and prop. , at the mg levels I have been I would have gained more than 11 pounds and would be holding a lot more H2O.

I'll try anything once, and you find some things are not worth doing it again.
 
I Like it so far its my second weeks and up 13lbs for far!!!!

yes allmost all of it is water right now but hey that means more strength = More Muscle!!!!!:D
 
iam taking it the hell with the pain not a big deal like how you people say it is but maybe its just me...yeah i get pain but no big deal...and iam on it and iam getting great gainz iam only taking 1cc a week
 
Taken 3 sticks so far -1cc each stacking with Dbol went from 203 to 218 so far.
Although that could be the dbol. Pain is about like a Sustenon shot not too bad.
I think it's working alright but to be honest I was expecting a little more - maybe I should up my dosages.
 
The pain is from the prop. I have never tried it yet, but I plan to fairly soon. Cannot beat it for the price. The worst pain I have felt is from Primo, now that shit killed my ass. I couldn't stand or sit down, had to kind of lean against the wall and sweat it out.
 
MP5 said:
The pain is from the prop. I have never tried it yet, but I plan to fairly soon. Cannot beat it for the price. The worst pain I have felt is from Primo, now that shit killed my ass. I couldn't stand or sit down, had to kind of lean against the wall and sweat it out.
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25mg of prop isn't gonna hurt anybody.LOL
 
I wouldn't think 25mg would hurt either, but I cannot figure how enth, or cyp would hurt like that.:confused: Unless there is some mystery ester in there that they are not telling you about. I got a bottle of Nor200 once and it made my ass swell and the pain was terrible. Who knows what the fuck was really in the bottle.
 
The reason it hurts some people is because the High Alcohol content in it.

To mix that much test into 1ml of oil is a hard task to do and also keep it stable enough to sell.
 
Big J is right it definitly is the alchol content but a half cc of deca or eq mixed w/ the T-400 will leave you pain free.
 
i wouldnt say pain free gh, i mixed 1 cc of t-400 with 1 cc of deca, and the pain was still pretty bad. for me mixing it with a cc of b-12 worked a little better
 
I'd like the stuff better if it was just one straight ester and not a mix. But the price seams OK.

With the three types of ester how do you'll recommend taking the shots every 5th day, every 6th day or one week.
 
Aww fuck, well.. at least bros.. i will give you the straight dope.. tomorrow Im starting a mix of t400, deca (ttokyo), and testanon (ttokyo) they are all mixed in a shampo bottle, so I really cant separate them out. the mix, each cc gives me 120mg deca, 160mg t400 50mg sust.... oh well... i will let you know how bad it gets??
 
I started t-400 yesturday. It had security stickers all over it. Its legit. Also yes it hurts. i hae gained 4 pounds in 2 days already. I have done alot of juice and I have had nothig give me the flu like shit as fast as this has it real. I also will agree it fucking hurts so bad i can't sleep either but fuckin hey ( rap and pilliage everything and get huge!!!!!!!!
 
im using it right now. i did 2 sticks w/o mixing it with EQ and the pain is definately real.
i haven't weighed myself yet so im not sure how the gains are coming, its only been a week so i doubt i've got much if anything. sleepin is hell, especially rolling over, it hurts like a bitch.. but its nothing u can't deal with. just suck it up. it also made me run a fever.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
Good post... T-400 is shit and the pain is there for a reason... Because it is killing muscle tissue. Also, your results confirmed my suspicion that it had to be underdosed.

Why can't someone come up with a primo 300? Now that would be the SHIT!!!

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What kind of logic are you using here? If T400 is using a high benzyl alcohol content to get 400mg's of test in one cc of oil WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO DISSOLVE 300 MG's of Methenolone enanthate (Primobolan) in one cc of oil?
BTW the amount of BA in T400 is NOT causing tissue necrosis-if it were mixing it in one cc of sterile oil or low dosed EQ wouldn't work now would it? No it wouldn't.
I haven't heard of anyone getting myectomies due to tissue necrosis from this-and for sure never will.
The only thing correct is that T400 is likely to be slightly underdosed just b/c its hard to make in the first place.
 
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