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Ok I have a few questions. I'm currently running this cycle. Weeks 1-16 300mg Test P, 1-16 600Mg Eq, 1-16 300Mg Masteron, 1-6 60mg Anavar. I started to notice puffy nips and a lump under my right nip about 4 weeks in so I started Letro EOD didn't take arimidex cause I thought masteron would keep the estro down enough lumps have been gone for 2 weeks but my sex drive is way down. Wondering if I can switch to arimidex now that I have it under control cause with letro my gains have slowed up also. I also have aromasin, prami, caber, nolva, clomid on hand if you think one of those would be better. Also I'm 10 weeks into my cycle and I'm wondering if I could add Beast and Epistrong to the end of my cycle or do you think that would be too toxic. Thanks for your help on this.
 
im about to jump back on after 9months off,i will be on humalog post workout at 10iu,used many times before but been reading on dudes using without carbs????any thoughts on this as sounds dangerous
 
I've been on sustanon cycle for 2 and 1/2 mos. I felt fine for most of the cycle but now I feel extreme fatigue and I'm actually getting weaker instead of stronger. Could this be adrenal fatigue? I have had a stronger craving for carbs the past few days and my workouts have been crap
 
Been taking HCG during Test E cycle. 5 weeks in. I have 3 5000iu shots left. Can i leave these 3 shots until end of 10 week cycle and do 6 2500iu e3d before PCT? sorry if this sounds stupid, just something i heard.
 
Been taking HCG during Test E cycle. 5 weeks in. I have 3 5000iu shots left. Can i leave these 3 shots until end of 10 week cycle and do 6 2500iu e3d before PCT? sorry if this sounds stupid, just something i heard.

what you should be doing is 500ius twice a week every week well on cycle. Now that you been running it way higher you should not take any more off cycle its not worth it.
 
25 years old
taken a few cycles
5'6 float between 150-175lbs
small framed person by genetics about 135 when i dont lift
lifting for 8 years dedication varies depending on lifes happenings

Ive usually taken somewhat of cutter cycles consisting on tren and prop and thats about it but usually only get super lean and up to about 165 which looks great for my height but i want more size but without my face bloat that Enanthate or Sus bring on.

1. Can i suppress the bloat by taking primo or small amts of letro or something? that way i can take anadrol or dbol to gain more size?
2. basically im looking for your recommendation on what i can do to put on some serious size i want to hit the 180 mark without it all being watery blowfish look with a head the size of a basketball.
3. How many times can someone take tren without having to worry about long term liver damage? Ive taken it 3-4 times before should i dump it forever?
4. My next cycle was gonna consist of tren/prop/primo/anavar but could i still gain significant amt of weight and drop the tren?

Obviously one of my problems in the past has been not eating as much as i should but i like staying lean while gaining quality size
 
Needto, I was gonna pm you but figured I'd add it to this thread.



My product is maaad thick son. Like I'm having very big issues just getting 2.5cc in a single shot. Takes way too long and I can't wait it out. This is after warming it up pretty well.

Any thoughts bro? I'm using 23g 1" right now. Was originally planning 25g for delts but that's not happening lol
 
Needto, I was gonna pm you but figured I'd add it to this thread.



My product is maaad thick son. Like I'm having very big issues just getting 2.5cc in a single shot. Takes way too long and I can't wait it out. This is after warming it up pretty well.

Any thoughts bro? I'm using 23g 1" right now. Was originally planning 25g for delts but that's not happening lol

use a 18 to draw and a 23 to inject.
 
Great thread. Who would've known that most people have very common and very similar problems on cycle.
 
My Estaridol came back high range of 33 out of 45(not taking anything at all... AAS, nothing). I know someting like arimidex would lower it but Im questioning the reason why it would be high without taking anything. Also for what Ive read having high estaridol can lower libido.... Comments pls.
 
My Estaridol came back high range of 33 out of 45(not taking anything at all... AAS, nothing). I know someting like arimidex would lower it but Im questioning the reason why it would be high without taking anything. Also for what Ive read having high estaridol can lower libido.... Comments pls.

Yes having high estrogen can of course lower sex drive. Will it always do that? No not always but it deff can do this.

Photo estrogens and xenoestrogens is why you have high estrogen my friend. Orat least it can be for you and for many people who have High estrogens but do not take any drugs. Ever wounder why yung girls are growing huge double d breast at the age of 13 these days? Or why More and more men are experiencing gyno problems at a young age yet do not take any drugs?





xenoestrogens


Xeno literally means foreign, therefore xenoestrogens means foreign estrogens. Some of the 70,000 registered chemicals for use in the United States have hormonal effects in addition to toxic effects. The synergistic effects of exposure to many xenoestrogens are well documented. Xenoestrogens found in certain pesticides, plastics, fuels and drugs are usually synthetic and difficult for the body to break down, and can amplify the effects of estrogen. These substances can increase the estrogen load in the body over time, and are difficult to detoxify through the Liver. Exposure to xenoestrogens is a concern for everyone.


Sources of Xenoestrogens
Commercially raised meat
Canned foods
Plastics, plastic food wraps
Styrofoam cups
Industrial wastes
Personal care products
Pesticides and herbicides
Paints, lacquers and solvents
Plant estrogens (soy, flaxseeds)
Car exhaust and indoor toxins
Cosmetics
Birth control pills and spermicide
Detergents
All artificial scents
Air fresheners, perfumes, etc)


Phytoestrogens


Phytoestrogens (phyto meaning plant) are naturally occurring estrogenic compounds that are found in a variety of foods, herbs, spices. Their chemical structure resembles estrogen. These compounds are generally weak estrogens, in comparison to real estrogen and xenoestrogens, but in a body that is already experiencing too much estrogen, adding more will contribute to the problem.

Some of the strongest phytoestrogen containing substances are soy, the lignans found in flax seed products, red clover, black cohosh, chasteberry, and dong quai. Soy includes soybeans, soy milk, tofu, tempeh, textured vegetable Protein, roasted soybeans, soy granules, soy Protein powders, miso, and edamames.

Over consumption of phytoestrogenic foods or herbs on a long term basis may actually increase the risk of estrogen dominance significantly. Furthermore, phytoestrogens have been shown to inhibit the conversion of T4 to the active T3 thyroid hormone, and can trigger hypothyroidism. It is suggested that those with a history of thyroid imbalance

YOUR Liver
Estrogen breakdown occurs in the Liver, and the excreted metabolites flow out in the bile or urine. Estradiol and estrone undergo this breakdown through a process called hydroxylation, an enzymatic activity in which the parent estrogen is transformed by the addition of a hydroxyl (OH) group at specific positions on estrogen's molecular ring.

This brake down and excretion is slowed down when the Liver is bogged down. Take reg Liver sups during otc and e-legal steriod/pro hormone cycles.

I myself take Forged Liver support but soon will be using needtobuildmuscles new product N2guard.

Others like some of there other products like Liver CARE,Liver-Rx, or AX PERFECT CYCLE. Some people take Unleashed from Protein factory as well. You can find this extremely cheap at the ef store. What ever you take make sure you research it well and always get it as cheap as you can. Pm me for discount no matter what store you are buying it from.
 
Hello,
I'm a first timer. I have Deca Durabolin on deck ready to go in a few weeks. I was told to take 1cc every week for 10 weeks. I was also told that I would most likely get Deca Dick while on it, but that it would go back to normal after I'm off the Deca only cycle. So my questions are, is there anyway of preventing the Deca dick while on the Deca only cycle? would Viagra or Ciales help during the cycle to help during intimate situations? and whats the best PCT for me to use after the 2-3 weeks of my last Deca shot??
The guy told me I didn't need a PCT, but I think I do?
 
Hello,
I'm a first timer. I have Deca Durabolin on deck ready to go in a few weeks. I was told to take 1cc every week for 10 weeks. I was also told that I would most likely get Deca Dick while on it, but that it would go back to normal after I'm off the Deca only cycle. So my questions are, is there anyway of preventing the Deca dick while on the Deca only cycle? would Viagra or Ciales help during the cycle to help during intimate situations? and whats the best PCT for me to use after the 2-3 weeks of my last Deca shot??
The guy told me I didn't need a PCT, but I think I do?

the last thing you want to do is run deca with out any test and alos run deca for your first cycle.

A good deca cycle looks like this though




common bulk cycle.


weeks
1-12 test-e 250mg Monday and thursday
1-10 deca 300 once a week
8-12 hcgenerate 5 caps ed dpread out (HCGenerate)
12-16 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
12-16 clomid 25mg ed (rxhealthdrugs.com)

Have Femara (letrozole)40 2.5mg tabs and Bromocriptin (Bromocriptine) 60 2.5mg tabs on hand for the cycle in case of sides. You can also get that from rxhealthdrugs.com too

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Im looking for diagram for halv lives for sustanon both gluteus and bis,delt
If somone have calculations spreedsheets in exel for diffrent steriods that wpold be grat

Thanks
Svitjod
 
Im looking for diagram for halv lives for sustanon both gluteus and bis,delt
If somone have calculations spreedsheets in exel for diffrent steriods that wpold be grat

Thanks
Svitjod

check the steroids 101 thread at the top of the forum bro

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Letro is fuckin with my head bad real bad I'm so angry ugh what to do? Running it with dost for gyno removal sex drive and joints are still okay...
 
i got a question i never did steroids and im 21 180pounnds im having a hard time getting size and im thinking of starting to use testerone to gain size and strainght should i use testerone by it self or use it together with deca? and for how many months and how many times a week thanks
 
I am 25 176lbs 171cm do you think that is a good staring weight for a cycle

I think all this shit people talk about having to be a set weight, or set body fat percent before running a cycle is all a load of horse shit. 90% of the people preaching it deff did not take there own advice in the first place.

Your experience level is another matter altogether and also if you have done your home work or not. Once should at the least put in some research time before doing anything
 
hey man, im 6 foot 210 and im about to start my first cycle of winstrol alone.
i got a 50 mg bottle and need advice because i have no clue what im doing. I just want to get lean or cut up. What should I be eating everyday and how many days a week should i inject and how much should it be each time? thanks alot bro
 
hey man, im 6 foot 210 and im about to start my first cycle of winstrol alone.
i got a 50 mg bottle and need advice because i have no clue what im doing. I just want to get lean or cut up. What should I be eating everyday and how many days a week should i inject and how much should it be each time? thanks alot bro

Bro your under 21.....stay natty and you've already been posting all over for help
 
Hey needto, got a question...
This is week 4 of my first cycle , 500mg test cyp per week
I'm on TRT.
So far everything is goin ok, I have arimidex, I have no signs of gyno.
I've been taking .5 of arimidex on the day of my shots wed and sat.
I've read in other replies that some feel on this type of cycle to not take an AI unless u see gyno symptoms.
Should I not be taking the AI just yet and wait, or continue to keep signs of gyno at bay?
Is it true taming the AI can hinder my gains? Or in my case will it be ok.
I was just worried that if I didn't take it, and suddenly got gyno symptoms, it might be too late for arimidex to fix it up

Thanx
 
I know it's been said a million or so times, but Needto is the man! Threads like this show just how much he cares, and his commitment to this community!
 
Ok, it wont let me post links yet...

Question about Epogen, and cycle advice...got a thread titled "Epogen/Cycle q's"

Any advice/answers would be awesome.

Thanks
 
Hey I am brand new to the site. Not even sure if I write here or not. But I signed up to get some more info and a cycle I am thinking of starting If I am in the right spot let me know if not point me in the right direction please
 
Ran 400 mg/s wk test cyp started back in Jul '11
ran HCGenerate the last 5 weeks of cycle but had an unfortunate shoulder (rotator cuff) injury w/ 3 weeks left
day after last pin I started forma 5 pumps 2x day for 7 weeks
2 weeks after last pin i ran unleashed/post cycle -5 weeks

problem now is i am still feeling "shut down"
thoughts?
 
Hi im new to the site and not sure hopefully i can be directed to the right section or either get assted with my current cycle.

STATS 5' 11'
27 years of age
200lbs
11% body fat

running
2cc of sustanon 250 - 2 times a week
.5 cc of tren A - 1 time a week
250mg of winny each day
added 1cc of EQ - 2 times a week




working out about 5 times a week
eating clean no spices
olive oil spray and garlic
cardio 30 minutes a day for 5 days




i have seen some different in strength and a bit in body but no what i expected. i started back in july only with winny and sust
throughtout about 3 weeks in aug and 1 week in nov i couldnt be on due to being outta the country.

i just added tren a week ago. and EQ this week

im not sure if im not as patient to see more definition ,?? if its the cardio that needs to be uppped??

just asking for some feedback??

thanks
 
Hi there,

this is my first cycle, and i am on test-e 500mg/week, i just had my cholesterol checked and the doctor said it was very high, so i searched the forum and found out that fish oil and lipid stabil will help, the problem is, i dont have access to lipid stabil in my country, and only easily available oil is COD LIVER OIL, it contains 0.32 ml of oil in per capsule, Also there is oil available in liquid bottle, it says it contains 1.8mg omega-3 per 10 ml
So i am really confused here,

how much omega-3 or how much cod liver oil????

Thanks
 
I have a total estrogen of 194 (130 or less) and an Estradiol level of 18 (<43)! I've been trying to dial in my Estradiol level. I suspected it was high due to dizziness, redness of the skin, hot flashes, and moodiness.

I have been on TRT for two years now trying to find the right dosages that work for me. I was recently taking 125 mg Test Enanthate for about 9 weeks and .25mg adex EOD, but I became dizzy and felt really bad so I lowered the dose to 60mg one week, then 80 mg the next then back to 110mg a week. The symptoms pretty much subsided. My Dr. switched me to Test Cyp and I plan to continue as follows:

110 mg Test Cyp a week
.25 Arimidex EOD

I thought for sure when I got my labs back that the Estradiol would be high, boy was I suprised. Now I really don't know what to do because if I increase my adex dosage to lower the total Estrogen, my E2 will be in the toilet. Please help!!!!!

BTW I did a peak test (two and a half days after my shot) on my last labs because I suspected my E2 was high, the results are:

Total Test: 1336 250-1100
Free Test: 311.6 35.0-155.0
 
Just pinned my First pins for my Test/Tren/Dbol cycle.

Test-400 blend and Tri-Tren 150 blend. Very good source and reliable product. 3 days later both my legs ACHE like mad! Difficult to walk and it's leg session time. Any advice? Tri-tren 150mg/ml 1x week. Test-400 400mg/ml 2x Week.

Done one in each thigh. Really finding it hard to be mobile :(. Hope you have an idea. I should mention it was my first ever pins. So might just need to get used to it. Reassurance is always good :)
 
Hi Need2,

I have had this problem on nearly all of my cycles.

I have just started (3days in) to a new cycle and my shins area already beginning to feel uncomfortable.

On my last two cycles I suffered with shin pain (cycle 1) and calf pain (cycle 2).

I am taking plenty of taurine and running a lot of vits and mins with the cycles.

I'm not sure if it has something to do with the weightlifting shoes I wear or its just my body telling me I'm too heavy?

Any help would be great,
Cheers
 
i developed gynecomastia about 6 months ago and now i have a lump about half the size of a gulf ball under each nipple.. it still aches from time to time.. i was wondering if the product NOLVADEX helps with reducing the lump and soreness as well?
 
i developed gynecomastia about 6 months ago and now i have a lump about half the size of a gulf ball under each nipple.. it still aches from time to time.. i was wondering if the product NOLVADEX helps with reducing the lump and soreness as well?

You find that product you let me know lol. It was discontinued because it was spiked.
 
Hi have gyno from from previous cycle. Wasnt to bad just puffy nipples but started to develop hard tissue bumps underneath. Need to get rid asap and should i stop my current cycle of sus at 2ml and just started stan?
 
hello from india
i am new to this site .... i want to start a cutting cycle and have access to test prop, Winny tabs ,anavar tabs and provirounm tabs, armidex, clomid ,hcg i also have axcess to trenebole acetate but i am afraid of its sides... i have done 3-4 cycles previously as well from the fowlloing compounds( test enanthate, equi , deca, anabol) and has been training regularly since last 14 years on/off.
these are my stats:
age:34y
5"7
190 pounds
12-15% b.f.

i would like to drop b.f. to single digit and preserve as much lean mass as possible, any advice on planning cycle would be highly appreciated.
 
I'm on my first cycle of Dbol 30mg/ED and Test E 500mg/EW . Since two weeks I have teribble cough,fever,no energy don't want to eat train or even sleep.I wanted get bigger and feel better on cycle,but feel like shit ,what's the point in loosing my money and health on this stuff .Should I stop ?Take less?Or suffer and hope it will get better not worst?
 
What's up guys? It's my first time using anabolics, I'm on a 8 week winny depot only cycle. I'm taking 0.5ml every day. I'm 3 weeks away from finishing up and also taking N2Guard while on the cycle, planning on taking after too. I need help with the PCT! !What should I take for just winny?! I'm happy with my gains, don't wanna lose it all after I get off
 
Guy's with over 5 years experience preferred. I have been cycling for over 20 years. Have seen alot of shit come and go. Have seen some try some ridiculous things that worked and killed others. Literally. But now after reviewing G's cycle programs I am nothing but more lost. I should say confused. The half-life thing and calculating when a day will be @140mgs or a week @1400mgs is beyond me. I am NOT a math person but have used and suffered sides.
I am 6' 240 10% have competed in state show. 3rd heavy. Way too flat though.
I eat @4k cal. per day 50/30/20
I going with this for "quick bulk" before summer probably 8-10 wks
1k Prop front load then:
1k Prop or Enan/wk
300 Tren Hexy/wk
600 Deca/wk
50mgs D-bol/ day
8iu GH/day
1mg Arimidex
17-34 mgs Cytomel/day

Can anyone help me with the F*ing numbers with this. I need to know how the mgs break down/day or if I'm way off base. The cycle manual was rather vague and didn't offer many options...
 
No matter what kind of cycle I do and for what length it bashes my HDL chol. to basically zero. OTC supps are ON SPOT so is AI dosage and everything else. I've been reading through that stuff for years and tried all kinds of things and nothing worked.

Glad im still alive tho :))
 
Guy's with over 5 years experience preferred. I have been cycling for over 20 years. Have seen alot of shit come and go. Have seen some try some ridiculous things that worked and killed others. Literally. But now after reviewing G's cycle programs I am nothing but more lost. I should say confused. The half-life thing and calculating when a day will be @140mgs or a week @1400mgs is beyond me. I am NOT a math person but have used and suffered sides.
I am 6' 240 10% have competed in state show. 3rd heavy. Way too flat though.
I eat @4k cal. per day 50/30/20
I going with this for "quick bulk" before summer probably 8-10 wks
1k Prop front load then:
1k Prop or Enan/wk
300 Tren Hexy/wk
600 Deca/wk
50mgs D-bol/ day
8iu GH/day
1mg Arimidex
17-34 mgs Cytomel/day

Can anyone help me with the F*ing numbers with this. I need to know how the mgs break down/day or if I'm way off base. The cycle manual was rather vague and didn't offer many options...

So than why use it if it did not explain its self. Anyway no wounder why you come in looking like crap. that much deca and or dbal going into a show? I also see no Ai's and no DHT derivatives anywhere near the end of the cycle or close to show time. I see nothing like Albuterol or fat burners ather.Even the bit of adex is not enough for the massive amounts of deca and tren hell and test too. That cycles not well planed out and you do not need to know a think about clear times to see this...

Who cares when shit clears unless your taking a drug test? or you want to know when to start pct or what days to inject.
 
Hey needtogetass how you be? Well I am new to the thing. I have only taken minstrel(pills) and test(shots) once before. Loved it but really wasn't coached on it well. 7 years later I want to get ripped/ and get cut. Gained some weight after my daughter was born(misses likes me husky lol) I was 180 and am now 210(18%bodybfat) I would like to get back to 180 and cut again. Only thing is, since I moved to lbc the only thing I can get my hands on is this TEST400. what can I do with it??? I am thinking of getting 20 cc's and cycling. Just want to known the right way. Last time I did a cc a week of test(+ one pill of winstrol a day). This was 8 weeks the I was doing 2 cc's a week for the final 6 weeks. I got lean, plus strong as he'll. This time, w/o the wintrol, what can I do with just 20 cc's of test400 to get lean and strong again. Thanks for your help. I hope to start 3/19/12
 
Hey needtogetass how you be? Well I am new to the thing. I have only taken minstrel(pills) and test(shots) once before. Loved it but really wasn't coached on it well. 7 years later I want to get ripped/ and get cut. Gained some weight after my daughter was born(misses likes me husky lol) I was 180 and am now 210(18%bodybfat) I would like to get back to 180 and cut again. Only thing is, since I moved to lbc the only thing I can get my hands on is this TEST400. what can I do with it??? I am thinking of getting 20 cc's and cycling. Just want to known the right way. Last time I did a cc a week of test(+ one pill of winstrol a day). This was 8 weeks the I was doing 2 cc's a week for the final 6 weeks. I got lean, plus strong as he'll. This time, w/o the wintrol, what can I do with just 20 cc's of test400 to get lean and strong again. Thanks for your help. I hope to start 3/19/12

weeks
1-10 Test 400mg every week
1-6 Need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day 30 mins before meals
6-10 Hcgenerate 3 caps am and 2 caps pm
1-10 Aromasine/liquid stan 12.5mg every other day
10-16 Forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
10-14 forged post cycle 2 caps am and pm

Add maybe a fat burner like N2-flam for a couple weeks in there too.
 
Wats up needto, u might have seen the different threads I posted abt the problems I've been facing with the cycle I'm running now. But ur knowledge and opinions would def help me. Anyways,

Stats
23 6'3 225lbs with around 9%bf

Cycle

Weeks 1-16 sus 250 @ 500mg ew
Weeks 1-16 eq 200 @ 600mg ew
Weeks 7-16 masteron @300mg ew
Weeks 10 and on, I'm including winni pills @50 mg ed and increasing as needed.

Pct forma stan, nolva @20mg, chewies, and either bridge or unleashed. Not fully conviced with wat yet and when to start. I need advice here.

Supplements: fish oil-omega 3s- animal pack for joint pain-zinc-calcium-magnesium-vitamins.
Daily basis.

I started arimidex from day one @ .5 eod and then a week 2 increased to .5 ed since I started seeing gyno symptoms.

Week 5 hit and my gyno got bad, so I stopped arimidex and I started letro @ .5 ed. It seems like it stopped it from getting worse but the lumps are still there. So starting week 6 which was 4 days ago, I dropped my sus to approx 400mg ew and eq to 400mg as well. Still taking letro at .5 ed. Gyno is still there. I'm starting masteron in a couple days to start week 7 in hopes that it could help with the estrogen levels as well.

I don't understand why I got gyno, am I that sensitive that even with arimidex from day 1, I still got it!
Could it be the sus? Maybe a diff test like prop is easier?
Or does letro take longer to work? Higher dosages?

I need help figuring this problem out, I can't stand the gyno and don't want it to b permanent.
Any ideas?


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Wats up needto, u might have seen the different threads I posted abt the problems I've been facing with the cycle I'm running now. But ur knowledge and opinions would def help me. Anyways,

Stats
23 6'3 225lbs with around 9%bf

Cycle

Weeks 1-16 sus 250 @ 500mg ew
Weeks 1-16 eq 200 @ 600mg ew
Weeks 7-16 masteron @300mg ew
Weeks 10 and on, I'm including winni pills @50 mg ed and increasing as needed.

Pct forma stan, nolva @20mg, chewies, and either bridge or unleashed. Not fully conviced with wat yet and when to start. I need advice here.

Supplements: fish oil-omega 3s- animal pack for joint pain-zinc-calcium-magnesium-vitamins.
Daily basis.

I started arimidex from day one @ .5 eod and then a week 2 increased to .5 ed since I started seeing gyno symptoms.

Week 5 hit and my gyno got bad, so I stopped arimidex and I started letro @ .5 ed. It seems like it stopped it from getting worse but the lumps are still there. So starting week 6 which was 4 days ago, I dropped my sus to approx 400mg ew and eq to 400mg as well. Still taking letro at .5 ed. Gyno is still there. I'm starting masteron in a couple days to start week 7 in hopes that it could help with the estrogen levels as well.

I don't understand why I got gyno, am I that sensitive that even with arimidex from day 1, I still got it!
Could it be the sus? Maybe a diff test like prop is easier?
Or does letro take longer to work? Higher dosages?

I need help figuring this problem out, I can't stand the gyno and don't want it to b permanent.
Any ideas?


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The estrogen should help but the letro is going to kill gains too. Try some aromasin 12.5mg every day but do not srop the letro till you been no this a week. Add in prami .25mg revery other day to be safe too.
 
The estrogen should help but the letro is going to kill gains too. Try some aromasin 12.5mg every day but do not srop the letro till you been no this a week. Add in prami .25mg revery other day to be safe too.

U mean the masteron should help? Ya Im hoping so. So do u think I should keep the cycle going?

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Hello, I have no interest in bodybuilding. I take low dose test for recovery from mostly endurance but some strength training (that you guys would laugh at). I am a mountain climber-the higher RBC helps as well. My problem is that lately I put on a lot of extra size and weight even from low doses (125-150 test e/week & 175 primo) especially in my neck. My last cycle was 175 test and 10 tbol but I can't take tbol long term and it gave me gastrointestinal issues. Weight is bad for climbing. My diet is pretty clean, when I lower the calories I get lethargic and my weight doesn't budge-I have tried many different approaches to diet from low carb to low fat to balanced to carbohydrate manipulation.

Would Aromasin be a good option? I am afraid of aromatase inhibitors since I do not want to sensitize estrogen receptors and risk a rebound upon cessation. Thanks!
 
Oh, I should also mention that the reason I'm sketched on AI is a couple cycles ago I took low dose letro during the hCG part at the end of my cycle and I got a watery, fatty titty area after I stopped taking it. I ran it about 11 days after the last 1000mg hCG shot.
 
hi , tanks for the great thread lots of great tips and info

iv been traning for a long time (on of 15 years ) and done many cycles but this is the first time iv used HGH

started on 2iu ED then worked my way up form their to 6iu ED by increasing 0.5iu PW , im also running sus 500mg PW and dec 100 mg EOD


iv had great results so far and on now my 4th month

but now i have serious pains in the shoulders and arms , Tris and forearms along with elbow joint pain

i can live with a little pain but the shoulders are out of control to a point that i cant train at times and during the night and day the pain is effecting me adversely

iv stayed on like this now for 3 weeks to see if i could ride it out but its the same

after reading some info on this forum about high dosages and the effects i stopped the HGH for a few days to see if the pain subsided

this worked an by the 4th day the pain had decreased to a manageable piont

i then started the HGH on the 5th day of 3.5iu ( half my normal dose) and immediately that night the pain came right back as strong as ever

, should i stop completely for while ( not my preferd option ) or keep going with the lower dose and see if the pain decreases ?

what is the pain in the shoulders caused from , is it inflammation of the muscle or the joint , is it fluid or just inflammation

what can i do if i wish to stay on the higher dose (6iu) could i do to something to reduce the pain , ie take something else

i tried valtarin 25 mg , this did not help

thanks in advance
 
Wuz up man new to this fourm im 25 180lbs and ran test e 250 for 10 weeks got my labs back can u see if there normal

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first off ...n2ga HATS OFF...just checked this thread has been going on for years some serious advice, im tryin to sift through and get the relavant bits,
im
210lbs, 5'10", 44"chest but waist ballooned to38" from stop start diets, bf at least 20% if not more
back in the day (10yrs) ago toyed with some nandralone (a bit foolish 17yr) and ephedrine

now gonna start a cycle of var 50mg to 80mg daily for couple of weeks to reduce bf to say 18% then move onto trenbolone and clomid cylce ...with further clomid or anastrazole for a few weeks after

what u think?

also my hdl/ldl ratio is pretty bad almost 6 guidance in the uk suggest statin treatment above 5 ...best treatment thinking niacin and some oat bran

reply would be much appreciated ...thanks
 
was also thinkiing of shooting some hydroxycobalamin to increase rbc as endurance is a bit shit at moment, might be a bit anaemic
 
I was taking sustanon 250 for about 3 weeks before i had to stop. It gave me a slight case of gyno. I want to take a cycle of just anavar at 50 mgs a day for 6 weeks do you think this will make my gyno grow?
 
Hi,am in 3rd week of my primo 400mg pr wk and 50 mg anavr pr day cycle..i am taking every supplement for keeping organs healthy like liv52,milk thistle,red yeast rice,hawthorn and policosanol etc..on third wk am experiancing little high bp and a very weird feeling
Of being ill like am going to be crazy or having some heart problem...i have no previous mental record nor
Any other kind of disease...i have done few cycles before which includes test etc.test always make me hyper
And raise my bp so thats why this time i chose these two milder roids.can u tell me why this is happening or
Steroids r not made for me and my genetics sucks?
 
Hi,am in 3rd week of my primo 400mg pr wk and 50 mg anavr pr day cycle..i am taking every supplement for keeping organs healthy like liv52,milk thistle,red yeast rice,hawthorn and policosanol etc..on third wk am experiancing little high bp and a very weird feeling
Of being ill like am going to be crazy or having some heart problem...i have no previous mental record nor
Any other kind of disease...i have done few cycles before which includes test etc.test always make me hyper
And raise my bp so thats why this time i chose these two milder roids.can u tell me why this is happening or
Steroids r not made for me and my genetics sucks?
WHat is going on is a cascade of Nero steroid effects within your brain..hormones that cause and or prevent stress are on the rise or being decreased.. All steroids do this DHT steroids more then others...

Now what you can do is the following.
1. drop all that crap you mentioned and replace all of it and your daily vitamin with N2guard. it replaces all of them products you are on and then some plus a bag of chips... Its designed for steroid users.
2. Find the product bridge take this during the cycle 1 cap 3 times a day. It will help prevent shut down but also the preg in it will give you back some sanity..

Pm me if you need any more help man. Thanks
 
hey guys im an athlete what to take sumthing but not sure what wanted to ask u guys so i dont waste my time and actualy see results, my current options would be winni tabs, or anavar or oral turinabol, or a sublingual halotestin tab, because they are out of ur system quick and i will b tested i know halotestin takes a while to get out of ur system and is harsh on the liver but because its sublingual is the detection time shorter? if i took any of these orals by themselves would i get any results or is it just a waste of time unless u stack it with sumthing please help any ifo would b great much love
 
hey guys im an athlete what to take sumthing but not sure what wanted to ask u guys so i dont waste my time and actualy see results, my current options would be winni tabs, or anavar or oral turinabol, or a sublingual halotestin tab, because they are out of ur system quick and i will b tested i know halotestin takes a while to get out of ur system and is harsh on the liver but because its sublingual is the detection time shorter? if i took any of these orals by themselves would i get any results or is it just a waste of time unless u stack it with sumthing please help any ifo would b great much love

If you are worried about testing have you looked into any of the sarms like S4 and others?
 
Post injection redness, but not around the injection site?

Injected delt, upper bicep and tricep red, and sore and warm to touch?
 
i was already confuse between ephedra and Clen now my supplement guy is confusing me more with winstrol.he's like start a stack with winstrol ie
1.winstrol
2.glutamin
3.tribulus
4.preworkout without creatine monohydrate????do tell me some preworkout with it
 
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Posted before about sarms and osta use, to include clen, hcgenerate and penal t.....what on earth would cause the lab to come back with my results sent in from a trt doctor which states, unable to read due to other substance detected! No total or free test results given cause of this? My doc never heard of such, neither have I....help????
 
I am a hysterectomized woman..so I am on testosterone naturally compounded sublingually taken 5mg daily, and I am on Armour thyroid for hypo. I had bloodwork done. perfect cholesterol, perfect glucose, estrogen and testosterone levels..I am a nutritionist/natural bio-identical hormone clinician. I have vials of Sermorelin, used it for 2 months no results..I did lose 75lbs a decade ago, I have small upper and bigger lower portion with skin. I eat so clean, I have Celiac (gluten, MSG, lactose free) I cannot work out hard with a trainer 5 days a week and eat protein, protein, protein, carbs are hard to eat with Celiac, usually a potato or rice at lunch. I just cannot lose and even did 2 cycles of HCG protocol for weight loss and gain 10lbs right back after maintenance in mid section and thighs. wtf. I won't do skin surgery I want to tighten up my legs and lose the meno"pot" I never had. So I have access to test. cyp., HCG, sermorelin..adderall.I am 47 yrs old, 5ft 3 128lbs and the same 10lbs comes and goes...but after 3 months of training with a trainer...I got NO RESULTS...he is a pro and I am dumbfounded and NOT A quitter. Totally disappointed with myself...
 
Post injection redness, but not around the injection site?

Injected delt, upper bicep and tricep red, and sore and warm to touch?

Sounds like a sterile abscess to me my friend. If you your self have a temp as well then its a infected abscess but if not then its sterile and will go away on its on within a couple of weeks.
 
i was already confuse between ephedra and Clen now my supplement guy is confusing me more with winstrol.he's like start a stack with winstrol ie
1.winstrol
2.glutamin
3.tribulus
4.preworkout without creatine monohydrate????do tell me some preworkout with it

Your source does not give a crap about you my friend. You are a dollar sign to him and the advice he is giving you proves that. Or he is just really dumb. Ether way do not take his advice and learn more on your own by reading threads on this site. Send me a pm to if you like.
 
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