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Taking steroids before you reach your genetic limit

thanks for your input though karachi. I do encourage anyone who sees holes in my logic to speak up. I'll make any edits where necessary.
 
Why should one wait until they've reached their genetic potential


by Zen42


For some it’s about pride and paying dues. Many have shed sweat and blood, persevered through injury and personal sacrifice to build a physique few people will ever achieve. It’s disconcerting to see a newbie walk, take a few pills and then believe they are on the same level. Hard core lifting is more than just knowing and taking the right pharmacology.

For most of us it’s a genuine concern for the newbie. It takes more than gear to get exceptional results.

Before starting you should know your goals...are you looking to increase your strength, improve your looks, become famous, help your career, improve health, improve your self-esteem, get big, get approval or for protection (physical or mental)? The answer to that question determines the paths that are appropriate for you.

Every BODY is different. Do you know how your body acts and reacts? How many calories does it take for you to maintain? What food and feeding schedule can you tolerate? How much water do you need to drink? How much sleep do you need and how much good sleep can you get? What parts of your body respond to higher reps? What parts respond better to lower reps? How many sets give you the best results? What split works best? How many rest days do you need? What medical conditions do you have to adjust for? What exercises work for you and which ones don't? Do you know how to treat your injuries? Do you know how tell if you’re injuring yourself?

Then there are the things that only time and experience can give you: The skill of using dedication and determination to achieve long term goals. The knowledge that you can push yourself past limits, some you didn't even know you had. The experience and knowledge on how to use the equipment properly. The strength to adhere to STRICT form during your lifts. The strength to not give into ego and risk hurting yourself. The strength to adhere to a training program. The knowledge to know when its time to back off and the knowledge to know when to press on. The strength to acknowledge your weaknesses and the wisdom to adjust for them. The knowledge and respect of the dangers of impatience. Additionally, time in the gym gives your bones, tendons and ligaments a chance to strengthen in order to handle the loads additional muscle will require.

By taking the time to learn what your body requires to grow, learning your limitations and strengths, identifying your true goals and developing the skills in the weight room you give yourself the best chance to use steroids successfully.

If you don't do this prep work you put yourself at risk. By not knowing your body, it'll take you longer to realize you need to adjust your dosages. Failing to eat, drink and rest properly will limit your gains. A lack of dedication and determination will waste your effort. An ill prepared body is more prone to soft tissue damage. An ill-informed user is far more likely to use steroids that are wrong for the wanted goal. A person with a weak ego will put themselves at greater risk in and out of the weight room. An inexperienced lifter will be slower to recognize the positive and negative effects of their steroids and not know how to make the appropriate adjustments. An ill-informed lifter will waste a ton of money and possibly a portion of their health.

Steroids offer benefits and risks. Surprisingly little is truly known about how they really work, their interactions and their long-term effects. If a 'newbie' takes the time to develop their base and their knowledge they have a high chance of successfully using steroids to achieve their goals. If they take this time they will be able to take pride in knowing that it really was them that achieved their goals, not what was in the pill or in the syringe.

One thing is certain…you know less than you think you know. (That’s true for all of us.)
 
cyrex said:
I do agree, but there are some TRUE Alfreds out there.

I also think that Brutus gets to the point when he is older and producing less natural test that steroids will give him better than 50% gains.

At what age do a man's test levels show a significant drop, and what would you consider "older"? Do you mean a man over 40, or just any guy who's in their late 20's and up?
 
the-short-one said:
At what age do a man's test levels show a significant drop, and what would you consider "older"? Do you mean a man over 40, or just any guy who's in their late 20's and up?

no numbers

only way to check that is for an individual to get blood tests
 
This is a horrible title ... this isn't about reaching a genetic potential. It's about getting experienced and smart. Absolutely nothing in here adresses genetic potential....

swordfish151 said:
Why should one wait until they've reached their genetic potential


by Zen42


For some it’s about pride and paying dues. Many have shed sweat and blood, persevered through injury and personal sacrifice to build a physique few people will ever achieve. It’s disconcerting to see a newbie walk, take a few pills and then believe they are on the same level. Hard core lifting is more than just knowing and taking the right pharmacology.

For most of us it’s a genuine concern for the newbie. It takes more than gear to get exceptional results.

Before starting you should know your goals...are you looking to increase your strength, improve your looks, become famous, help your career, improve health, improve your self-esteem, get big, get approval or for protection (physical or mental)? The answer to that question determines the paths that are appropriate for you.

Every BODY is different. Do you know how your body acts and reacts? How many calories does it take for you to maintain? What food and feeding schedule can you tolerate? How much water do you need to drink? How much sleep do you need and how much good sleep can you get? What parts of your body respond to higher reps? What parts respond better to lower reps? How many sets give you the best results? What split works best? How many rest days do you need? What medical conditions do you have to adjust for? What exercises work for you and which ones don't? Do you know how to treat your injuries? Do you know how tell if you’re injuring yourself?

Then there are the things that only time and experience can give you: The skill of using dedication and determination to achieve long term goals. The knowledge that you can push yourself past limits, some you didn't even know you had. The experience and knowledge on how to use the equipment properly. The strength to adhere to STRICT form during your lifts. The strength to not give into ego and risk hurting yourself. The strength to adhere to a training program. The knowledge to know when its time to back off and the knowledge to know when to press on. The strength to acknowledge your weaknesses and the wisdom to adjust for them. The knowledge and respect of the dangers of impatience. Additionally, time in the gym gives your bones, tendons and ligaments a chance to strengthen in order to handle the loads additional muscle will require.

By taking the time to learn what your body requires to grow, learning your limitations and strengths, identifying your true goals and developing the skills in the weight room you give yourself the best chance to use steroids successfully.

If you don't do this prep work you put yourself at risk. By not knowing your body, it'll take you longer to realize you need to adjust your dosages. Failing to eat, drink and rest properly will limit your gains. A lack of dedication and determination will waste your effort. An ill prepared body is more prone to soft tissue damage. An ill-informed user is far more likely to use steroids that are wrong for the wanted goal. A person with a weak ego will put themselves at greater risk in and out of the weight room. An inexperienced lifter will be slower to recognize the positive and negative effects of their steroids and not know how to make the appropriate adjustments. An ill-informed lifter will waste a ton of money and possibly a portion of their health.

Steroids offer benefits and risks. Surprisingly little is truly known about how they really work, their interactions and their long-term effects. If a 'newbie' takes the time to develop their base and their knowledge they have a high chance of successfully using steroids to achieve their goals. If they take this time they will be able to take pride in knowing that it really was them that achieved their goals, not what was in the pill or in the syringe.

One thing is certain…you know less than you think you know. (That’s true for all of us.)
 
i was satisfied when i did my first cycle at 22.... my avi was taken after my first cycel.. and i am still satisfied.. althought im still young and got oodles of time to grow more
 
interesting views, i believe you should at least have a verry solid foundation before considering steroids, its jus sickining to hear when a guy wants bigger biceps and never did a squat in his life but wants to use gear. im 34yrs old and never used till i was 33, but thinking back to when i was in my prime all natural in my twenties i wonder what i would of been......hmmmmm
 
cyrex said:
I've been thinking about this for a while now. Why would someone want to wait until they reach their genetic limit to take steroids. Let's face it, we have a limited amount of time on this earth and the sooner we can get big and strong the more BB competitions, strongment competitions, powerlifting competitions, hot chicks to fuck, etc there will be..............................................................................Wait until you are over 25 years old and have 4 years of hard training and diet under your belt. That, in my opinion, is simply a waste of 4 years for someone who is dedicated and wants optimum results as soon as possible.
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Good post brah. If training, diet, knowledge of AAS and how to safely us them were not an issue, I would agree 100% with this.
 
Ive seen many young guys start steroids before they have even a year of hard training naturally. These people usually end up only lifting consistently when they are on. They find the work:reward ratio way too low when they are natural and so their motivation lacks. They havent built up the experience of lifting naturally, and are not accustomed to the condition. When they go back 'on" again they hit the gym with more vigor, but as soon as its time to go off you dont see them in the gym again for months. Their physique never really advances much because they loose most of their gains when natural since they dont lift consistently. Eventually they stop bodybuilding altogether, years down the road.
 
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