talked to a novice competitor today

[OMEGA]

talked to a young guy today ripped and very aesthetic

he revealed to me when he competes that he no longer does wierd cycles with variuos compounds

he just does HUMAN GRADE testosterone, and take the corresponded anti E components with it

his cycle are not at all high dose.........

he leaves the rest up to cardio, and proper supplements

like for cutting he will take green te caps and other themogenic compounds


and if bulking

he ups creatine and other mass aids

the fact that he layed it down so simply was eye opening

he also noted that coming off testosterone was the EASIEST way to recover

unlike Deca and fancier compounds


food for thought

he was off and looked very good btw

 

[Mike P.T.]

Nice to be back and see people that still recommend moderate cycle ideas. I agree with this but unfortunately far too many people rely on drugs to do alot of their work and if they don't get the results they want then they do more. Even though I never did really high dose cycles I too fell into the lazy game of letting my pretty good genetics and the drugs do enough of the work for me and not really eating the way I should be eating for maximum results. Having said that it's good to hear that this novice competitor looks good not taking too much. He might not be telling the truth though, but if he is than it's good that he is that way. Just goes to show you what patience, hard work and good genetics(can't forget that) can do.

 

[OMEGA]

no I have hung with him before

he competes in Muscle Mania every year and is a PT trainer

makes$$

he is an honest guy, and simple


when he gets ready for a show he is on the revolving stair case 1hour and 45 minuted a day

this guy IS the real deal

 

[OMEGA]

the part about being easiest to recover form I found fascinating

 

[Themachine01]

the part about being easiest to recover form I found fascinating

The recovery part has alot to do with the indivisual, I have never experienced a bad crash, or different, from deca. Holy shit that is a shit load of cardio, I dont think I have the patience for that much cardio.

 

[RADAR]

Yup! I agree with him, I can make great gains off of a moderate dose of Dbol(15mgs) If i set my mind to it and go bezerk in the gym.


RADAR

 

[Boston Strangler]

the best thing about not relying on drugs and using moderate cycles is you are more able to keep your gains and continue to add to your physique instead of add a lot, lose some and start all over.....

 

[OMEGA]

 

[gator_mclusky]

Strange i see this post. Ive been considering a Test only cycle to see how it will compare to my "juice cocktails" I usually take.

Now im really leaning towards it. Its gonna be tough not to add soem EQ and Fina though.

Gator

 

[OMEGA]

yeah I was thinking that with winnie, and fina there is a hardness that comes

but maybe with supps this could be mimicked

creatine, no2 etc......

 

[sweed]

hey, whats the competitors height and weight? and around what weight did he start out at, before AS? just want to know. thanks

 

[OMEGA]

he is 5'7"

I don;t knwo how heavy he was but he was more a flex wheeler type, very aesthetic, and tight

his abs literally looked like a brick wall


all quality

 

[Texas Ranger]

talked to a young guy today ripped and very aesthetic

he revealed to me when he competes that he no longer does wierd cycles with variuos compounds

he just does HUMAN GRADE testosterone, and take the corresponded anti E components with it

his cycle are not at all high dose.........

he leaves the rest up to cardio, and proper supplements

like for cutting he will take green te caps and other themogenic compounds


and if bulking

he ups creatine and other mass aids

the fact that he layed it down so simply was eye opening

he also noted that coming off testosterone was the EASIEST way to recover

unlike Deca and fancier compounds


food for thought

he was off and looked very good btw

I can believe it. ALOT of people are suprised at what a moderate dose of Test Enanthate can do. That along with a good diet and above average genetics can go VERY far. Jenetic gave me the EXACT advice and that brother knows his S**T!!

 

[OMEGA]

the concept just seems mentally more relaxing as well

 

[Dial_tone]

I thought Muscle Mania was for natties?

 

[carlsky]

Yea, test is definetly the king of all gear. Hell, 250 mg./week will boost your protein synthesis by 50 times and dramatically improve energy and recovery. Enanthate is my personal favorite because you don't get that much water weight with it compared to cyp.

 

[psychedout]

50 times LOL. I'd like to see any piece of literature that suggests anything near this for such a dose. I really would.

 

[poantrex]

50 times LOL. I'd like to see any piece of literature that suggests anything near this for such a dose. I really would.

Maybe he was talking about females LOL

I wonder what kind of effect 250mg of test would have on clitoral size..hmm...

 

[psychedout]

I wonder what kind of effect 250mg of test would have on clitoral size..hmm...

LOLOL.

 

[OMEGA]

I thought Muscle Mania was for natties?

um yeah

 

[BigAndy69]

Sorry but I don't buy it.

I think it's very individual. I don't do well on Testosterone or Eq.

I gain very well on Nandrolone and my recovery has always been easy.

We don't really have that many drugs to chose from, why not experiment:

 

[Mike P.T.]

Sorry but I don't buy it.

I think it's very individual. I don't do well on Testosterone or Eq.

I gain very well on Nandrolone and my recovery has always been easy.

We don't really have that many drugs to chose from, why not experiment:

I agree to this as well as even one of my closest friends doesn't gain shit off of test and he took up to a gram of the real shit. He too gains well off of deca and also fina. It definately is an individual thing but I think the point more so here was that you don't have to do a ton of juice or mix up so many different amounts of drugs all at once to achieve a good physique.

 

[Lowest]

That's my stance too bigandy. I've never seen jack from deca. Test I get great results, but only from higher doses, 750/week or more, 500 doesn't do much at all. EQ I also need higher doses for good results, but I get better results from 30mg/day of winny than 50mg/day of dbol. So I concur, it's very individual. I've never had a problem recovering, even from tren/deca without test. It's great that this guy looks good with moderate cycles and just test, but not everyone is like that. As long as you're not using gear to make up for a bad diet or crappy training, I say do what works and don't feel bad b/c BBF uses 1/3 the gear you do