Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Okay so I just started lifting couple months, but I want to go right into test. I know its not advisible, but I am doing it. Taking test e will give me give me a solid base quickly. Then on my 2nd cycle, will be the next step. I dont get why so many people tell you to havea solid base before doing test. Test can give me that in 3 months...why wait 1 year+ to get what i can get in 3 months
Taking test e with no base (beginner)
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RADAR
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Because with no foundation ,you'll startwith nothing and you'll end with nothing, gotta pay your dues before you can reap benefits, People like you give steroids a bad name!
Aren't you the guy who put up pics and was like 115 with a beer gut and looked sick?
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Vinchezo79
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^^^ that's him man. I guess his health is not a big issue to him. He has another thread down a couple too about Test E. For the OP, bro get your self checked out. Your not gonna look like The Terminator after 1Test E cycle. Ever see the guys in the gym that blow up for 3 months then you see them again and there skinnier than they started? Oh no, I don't think you've been to a gym before from your original post. Honestly, get a base, get your health checked out then maybe start a cycle. No matter what anybody says on here your gonna do it anyway. You'll notice your body getting bigger, an your gut too. An possibly your health going to shit! After the cycle is over, you'll notice all your gains are gone! And why you ask yourself?? Damn I should have listened to all the guys on EF. Listen to these guys, they've been sweating in the gym longer than you've been breathing. Don't touch the stuff!!! Be smart, we're not being dicks here, we're trying to help you out.
RADAR
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Whats worse than bitch tits? looking Pregnant with Bitch tits!
I started drinking 2 gallons of water a day and did the olive oil + salt liver detox, and HEAVILy reduced how much salt I have always used. It worked! Dont know how...maybe the salt + whatever was going on with liver caused it.
Here a pic of me now
http://i.imgur.com/vTBG4.jpg
^^^ dude there is still somthing wrong there.. IMO its good that it is looking better but you still definately have either a blockage or growth in your stomach.
the detox helped which is great, but as you continue eating if you have a blockage it will just come back again. its like filling a pool that has a leak.. you can keep filling it but the leak isn't gonna get fixed
the detox helped which is great, but as you continue eating if you have a blockage it will just come back again. its like filling a pool that has a leak.. you can keep filling it but the leak isn't gonna get fixed
Did you compare the old pic to now, it s a huge difference, and thats only from a week of heavy water drinking. I bet it will be even better by a month. The only thing left now is fat from being skinny fat. God, I just looked at my old pic, its even worse than i remember I looked pregnant...
It looks better but dont think about a cycle until you have zero gut left and you have some muscle mass which you currently have zero of. You have the body of a pregnant 13 year old girl...sorry to be blunt. If you really have your diet and training down, you could probably add 20 lbs muscle in a year naturally. Do that and then come back to this idea
RADAR
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Its Better, but you still need to be checked out,That Budge is not normal,Not sure why you're putting it off, Steroids Will not decrease the size if it, actually they may aggrivate it,Don't you want your body perfect before doing a cycle? Then get with the program,you have a problem,Have it seen about.
The last time we had an admittance to the hospital with something very similar to that was the appendix was wrapped around the intestine, if you get appendicitis the Drs will be cutting you all over trying to find it, and before they do you could very likely go into septic Shock (this is when the organs start failing because the body is being poisoned ) the results are highly Fatal.
The last time we had an admittance to the hospital with something very similar to that was the appendix was wrapped around the intestine, if you get appendicitis the Drs will be cutting you all over trying to find it, and before they do you could very likely go into septic Shock (this is when the organs start failing because the body is being poisoned ) the results are highly Fatal.
yup that is very possible too. and if thats the case the docs are gonna ask him if he is on anything and if he doesn't tell them the truth they will go in and who knows what kinds of complications he will have being on steroids..
i won't even get a tooth removed if I am on juice because I know there will be clotting issues possibly (not saying I would die from it but I'm not in the mood to have a bloody mouth all day or risk dry socket), much less getting my stomach opened up (which yes can result in death and major complications)
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Laxfiend
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Hey bro. Even if the gut was better, you have no base. You are freaking tiny and steroids will not help you. You are diving into some really deep water that you are not ready for. Why not try a good test booster or killer supps? Thats what I do instead. It satisfies that hunger trust me. Run some hcgenerate and unleashed. You will feel great and get great gains.
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You have no business messing with steroids bro. You come here wanting advice so we are giving it to you. Given your current state and condition you need to stay away from them and take care of your other issues
kid, seriously I am out of patience. This is the last time I will tell you to stay away from steroids. You made an account with the intent on getting advice from people who know better, and when it wasnt what you wanted to hear you threw it back in our faces like a spoiled toddlet throwing a fit.
I see your behavior as disrespectful, as the guys in your threads are some of the most intelligent minds I have had the privilege to share thoughts with regarding fitness, and you are treating them like they are just taking shots in the dark.
Are you fucking kidding me? Fire your shitty trainer who suggested AAS, get yourself a good beginner's lifting program which is fucking FREE on this website, start eating everything you see (that is healthy) and SWEAT YOUR ASS OFF EVERY FUCKING DAY.
This is not some majic fucking potion, and you WILL fuck yourself up PERMANENTLY if you use AAS right now.
I'm done. Tired of blowing hot air, since that's all it is to you.
There are people who sacrifice time away from their carreer and families and free time trying to help your stubborn ass, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I see your behavior as disrespectful, as the guys in your threads are some of the most intelligent minds I have had the privilege to share thoughts with regarding fitness, and you are treating them like they are just taking shots in the dark.
Are you fucking kidding me? Fire your shitty trainer who suggested AAS, get yourself a good beginner's lifting program which is fucking FREE on this website, start eating everything you see (that is healthy) and SWEAT YOUR ASS OFF EVERY FUCKING DAY.
This is not some majic fucking potion, and you WILL fuck yourself up PERMANENTLY if you use AAS right now.
I'm done. Tired of blowing hot air, since that's all it is to you.
There are people who sacrifice time away from their carreer and families and free time trying to help your stubborn ass, you should be ashamed of yourself.
very well said... this is some of the most ridiculous shit i have ever read... why do you need a base? seriously?? you have no clue what your talking about or doing and you start your initial post off with an attitude like that... i care so much about everyone on here and their well-being, but coming off as disrespectful as you have, it's just ridiculous... your one that's going to have learn the hard way and my friend, you will...
For one reason your ligaments and tendons do not grow on juice like the rest of your muscles. This means your muscles will be able to lift a lot more weight by your tendons and ligaments will still be weak and you're going to hurt yourself. You don't want to try to bench 250lbs if your shoulders can only lift 100. It's injury waiting to happen.
MrSinister
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I'd dump the test for a first cycle and go Deca solo. Around 800 a week. Then PCT with Nolva. That should produce the effect that most of us here would like to see.
training700
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Haha can you imagine what he would like after a deca only cycle..
Listen to everyone, you are not even close to needing steroids.
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MattJS
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Go see a doctor man, today or tomorrow, but no later than that. Show this doctor your abdomen. Steroids are for elite athletes, you do not meet this description and until you do, they will do nothing but give you tits a limp dick and some deep seated physical and emotional issues... Steroids are the very last step on a long, long journey... You haven't even taken your first step yet, listen to the others, look at stevesmi's diet and training info.... Take the first step... once you've sorted out your medical issue.
Mike4705
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If you don't have a base then you more than likely do have experience with a solid diet and training routine, if you can't put on significant muscle without steroids you can do it with them. They're not miracle drugs. Take it from me, I was in a spot just like you, I started a cycle with no base saw some gains, when I came off they all disappeared as I had no clue about proper diet, I was not able to maintain my new body. Long story short I put my body trough hell multiple time hoping it would turn me into a fitness model, at the end of the day I looked the same as when I started. Then I decided to stop being a dumbass and do it the right way.
maccy
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Wtf don't tell him that
How do you know there is something wrong with me? Maybe its just fat, when I grab it it feels like fat to me
^This is exactly what you should be doing for the next couple years
raze
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How do you know there isn't something wrong? It looks abnormal (yes better but still not right yet) and that should be enough to get it checked. Man it takes a lot of time just learning to eat and train properly..... Your wasting time looking at steroids. You should be busy in the gym, kitchen and getting enough rest. If you actually gave it a shot maybe you would realise that their are some awesome gains to be made easily at the start and chug along from there trying to improve your training and diet. By the time you have got that even 80% down pat you will be surprised how far you have come.
yeah but that would require time, sweat, pain, and having to eat and food shop... something these young guys aren't willing to do. some young dude at the gym couldn't beleive how much weight i was doing on the decline bench and I told him exactly my workout routines (70 minutes a day 5-6X per week) and my diet and he nodded and walked away. never saw the dude again.. he was one of those guys who comes to the gym once a month. they want to believe in fairy tales and that steroids are magic potions.
I looked at your routine in the sig. I go to the gym 3x a week, im not lazy by any means. I like your routine, I need help on my calories though. im 5 10, 170 lbs. At my job I have to power walk for 8 hours straight. How much calories on my work days should i take in to put me 1000 over maintenance?
^^^ what kind of job do you have?
this is gonna be a major problem for you if you are gonna build muscle I won't lie.. doesn't mean you can't do it and atleast make some progress.
just follow my bulker to a tee.. counting calories you just don't even have to worry about right now.. if you eat every 2 hours and eat big then you will get big. pizza, mcdonalds and all that other shit isn't muscle building food.. the foods i have listed in that link are. and at the gym you need to lift big to get big..
you are lying to my face if you claim you workout hard, your pics are of someone who never touched a weight in their life.
come with me to workout sometime and you won't be able to walk out of the gym, and the next day you won't be able to move. i promise you. your workouts should be intense, the object is to rip up the muscle fibers.. frankly with your experience if you aren't sore with the particular muscle group you are working then you aren't working out hard enough. hence another reason its pointless to use steroids, you will be sore all the time and getting your muscles conditioned your entire crappy cycle.. its like running a 5K and not training for it. the first half mile you will be out of gas and start walking while everyone else is blowing past you..
this is gonna be a major problem for you if you are gonna build muscle I won't lie.. doesn't mean you can't do it and atleast make some progress.
just follow my bulker to a tee.. counting calories you just don't even have to worry about right now.. if you eat every 2 hours and eat big then you will get big. pizza, mcdonalds and all that other shit isn't muscle building food.. the foods i have listed in that link are. and at the gym you need to lift big to get big..
you are lying to my face if you claim you workout hard, your pics are of someone who never touched a weight in their life.
come with me to workout sometime and you won't be able to walk out of the gym, and the next day you won't be able to move. i promise you. your workouts should be intense, the object is to rip up the muscle fibers.. frankly with your experience if you aren't sore with the particular muscle group you are working then you aren't working out hard enough. hence another reason its pointless to use steroids, you will be sore all the time and getting your muscles conditioned your entire crappy cycle.. its like running a 5K and not training for it. the first half mile you will be out of gas and start walking while everyone else is blowing past you..
we already discussed this and I've told you that you are covered by law until you are 26 under your parents insurance.
and also even if they don't have insurance there are free clinics and you should be able to get on medicaid since you said you are poor depending on what state you live in. and even then just get treatment and don't pay the bill. most of the time the hospital will just chalk it up as a charitable contribution and not even bother to bill you if you just tell them upfront you are poor.
but you make no sense because you can afford test/tren and all the ancillaries you need on them, but you cannot afford to see a doc. cycling costs thousands too. add up everything involved.
Tiny? I am not huge I know but I dont think I am tiny. Here a pic flexing
http://i.imgur.com/DfnK3.jpg
1 test cycle costs me less than $200. medicare wont take me because I make a good amount of money at my job ($600 a week). So thats not possible, and my parent dont have insurance. Where do I even go? I dont see the point of going to a hospital because they wont know what to do and just bill me thousands and just tell me to go to a doctor who specializes in what i need after.
What do I do?
RacaTwister
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Dude, you are tiny. You may not see it if you hang out with friends as skinny as you but you are 1/4 the size of a MAN ready for his first cycle of steroids. Get off the fucking computer and get in the fucking gym.
Please post your workout regime, exercises, weight, reps, sets etc and we might be able to give you some tips that will actually help you.
RacaTwister
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I see why it's a problem for you but we're talking about your health here. How can you put a price on that. Regardless of working out, I'd recommend you getting that checked out somehow. But even if you're fine and it's just fat, that wouldn't make you more eligable for steroids as carrying around fat increases the risks of sides. I personally feel it's better to be just skinny than skinny with manboobs. (which is where you'll probably end up given you don't seem to know shit about gear)
what state do you live in?
many states have free clinics and county hospitals you can go to.. yeah there will be a wait and the docs there may not be the best but what can you do
indiana, and no there arent free clinics here I already checked. The only way to get free health care here is if you are a lazy ass with no job and 6 kids the gov pays for. Fair system we have going on in this country...
Is there a specific name for the kind of doc i need so I can go directly to one?
^^^ I just googled and Indiana has 143 free/low cost clinics.
NeedyMeds Free Clinics List by State
I am contemplating going ahead and banning you from the site, the more you post the more I get the feeling you are a troll. and you are wasting my precious time on here.
you are a 23 year old MAN, you aren't a kid.. yet you want everyone on here to google things for you.. do you want me to fly up to indiana too and hold your hand and take you to the doctor as well and me pay for it too? tell me you do and I will go up there this weekend seriously.
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I am contemplating going ahead and banning you from the site, the more you post the more I get the feeling you are a troll. and you are wasting my precious time on here.
you are a 23 year old MAN, you aren't a kid.. yet you want everyone on here to google things for you.. do you want me to fly up to indiana too and hold your hand and take you to the doctor as well and me pay for it too? tell me you do and I will go up there this weekend seriously.
MrSinister
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Your probably right, I'm just getting tired of these type people posting stupidity, knowing they are going to get flamed. I shouldn't have to waste brain cells reading something so dumb. Sometimes I think natural selection should be allowed to take its course.
training700
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Your probably right, I'm just getting tired of these type people posting stupidity, knowing they are going to get flamed. I shouldn't have to waste brain cells reading something so dumb. Sometimes I think natural selection should be allowed to take its course.[/QUOTE]
LMFAO hahah for real.
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Texas Monster
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This is the definition of a sporty spice.
Kid my little sister has more muscle mass than you and she has no testicles. Think about it. You are not only small but you are a coward because you are unwilling to put in the time and effort that it takes to build muscle. You are scared of hard work and becoming a man. Grow the fuck up and put in the hard work to become a man. It is not going to be handed to you by steroids.
Kid my little sister has more muscle mass than you and she has no testicles. Think about it. You are not only small but you are a coward because you are unwilling to put in the time and effort that it takes to build muscle. You are scared of hard work and becoming a man. Grow the fuck up and put in the hard work to become a man. It is not going to be handed to you by steroids.
RacaTwister
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And he should be damn glad that ppl do. Cuz he needs it and most people here know what they are talking about. I for one couldn't care less about this kid anymore as he has recieved more than all info he needs to know and still disregards it so I say to hell with political correctness, shoot 1g/w Tren and Deca and you will have your dream body in no-time, right?? And be sure to keep us posted on your progress.
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