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nope should have patient doctor privileges unless active in sports or something even then they cant really do anything to u at all maybe quit seeing u at absolute worst which is very doubtfull because they want ur money i would suggest tellin them from what ive read on here from other peoples no experience with that myself
i made a HUGE mistake years ago with my first pancreas flair up of saying I was on roids. to date I have been turned down for every life insurance I have ever applied for so have it through work only. i learned to speak off the record of my use but there is an understanding it is never ever repeated in my records. learn from my mistake.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...oes-your-physician-know-you-cycle-570167.html go read this previous post it should answer ur questions and as i said doctor patient privileges
I would like to have a lawer chime in on this one....my money is on the fact that a doctors just as a lawyer can say things "off the record" . The info might not be able to get used in a court but it can do a lot of damage otherwise.
Who is going to enforce this law anyway when the feds are asking for your records?
I guess you have not seen those "Clinics" which named all of their patients and what they did
When you do something illegal all your bets are off, don't care what the law say-it is meant for law abiding citizens
Who is going to enforce this law anyway when the feds are asking for your records?
I guess you have not seen those "Clinics" which named all of their patients and what they did
When you do something illegal all your bets are off, don't care what the law say-it is meant for law abiding citizens
ukkared
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/insurance-560590-2.html
There's an interesting thread from a while back.
There's an interesting thread from a while back.
What is a Doctor-Patient Privilege?
A doctor-patient privilege ensures that as a patient, your medical history, conditions, and related information cannot be divulged without your permission. Patients should be able to tell their doctors private and sensitive information knowing that it will not be made public. Even a doctor’s observations and opinions are covered by the doctor-patient privilege.
Are There Any Exceptions to This Privilege?
Despite the need to preserve the confidentiality of medical information, there are many instances where the doctor-patient privilege does not apply. Here are some examples:
* Health insurance – Health insurance providers can get medical information without asking your consent if it is for billing purposes. An insurer needs to know what condition you have to determine if they will cover it. However, the insurance company generally cannot forward this information to others without your express consent.
* Health care workers – sometimes releasing your information is necessary in order to provide the proper care. An example would be if you got into a car accident and lost conscious; the hospital you went to would need to obtain your medical information to provide proper care.
* Lawsuits – If medical conditions are at issue in a lawsuit, medical records may be released to resolve the lawsuit. For example, if you were suing for worker’s compensation because your employer refuses to pay, your medical information will likely be admitted into evidence.
* Criminal liability – this pertains mostly to psychiatric care. If a patient tells the psychiatrist about having committed a crime or that they are thinking about committing one, the psychiatrist may be compelled to report it to the authorities. Psychiatrists will not always report it because they want the patient to express everything freely.
What Can I Do if My Doctor Violates the Doctor-Patient Privilege?
If you believe that your doctor has violated the privilege, contact an experienced medical malpractice attorney. A medical malpractice attorney can tell you more about your rights, defenses, and the complicated legal system.
this will cover about everything u would want or need to know and sorry to say varga is right about the health insurance if u read sorry to doubt u
A doctor-patient privilege ensures that as a patient, your medical history, conditions, and related information cannot be divulged without your permission. Patients should be able to tell their doctors private and sensitive information knowing that it will not be made public. Even a doctor’s observations and opinions are covered by the doctor-patient privilege.
Are There Any Exceptions to This Privilege?
Despite the need to preserve the confidentiality of medical information, there are many instances where the doctor-patient privilege does not apply. Here are some examples:
* Health insurance – Health insurance providers can get medical information without asking your consent if it is for billing purposes. An insurer needs to know what condition you have to determine if they will cover it. However, the insurance company generally cannot forward this information to others without your express consent.
* Health care workers – sometimes releasing your information is necessary in order to provide the proper care. An example would be if you got into a car accident and lost conscious; the hospital you went to would need to obtain your medical information to provide proper care.
* Lawsuits – If medical conditions are at issue in a lawsuit, medical records may be released to resolve the lawsuit. For example, if you were suing for worker’s compensation because your employer refuses to pay, your medical information will likely be admitted into evidence.
* Criminal liability – this pertains mostly to psychiatric care. If a patient tells the psychiatrist about having committed a crime or that they are thinking about committing one, the psychiatrist may be compelled to report it to the authorities. Psychiatrists will not always report it because they want the patient to express everything freely.
What Can I Do if My Doctor Violates the Doctor-Patient Privilege?
If you believe that your doctor has violated the privilege, contact an experienced medical malpractice attorney. A medical malpractice attorney can tell you more about your rights, defenses, and the complicated legal system.
this will cover about everything u would want or need to know and sorry to say varga is right about the health insurance if u read sorry to doubt u
Tatyana
Elite Mentor
LB55 said:
I think you need to check the situation with your doctor. Some are fantastic, mine is.
He will NEVER put anything in my medical records that might jeporadise any further need for life insurance, mortgage.
It sounds like it is different in the US, but in the UK, insurance and mortgage companies need written permission for your records.
However, if there is something in there like 'steroid use/abuse' you may find it difficult to get insurance (or a mortgage in the UK).
He does have the choice of what he puts in your permanent records, or he can paraphrase it differently.
needtogetarmy
CEO of Project Mayhem
flexed1 said:
Also expect future health insurance coverage rate to go up. Insurance companies can (and will) do this if they know you have used AAS.
Realize there is doc patient confidentiality but the doc files with your insurance company and the insurance company knows what the hell is going on.
MorganKane
New member
LB55 said:
You gave that up when you signed your medical insurance papers.
The insurance company knows everything the doctor puts in your file.
I got medical insurance and I am in the process of getting life insurance.
As a part of that process is that you agree that they can access ALL your medical files. They get copies of your medical files and notes. They review EVERYTHING.
My medical insurance went up with 50 bucks a month since my BMI is over their limit. Most guys on this board will be over limit since we lift weights.
holy ghost
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Great post MK, what you up to man
nemesis 2027
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Told the dr. today, and he is keeping my 'confession' off the record, but insists I try Androgel before I use any more unsanctioned gear, as it may be all I need for an old aged boost in my low test levels..
So Tatyana, per a post way back when I was struggling with the sides from D.bol, and you suggested I tell the dr. the truth for proper treatment, I finally did it. Better late than never. Thanks for the advice. I wasn't thinking real straight at the time I was experiencing the BP and headache issues..
We'll see what the future holds.. I have me foot in the right door now it would seem. It's a start.
So Tatyana, per a post way back when I was struggling with the sides from D.bol, and you suggested I tell the dr. the truth for proper treatment, I finally did it. Better late than never. Thanks for the advice. I wasn't thinking real straight at the time I was experiencing the BP and headache issues..
We'll see what the future holds.. I have me foot in the right door now it would seem. It's a start.
LiquidPhire
New member
Why would you even bother telling another person? The only person who SHOULD know is yourself. Unless the trust is absolute.
nemesis 2027
New member
Liquid2006 said:
I've known my dr. for over 15 years, and I believe "the trust is absolute". He is more conservative than I would prefer, but he knows what he can do to help me medically, legally and financially.
Bro, we 'potentially tell' everyone in the world almost everytime we post on here. (hypothetically speaking) lol
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MorganKane
New member
nemesis 2027 said:
If you have a problem sure I would tell if I really had too but just confessing to a doc so you can have blood work done is wrong, in my opinion.
Dont risk your health to keep the secret.
Your doc sounds like a good one...
MorganKane
New member
holy ghost said:
I have been dealing with life insurance cr@p for while now.
They have dug up about every note and file for the last 7 years or so.
frustrating as hell, I was told yesterday that my life insurance will cost me $60 more per month since they found some old records indicating that I had high RBC almost 2 years ago. They want me to do new blood work but I am on cycle so thats not going to happen.
The insurance company knows more about my medical history then I do.
They even sent me copies of the doctors notes that they have.
nemesis 2027
New member
MorganKane said:
Yeah my dr. is really good and he's just being cautious as he is no expert on HRT, etc.. I also know he would not add 'unnecessary damaging' information to my records.
However, you bring up a good point about the facts of history, bloodwork, diagnosis, prescriptions, etc.. Can't hide that stuff, and life Ins. companies can freak out if you've complained of a headache more than once.. (deja-vu) Not to mention being "obese" if you have more muscle weight than the average nerd.. Damn, didn't think about that..
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